John Broder was born in Youghal about 1798-1801 (depending on which Wales census you believe). In Youghal in 1834 he married Ellen Geary, and in 1835 and 1836 were born their daughter Mary and son Thomas. By 1839 they had emigrated to Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales, where 4 subsequent children were born -- and where their name evolved to Broderick. Abergavenny had a thriving iron industry, which eventually brought 2 of the Broderick children to Pittsburgh in the U.S., where there was a strong job market for skilled ironworkers. Son John, born in 1842, emigrated in 1865 to take a job as a "puddler", who determined when a batch was ready to pour. A couple of years later his sister Anne came as well when her husband took a similar position in the same city. Although it is unlikely that either of the siblings ever set foot on Irish soil, both identified themselves as Irish in their own children's baptismal records in the U.S. Parents John and Ellen both died in Llanfoist in the Abergavenny area, in 1871 and 1886 respectively.
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| Date of Death | 1st Jul 1871 | VIEW SOURCE |
Greetings from IrelandXO
As your John was born circa 1780, there would be little records that far back, only came across one - see the link below:-
As far as I know the family there are no Brooder families in town now - checked the local cemetery and the last died back in 1940 aged 35 from Scarlet Fever and he was a John Brooder.
See spelling used here in Youghal.
Stay safe
phyl
Thanks very much, Phyl. I would not have thought of Brooder as the spelling. The townland Coolaha is promising, as John identified himself in various Wales censuses as being sometimes from County Cork and sometimes from County Waterford. The fact that Coolaha is fairly near to the County border makes it feasible that he spent some time living on each side of that border.
Do you know whether it would have been the custom in that area and at that time to use the naming pattern where the first boy is named after the paternal grandfather, the second boy after the maternal grandfather, and the third boy after the father?
I'm very appreciateive of your help.
Jay Shock / Pittsburgh USA
Hi Jay,
Came across this link: https://www.genealogy.com/articles/research/35_donna.html all about name patterns and it was a practice here in Ireland up till quite recently. Nowadays they could/are called after Celebrity's, very few are called after older relatives. It has been the downfall for many including myself as trying to distinguish between Michael's, John's etc. In 2 generations I have a total of 5 Michael's and 6 David's. I have also found death notices for you. Did a quick check and found no Broder/Brooder across the river in Co Waterford, nearest village would be Clashmore, Ardmore.
See attached list. take care and stay safe. - it wont let me attach it. email address is: liph.irwin77@gmail.com
take care and stay safe phyl
Hi Jay,
Looking information for another lady and came across this link: https://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths/cork/youghal.htm
Take note of the spelling - Bruther.
Stay safe
Phyl
Thank you, Phyl
I doubt that I would have ever discovered this without your help.
Best wishes
Jay
