Owen Ruddy 1835 : Short Biography

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Hello! Do you know who his parents were?

dlropp

Friday 15th May 2020 09:48PM

I think possibly Anthony Ruddy and Sally Padden. I base this on 3 possible siblings who all lived in Ederglen Bridget (1841) m John McGrath 1875 Sabina ( Sibby) married Tom Bell 1858 ( NB first child 1853) and Anthony married Ann Mcgrath 1875. All on Rootsireland. It is difficult to find anything before 1840. I also think Sally Father was Patrick ? Toorglass. Anny ideas??

BoB

Friday 15th May 2020 11:44PM

My Ruddy's are Michael and he married Ellen Lavelle. They had a few children and one was Bryan Bernard, my two times great grandfather, born in 1833. He followed his sister Mary to the states. My DNA shows that I'm related to descendants of a James Ruddy is either a brother of Bryan or a cousin. 

dlropp

Saturday 16th May 2020 09:45PM

Looked at Tithe applotments 1833 only 3 in Edderglen Bellmulet, Killala diocese: Bryan,(immigrated to  NY in 1851 Thomas and Hugh. In griffiths valaution only Owen left in 1855. I found Michael in 1833 in Carrowcreagh, Kilgarvan, Diocese Killala Along with a few other Ruddys.

James Ruddy in Attymass, Mongawnagh Killasser and Oughaval. There was a Bryan Lavelle in 1855 in Inver Belmullet.

The only Bernards were in Co Louth and Brian in Co.Donegal. I note that a Bryan Ruddy arrived in NY in 1851.

https://www.nli.ie/en/griffiths-valuation.aspx on left side has access to some church records, in Killala diocese.  Hope this helps.

BoB

Sunday 17th May 2020 09:36AM

Hello,

I have been looking at a little more research on the Ruddys.

I have found an Owen Ruddy born in 1831 to a James Ruddy and Mary Deane. Right timeline for my Owen Ruddy unfortunately 2 Parishes away in Ratheskin, Kilfian, CO. Mayo.

I looked again at Tithe applotment for Bryan, Hugh and Thomas Ruddy who were in Ederglen in 1832 but not 1855 Griffiths Valuation.

It is possible that they were all brothers.

Hugh Ruddy married a Honor Gibbons not sure when ? 3 children in church records :

Patrick : 17/March/1841

Ellen     : 6 / August/1843

Hugh     : 31/12/1845

Couldnt find any after 1845, still looking for before 1841. 

Have you the details of Bryans parents as they may be linked to Thomas and Hugh?

 

 

BoB

Sunday 7th June 2020 02:45PM

Bryan's father was Michael Ruddy and he married Ellen Lavelle. I show that Huigh and family emigrated to the US and settled in central IL.

dlropp

Monday 8th June 2020 01:50PM

Hello,

Here is information that may relate  and link our RUDDYS.

Marriages are only available 1836 to 1845

Baptism 1841 to 1872.

I have looked at births in Ederglen with sponsors ( godparents) RUDDY :

Owen Cafferky m Anne Murphy  1 child  (1851)BRYAN RUDDY / Bridget noone?

                                                     1 child (1848) NED RUDDY/ ROSE RUDDY

Pat McGrath m MARY RUDDY   1 child (1851) HUGH RUDDY / Cath McAndrew

I have HUGH  as being married to Honor Gibbons children:

Patrick 17/3/1841 Sponsor Pat? / Fanny McAndrew

ELLEN 6/8/1843 Sponsor MICHAEL RUDDY  SARAH (SABINA) RUDDY

Hugh 6/8/1845     Sponsor NED RUDDY / ROSE RUDDY

Owen Ruddy M Bridget Gaughan 1855. Died in 1895 at 63 so made birth 1831/33. Sabina Ruddy married Tom Bell in 1853/1858 (had child out of wedlock in 1853)

I have added reports so you can see who was in Ederglen 1832 and in 1855.

