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| Date of Birth | 1st Jan 1831 | |
| Date of Death | 1st Jan 1877 | |
I'd sure like to know more about this James Tobin:) dates seem to fit, as does area. I'm wondering if he had a brother named Michael,who also came to New York area sometime after 1840. Michael had a son named James Buchanan Tobin born in 1862. As a boy he lived on upper east side in NY ca 90th st and ist Avenue. Any help would be much appreciated.
This James Tobin had a brother Patrick and another named Edward, whom we believe he lost contact with. In 1859 he put an ad in the Boston Pilot seeking information about Edward:
OF EDWARD TOBIN a native of Newtown, parish of Ardmore or Grange (co. Waterford), who left Martinsburg, Virginia, in 1855, when last heard of he was in Gravesend, Long Island, New York, and is supposed to have gone West. - Any information will be thankfully received by his brother, James, corner 2nd street and Virginia Ave, Washington city, D.C.
A brother Michael was never mentioned, at least so far. After arrival in the US, he met and married Mary Russell, an Irish lass, and spent his life in Washington DC (Patrick did also).
Tobinkin - I just realized you probably already read what I just responded in my old post from a couple of years ago. Old news. Are you the same tobinkin who left that comment in 2018? That comment was from Frank T. He wrote:
My Michael Tobin came to US, lived in NYC area and had at least one son James Buchanan Tobin born ca 1862.
He also had an Uncle Edmund or Edward who fought in the Civil War, and later moved in with kin on Long Island
I am just catching up. The really interesting bit is the Uncle Edmond which ties in with the search ad that James put in the Boston Newspaper, although he calls him Edward. Also mentioned in the reponses to my original query were baptismal records for a Tobin family that did have a Michael. I lost focus after that and did not pursue it any further until today.
Yes, I am the same Tobinkin that posted about Michael Tobin's family in New York.
There is an Edmond, Edward O'Beirne? Byrne? who is given as an Uncle to my gggrandmother Mary O'Beirne
I've found scant verifiable info on Michael Tobin: no siblings, no children except James Tobin born in 1862 , and possibly a sister Ellen. Family lived on upper east side after Jame's birth, but no mention of a Michael Tobin with similar address.
ANY help would be much appreciated.
Yet another Irishman with no past...there are many. I have several others in my family. I guess if you ascend from a veritable hell on earth the past is not to be remembered. I feel fortunate to know even as little as I do about James. Since he stayed in DC I have a newspaper article about his death in 1877. Have you tried tracing the children? Looked for marriage certificates in New York? I know in 19th century the Irish drew from a very limited pool of names for their children but, it is interesting that Michael named his kids (if that is who they were) James and Ellen. If you remember the response from Nowel, there was a family group from Ardmore with the father and mother named James and Ellen:.
Rootsireland (pay site) has transcriptions of baptisms in Ardmore parish for a Patrick 18/3/1827, James 6/6/1831 and an Edmond 27/2/1839. Parents James Tobin and Ellen Connelly (Connolly). Other siblings include Margaret 28/10/1828, Mary 15/9/1833, Helen 12/11/1935, Michael 18/3/1837 and John 22/5/1841.
Not much to go on but all the names are accounted for, even Edmond. (Although it sounds like Edmond O'Beirne? Byrne? does not belong to this Tobin group). From a family bible I know James had a June birthday so that makes it a closer match. Do you know Michael's approximate birth date? Have you explored document record available for New York like the census (which is online in several places)? There are so many online resources now to explore. Sometimes you can get clues from groups that existed around the person of interest. Like, for another of one of my mysterious Irish grandfathers I found out he was a card carrying member of the Fenians. From that I found ads in the 1859 DC papers for social events to raise money for the Fenians, with my gradfather's name listed as an organizer. I also found his Pension records from the DC Militia during the Civil War. None of this got me back to Ireland but I keep assembling the clues hoping something a connection will immerge one day. If you have any more details like a birth date let me know and I will an eye out.
Thanks for the info. My guess and it's just that is that my Michael Tobin was born in Ireland ca 1836.
so, the Michael Tobin you have a sibling of James that was born in 1837 is a good fit too.
I've looked at all the Censuses, Immigration lists etc but can't really confirm wheter possible matches are my Michael Tobin.
Do you have any further info on your Michael Tobin? Most of my Tobins settled first in NY and Brooklyn and later to Queens County.
I early years there seemed to be a number of family moves.
One of the biggest problems is that unfortunately I don't find a Michael Tobin that I can definitely state is my Michael Tobin in the records.
Most of my elder Tobin kin have passed on BEFORE I got started in genealogy. Look forward to your reply. Thanks much:)
Yes, very hard with so little to go on. And so many common names. We ( my cousin shares my ancestry obsession) have not really accounted for a Michael in our Tobins so I can't provide much from our research. And even between us, we are not totally in agreement about the parents in Ireland and who the siblings were. For instance my cousin believes the father was Thomas Tobin and not James. I do not see a paper trail for Thomas so I reserve judgement. So far the only verified info are the brothers James, Patrick, and Edward/Edmond. Do you have any clues about what Michael did for a living? Small things can lead to a connection. Sometimes you have to start a generation or 2 toward the present, and then work back. Can you trace anything about his son, James Buchanan? It has been awhile since I worked on Tobins. I will try my hand again with online records to see if there is anything new, maybe confirm a connection with the Ardmore family group. I will keep Michael in mind. If anything immerges I will post it.
