Gilbert/Wilson families

Here’s a link that explains a little about ancient freemen of Dublin. That changed in 1876, so Wiliam Gilbert got his award under newer rules.  However there is a contact e-mail at the bottom of the link for Dublin City Archives. You can e-mail them for any details they may have.

http://databases.dublincity.ie/freemen/about.php

I can’t speak specifically for Dublin’s Freemen but in general the freedom of the city is an award to someone who the city wishes to honour because of something they have done. In practical terms there are few actual benefits these days. Possibly being allowed to sell fish on a Wednesday, within the city boundaries, without a licence. That sort of thing, but that’s probably about it.

When was Thomas Wilson born? I see a marriage registered in Lowtherstown (Irvinestown) on 28.8.1846 to Mary Anne Breen (not Brien). I wonder if that could be his first marriage?

Hi Julia, Kaye here from Dublin.Please find below information you may find useful.

William Gilbert b.1st June 1862 at Arbour Hill, Military Barrecks.Dad Thomas Bruce, Mam Mary ? living at 10 Prussia St,Dublin.

William married Margaret Jane Wilson on the 6th April 1887 at the C.O.I Monkstown Parish,Co Dublin.

Thomas.b. 3/2/1888.

Ethel,b.29/7/1889.

Adah.b.7/11/1890.

Florence.b.23/12/1892.

William Alex,b.1886

Adah remained in Dublin and was living with her Aunt and Uncle William Henry Jones and Mary Florence as well as her Cousin Dorothy Gweneth Jones.In the 1911 Census.

Regards,

Kaye Sullivan-Healy 

Elwyn and Kaye,

Thank you both so much! It is so kind of you to take the time to help strangers like this! I think this is the correct Gilbert family Kaye as I have Thomas Bruce (my Grandpa's Grandpa) ---Thomas Bruce Gilbert and Mary Moore Married May 9 1860 St. Catherine Dublin Ireland. I believe it was through this Mary Moore's Dad Godfrey the the Freeman of Dublin comes from. I have an interesting letter written to Tom from a Grand Uncle Willie ( not sure if this is what my Grandpa was calling him. If so that would make him this Tom's brother). The letter is written from New York City dated Aug 27 1879.                                                    

Elwyn,  I have no re info about the Wilson's except for Margaret Jane's birth and death Margaret Jane Wilson maybe b Feb 11 1865 Fermanagh Ireland d May 3 1930 buried in Deans Grange cemetary post town monks town co Dublin.                                 Thank you both so much for your help!     Julia

Also, Ethel, Adah, Florence, Tom and William Alex (my Grandpa and his siblings) all eventually left Ireland for Canada. My Dad was the only child to come from this family.   Julia

The Margaret Wilson born 11.2.1865 had a father named Thomas Wilson and a mother named Margaret Jane Livingston. Thomas was a farmer in Mullynock. I think this is that family in 1901:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Fermanagh/Ballyreagh/Mullyknock_or_Copped_Mt_/1352782/

Hi again,

Elwyn I think the birth date I gave you must have been wrong. I can find my grandfather's family in the 1901 census living in Kingstown he is 5 and is William Alexander Gilbert. When I look at that his mom, Margaret Jane (Wilson) Gilbert must have been born in Feb of 1862 not 1865 as I said earlier. I believe this family was Church of Ireland. I think they attended St Michaels (the church that is now the Mariner's Museum) when my Grandpa was a boy anyway. I'm not sure where his parent's attended church with their parents. I assume she went to church in Enniskillen maybe the Dad too.... Thanks for all of your help! Julia