Is it reasonable to assume that they are all relatedthey are all related??

http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?county=Mayo&parish=Kilcommon&townland=Edderglen&search=Search

http://griffiths.askaboutireland.ie/gv4/z/zoomifyDynamicViewer.php?file=209052&path=./pix/209/&rs=47&showpage=1&mysession=2708969957546&width=&height=

http://griffiths.askaboutireland.ie/gv4/z/zoomifyDynamicViewer.php?file=209053&path=./pix/209/&showpage=1&mysession=2708969957546&width=&height=&debug=

 

 

BoB

Monday 8th June 2020 06:03PM

I was told to look for townships that had both Ruddy's and Lavelle's. I believe that they lived in Derrycorrib. My DNA points more towards that area as well. 

dlropp

Monday 8th June 2020 09:46PM

hello,

Only 1 Ruddy in Derricorrib Michael for Griffith valuation1855.I did notice a NOON there too. There was a Bridget Noon as a sponsor with Bryan in Ederglen, coincidence?

Is this Michael Ruddy m to Ellen Lavelle? Have you a year of marriage. It is fascinating how DNA can pin point a location. If you look on google maps satellite you can see the areas layout eg townships. I went over a few years ago not a lot to see on the ground.

http://griffiths.askaboutireland.ie/gv4/z/zoomifyDynamicViewer.php?file=209026&path=./pix/209/&rs=4&showpage=1&mysession=2708995839860&width=&height=

I Lovell in Tithe applotment 1834.http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?county=Mayo&parish=Kilcommon&townland=Derricorrib&search=Sea

Are you in the Uk ?

 

 

BoB

Monday 8th June 2020 10:45PM

I think they were married in the 1820's. I believe Bryan had a brother Michael, James and a sister Mary. Family story is he followed her to the states. There might have been more but haven't figured them out yet. 
 

I was born in Central Illinois, not far from where Bryan emigrated to. He farmed there. Hugh and several of his sons lived right around him. I currently live in Oklahoma. My parents live here as well but the rest of our family are still in Central IL. 

 

dlropp

Monday 8th June 2020 11:33PM

I Live in the UK. Owen Ruddy is my Great,great grandfather; his daughter being my great grandmother. Most of her siblings emigrated to the United states 1883.He had 1 daughter who married and went to live in Derrynameel. Another was a Rose married to a John Shevlane most of her family went to live in Scotland where I was born. My Great grandmother was the only one left and rumour has it she was emigating to the states when Owen died so she stayed and married the following year. The youngest son Hugh also left and came over to Northumberland. The Ruddys are on my mothers side.

I you like I can try and give you a hand, but beware it is addictive, confusing, but one way or another they are all related.!!! You can email if you like?

Looked in Irish census for 1901 James Ruddy in Derricorrib son in law to Lovelle:http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Mayo/Glencastle/Derrycorrib/1579375/. .The rest are in and around Derrynameel.

No Ruddys in Derryicorrib in 1911,quite a few in Derrynameel.

This is the link for parish registers https://www.nli.ie/en/parish-register.aspx you need to put in Belmullet for the Parish. I had a look last night and noticed that quite a few names where missing after 1853 so I suspect it was due to emigration.Mary Ruddy was married to Pat mcGrath in Ederglen and it looks as though they emigrated could this be the sister?

Post famine 1843 / 1847 mass emigration was increased and families /  relatives tended to go together. Those left tended to move into previous family areas, marriages were usually arranged (introduced) through relatives.

 

 

 

BoB

Tuesday 9th June 2020 08:11AM

Derricorrib is in the Glencastle area https://www.townlands.ie/mayo/erris/kilcommon/glencastle/derrycorrib

https://www.townlands.ie/mayo/erris/kilcommon/muings/ederglen/ useful for trying to locate areas.

 

 

BoB

Tuesday 9th June 2020 08:51AM

Have you the names of Hughs sons??

Belmullet is the parish for RUDDY and LOVELLE. Generally outside parishes where Kilcommon Erris or Ballycroy which would be put by spouses name.

Sponsors generally relatives or siblings. If couple related priest would generally put in relation eg 2nd to 2nd (cousin to second cousin)

It looks originally Bride township was documented then stopped. Marriage I guess as now took place in the HER Township.Then went to HIS township.

Brides normally 18/20 Groom 20/22 depending on income and land. Youngest son normally last to marry as he supported parents.

 

•   Patrick McGrath to MARY RODDY 11 January 1836  Ederglen, she would possibly have been born in 1816 /18 Sponsor Philip McAndrew / Catherine Lally
• Hugh Ruddy (B: 1820 /22) to Honor Dixon 1840
• MICHAEL RUDDY ( B; 1822 to 1824)to Mary Deane 15 July 1842 Sponsor: Owen ? / Mary Donohue
• MICHAEL RUDDY to Mary Conway 8 July 1842 Sponsors John Maginis/ Bridget Monihan
• Patrick? to BRIDGET RUDDY (  B: 1823 /1825) May 1843  Sponsors John McDonell Catherine ?H
• Patrick Gaughan to BRIDGET RUDDY9B; 823/1825)  26 July 1843 Sponsors Patt? Thomas /Anne King
• Anthony Barratt to NANCY (Anne 1826/ 28 )RUDDY 4 february 1844 Sponsors John Roddy / Nancy Roddy
• Patrick ?she to SIBY RODDY ( 1826 to 1828.  9 February1844 Sponsors Michael Dougherty / Catherine Early

Possibly then : Hugh 1820/22; Mary 1816/18;  Bridget 1823/24; Michael 1822/24;Nancy 1826/1828; Siby 1826/24. Owen Ruddy died 1895 age 60 so birth 1835 and I think you said Bryan was born in 1833?

Most records on subscriber sites are those transcribed from church records or later the civil records and Griffiths Valuation. Familysearch and Ancestry have passenger records for the so called Famine ships that left Ireland between 1840 to 1855but only list the single or head of family.

 

 

 

BoB

Tuesday 9th June 2020 12:34PM

Mary Ruddy was married to Pat mcGrath in Ederglen - this is not her. She was unmarried when she left. 

dlropp

Tuesday 9th June 2020 04:21PM

Bob,

Are you on Ancestry or had your DNA tested?

Debi

 

dlropp

Tuesday 9th June 2020 04:23PM

Yep to Ancestry, no to DNA as yet, I am trying to sort out a few ancestry things first, as my Mum has Irish , Northumbrian and Norwegian ancestry.

My Dad I have his history back to 1732, his family  came from Crossmolina just after the famine to Edinburgh, my Uncle spent years collecting the info, the farm is still on the outskirts of Ballina.We are in contact with family in the States.

I am in contact with a couple of people in Tristia and Bunnahowen.

Aha I think this Mary Ruddy is then related to Anthony Ruddy in Faulough, his son is the Anthony Ruddy who is in Ederglen on the 1901 census, I found his marriage.

BoB

Tuesday 9th June 2020 05:25PM

I meant to say that my Grandmother came to UK in 1930 so I know I am related to Owen Ruddy and his wife Bridget Gaughan.

BoB

Wednesday 10th June 2020 08:20AM

Bob,

You asked about Hugh's family. He married Honora Gibbons and I believe they had Rose (1831-1907), Michael (1831-1921), Catherine (1833-1915), Anthony (1835-1902), John (1841-1920), Mary (1846-?) and Patrick (1848-1892).I believe they were on the same boat as Bryan Bernard Ruddy's sister Mary and arrived like March 1851 and he arrived Sept 1851.

dlropp

Friday 12th June 2020 09:11PM

Hi Debi

Thank You . These  are the children of Hugh Ruddy and Honor Gibbons

Patrick 17/3/1841 Sponsor Pat McAndrew / Fanny McAndrew

ELLEN 6/8/1843 Sponsor MICHAEL RUDDY  SARAH (SABINA) RUDDY

Hugh 6/8/1845     Sponsor NED RUDDY / ROSE RUDDy

I couldnt find any before 1841 or after 1845.

Regarding  Pat McGrath and Mary Ruddy she came from Farlough, her son married the daughter of Anthony so would not have been allowed by the Catholic Church,.

I couldnt find anymore children for Michael Ruddy and Ellen Lavelle, but I did wonder if he was the sponsor for Ellen above.

Bryan is A Ruddy name,not common, and there was a Brian in Edderglen in 1833, which I guess could only mean that your Brian was a son ? What are his children called ?Sometimes the eldest children are called after grandparents, and others after Aunts and Uncles

I think you said he married a Shevlane? One of Owens daughters ROSE married a Shevlane from Briska so there is a connection there.

I looked to see if there was any Lavelles in Derrycorrib on the 1901 census, there was a Peter B:1836 with a son in law James Ruddy staying with him.There was also a daughter Ellen B: 1873/1875, so could a brother for Ellen Lavelle.

I know it sounds like clutching straws, but I found my great , great grandmother by checking sponsors.

Brenda

BoB

Saturday 13th June 2020 06:52PM

My Bryan is the son of Michael and Ellen Lavelle. There was a Bryan Bernard Lavelle that I'm guessing could have been Ellen's brother. Bryan married Bridget Shevlin but she was born in Pottsville, Pennsylvania. Her parents were Patrick and Mary Casey Shevlin. They both were born in Ireland. Hugh might be a cousin of Michael. I do know they had more children because there were more that came over with them and lived around Central IL. 

dlropp

Saturday 13th June 2020 08:45PM

Hello again,

Just to say  I have been Looking at Hugh Ruddy via Ancestry as there are some similarities with Hugh from Ederglen, still picking through information. You may have this, I found a Michael Ruddy living in Sunbury Livingston Illinois age 50 on the 1870 census birth 1820 Ireland, noticed that he died on 18/11/1879 with birth 15 March 1822 buried in Dwight cemetry; there is a Newspaper obit for Michael associated with Ellen Lavelle! Perhaps he belongs with Bryan??I had hoped he was the sponsor for one of Hughs children.

I eventually found the Michael associated with Hugh he died on 30 January 1921 birth 15 September 1831.

Can you tell me if the info on Find a grave is  added by families I only ask that on Hugh ( Kendall) Ruddy there is a Anthony W Ruddy as a son but I found Anthony deceased on 4 April 1812 with parents details buried in Audubon?? Have you deatails of emigration?

BoB

Thursday 9th July 2020 11:42PM

I will give you my thoughts on Hugh Ruddy. He was born 1798 in Co. Mayo. He married Honora Gibbons in 1829. They have a daughter Rose (Jun 1831), Michael 15 Sep 1831, Catherine (1833), Anthony (18 Nov 1835), John (6 Jun 1841), Mary (1846) and Patrick (Mar 1848). I believe they arrived in 1851. They either were on the same ship or one a few months earlier than Bryan Bernard. I have found that all his children came with him. They all lived near each other and that includes Bryan Bernard. Bryan's brother John and sister Mary came to the US. I believe that another Ruddy - Thomas might have been on the same ship as Bryan but not sure who he is so far. 
 

dlropp

Friday 10th July 2020 12:58AM

Where can I see the newspaper obit related to Ellen Lavelle and a Michael Ruddy. The info on find a grave might be from a family member on his side. I didn't even know they were buried in Odell. I found a will associated with a Patrick Lavelle that named one of the beneficiaries as a Michael Ruddy in Sunbury, IL. 
 

 

 

 

 

dlropp

Friday 10th July 2020 01:16AM

On ancestry if you input :
Michael Ruddy
Residence Sunbury,Livingston County, Illinois
Birth:1820 Ireland
Death 18 November 1879
On the side it will come up with newspaper.obit Michael click on hopefully your browser will support.
There is also an 1870 federal census.
Bryan has an 1880 census showing Mary Ruddy mother in law ,I suspect it should read sister in law. 1900 census shows age and emigration for him.
Here is my email: brenda.smith4955 @gmail.com.I will send info I have found so far

BoB

Friday 10th July 2020 08:13AM

Rose Ruddy 1900 married to Martin Conway ,date of birth June 1831, emigrated 1849, not belonging to Hugh as Michael born 15 September 1831, died January 1921 is on1820, 1910, 1900, federal census with emigration date.

BoB

Friday 10th July 2020 02:45PM

I've had others try to tell me that Bridget's mother married one of Hugh's sons. I don't think so because her father didn't die until he was in Illinois and later. I'm going to go look at the Michael Ruddy right now. 

My email is debi1616@hotmail.com

 

dlropp

Saturday 11th July 2020 12:12AM

My motto keep an open mind. Just looking through 1860 census for that area at other Ruddys I am assuming that Hugh was
given Kendall so as to differentiate from another Hugh. Also found an Anthony DeKalb Ruddy so maybe the same reason!

BoB

Saturday 11th July 2020 07:56AM

I can't get newspaper.com to open for me without paying for it. 

dlropp

Saturday 11th July 2020 09:08PM

Ok I will see what I can do this end.

BoB

Saturday 11th July 2020 11:47PM

Hello Bob and everyone,

My great-great grandmother was Sabina "Sibby" Ruddy, who has been mentioned in these discussions. She married Thomas Bell. Their son Anthony is my great grandfather. He emigrated to Philadelphia, as did his sister Mary. Both married McLoughlin siblings from Bunnahowen

Saturday 23rd January 2021 04:37PM

Hello cousin,

Bryan Bernard stopped over in PA before settling in Illinois. Perhaps he visited your relatives. 

 

Debi
 

 

 

dlropp

Saturday 23rd January 2021 07:47PM

Hello,

Owen Ruddy is my Great,Great , Grandfather and Sabina is his sister. So I guess we are cousins .

Sabina married Tom Bell on 12 September 1858. Their children  I have found so far with baptism dates are Ellen 24/11/1856; William 11/6/1856 (both reg as illigetimate); Sabina 24/7/1859 and of course Anthony 16/2/1862.All available on registers.nli.ie/registers. I wasnt aware of Mary , couldn't find her or any others after scanning the catholic registers.

Owen had 4 children who emigrated to Pennsylvania

Anne , arrived 1882, married Michael Malia. lived West Mahanoy, Schuylkill

 Michael arrived in 1882, married Margaret Mc Donnell / McDonald,  lived in 4th Street, Scranton ward 6.

Anthony arrived in 1891, married Sabina Cosgrove, lived in Clybowne Ave,Cleveland,Cuyahoga.

Bridget arrived in 1895, married Michael McDonald ( brother to Margaret), lived in West 52 st., Cleveland , Cuyahoga. Which month did Anthony arrive in the USA, perhaps she came over with Anthony? Bridget was the youngest of Owens children. 

I haven't as yet found the death records for Sabina and Tom.

Hope you keep in touch

 

 

 

BoB

Sunday 24th January 2021 11:27AM

Hello Cousin Bob,

It's great to make this connection and find out about all the Ruddy cousins. I had the information on Anthony, but none of the others.

William Bell also ended up in Cleveland, having lived initially in Lost Creek, Schuylkill County, PA. None of his male children survived, but there are numerous descendants through his daughters.

I have a large tree on ancestry . Com if you have access.

Best regards,

Michael F Bell

Sunday 24th January 2021 04:49PM

So was Rose your great grandmother? Also, which of Owen's daughters married and moved to Derrynameel, and who was her husband.

By the way, when I visited Ederglen in 1995, I met a Mr McGrath, whose family had bought the Bell cabin, which was still standing at the time, with a bit of thatch left. It's now gone. At any rate, judging from what you said above, he was also a cousin, possibly the son of Patrick. He told the story that my great grandfather had carried his father over the hills to Rathmorgan for the wedding of Anthony's sister, Sabina to Harry Barrett.

Cheers,

Michael

Sunday 24th January 2021 05:13PM

Hello Michael,

I went to Ireland  a few years ago and found that Owens house and land had passed through marriage to his daughter Catherine (my great grandmother) who had married a Carolan from Tristia.

Rose was my great aunt she married a John Shevlane both were witnesses at my grandmothers wedding.

My Grans brother Hugh moved to Northumberland and married a local girl their daughter married a McGrath who was boarding over there.There are no McGraths remaining in Ederglen . 

Sabina Bell was married on 29 November 1883 to Harry Barrett from Glencastle ( Barretts are related to Carolans my Great grandfathers family) records state both fathers dead so ihave been using that date as a starting point to try and find his death record. On the record it also gives witnesses as Anthony and  Sabina Ruddy ( Her cousin)

Sabina and her son died on the 15 March 1886  Civil records. irish geneaology/ church records. Poor michael no having much luck as this was his second marriage.

Mary Bell have you a date of birth. I couldnt find anything on Ellen daughter of Sabina and Tom.

Yes I am on Ancestry too.I am on email if you want to contact that way.

 

 

 

BoB

Sunday 24th January 2021 07:24PM

Bob,

Thanks for all the great info.

In the 1900 census, Mary's DOB is shown as Dec 1856. In her death certificate for 28 April 1905, age is given as 50, which would mean 1854, if she were born in Dec. Like you, I've been unable to find her in the parish records. Ellen disappears after the baptismal record.

https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/tree/57581685/family/familyview?cf…

castledangerous@gmail.com

Monday 25th January 2021 02:48AM

Thomas Barrett born 15/01/1885 to Sabina and Harry

BoB

Monday 25th January 2021 07:59AM

Thomas Barrett has a descendant living in Durham, UK, by the way. I chatted with his wife on ancestry

Tuesday 26th January 2021 09:32PM

That is interesting, I guess it was to work in the mines? My Great grandmothers brother Hugh worked lived and died in Northumberland. looking at the census quite a few Men and their relatives ( Rathmorgan and Edderglen) were in and around the North East. Did you get my message via email? I have some info that rosemary curator at the Blacksod museum sent regarding emigrations of Ruddy families, as yet, I havent worked on it , any use ?

BoB

Wednesday 27th January 2021 12:36PM

I haven't seen any emails. When was it sent?

Wednesday 27th January 2021 07:34PM

Oh, found it in Spam folder!

Wednesday 27th January 2021 07:36PM

"I Live in the UK. Owen Ruddy is my Great,great grandfather; his daughter being my great grandmother. Most of her siblings emigrated to the United states 1883.He had 1 daughter who married and went to live in Derrynameel. Another was a Rose married to a John Shevlane most of her family went to live in Scotland where I was born. My Great grandmother was the only one left and rumour has it she was emigating to the states when Owen died so she stayed and married the following year. The youngest son Hugh also left and came over to Northumberland. The Ruddys are on my mothers side"

Rose Ruddy is my Grandmother on my fathers side. She married John Shevlane and lived in Briska Near Bangor Erris.

There children were Bridget; Patrick; Anthony; John; James; Mary; and Hugh. Hugh being my father. I live in the Uk.

 

 

Padraig55

Tuesday 13th July 2021 02:51PM

Hello,

It is very nice to hear from you, I was wondering what had happened to you all :). My Mum has passed since I started looking, in 2016 I don't think she realised that Rose was her Aunt. John, ( her cousin) was at my Grans funeral in 1974 In Edinburgh. I have had my 3rd cousin in Ireland looking for anyone that might be left............

 

Brenda

BoB

Tuesday 13th July 2021 05:41PM

Padraig,

If you are happy to do so would you like to get in contact. I was told that there might be a relative living in England

Are you on ancestry?  

BoB

Tuesday 20th July 2021 02:14PM

Hi, hopefully someone will be able to clear something up does anyone know if the  Upper Glencullen Ruddys are connected to the Lower Glencullen Ruddys ? I seem to have a lot of Ruddy DNA Matches. I am descended from James Ruddy - 1860 - 1865.  
 

Karen Lovell

Saturday 8th October 2022 10:45AM

Hi Karen,

In all probability they would be related.,as both are close to each other and more often than not inter marriage between cousins etc.

Are you on ancestry ? I am related to the Ruddys in Muingingane which isn't far from Glencullin

 

Brenda

BoB

Saturday 8th October 2022 03:22PM

Hi Bob, Thank you for you reply,  yes I am - my Paternal grandmother was a Ruddy from Glencullen 
username would be kazlovell

GedMatch is LY2732280

 

Karen Lovell

Tuesday 11th October 2022 10:23AM

Alas Karen we are not connected by DNA.

I am however related to  John Carolan from Largan Beg married to Ann Guinty from Glencullen (1858)

These people might be connections for you Sarah Eckford and James Maughan

 

Hope this helps.

BoB

Thursday 13th October 2022 06:16PM

Thank you Brenda. I am connected to a John Carolan - according to the DNA, but he's American, sounds like the same one though and yes I am connected to both other names. It's quite hard to untangle some lines but will keep chipping away, wishing you all the best. 

Karen Lovell

Tuesday 18th October 2022 11:33AM

Karen 

I looked at Griffiths valuation for you, the only Ruddy was a Thomas Reddy in Glencullen Upper in 1853,maybe connected to Cuffe family as Thomas had 3 quarters of the land and Michael Cuffe1 qiarter.. It is worth looking at the names there at that time.

Best wishes,

Brenda

 

 

 

BoB

Tuesday 18th October 2022 01:24PM