Do you know what denominationn your Bain family was? There are fairly good chruch records in Antrim for both Presbyterians and Church of Ireland. Neither is on-line but there are copies in PRONI in Belfast. You might want to get aresearcger to go through them looking for the family.
Place of migration
Migrated to /Born in Canada
Samuel may have been born 10 Feb 1811, Antrim, Antrim.
He migrated to Canada in 1832 where he initially settled in Toronto as a tailor.
In 1836 he married Jane Bone from Torpoint, Cornwall, UK. By 1848 or so they had moved to Scott Township where he eventually bought 3 parcels of land and was a farmer. He lived in the township until he died in 1879.
He and Jane had 8 boys and 4 girls. According to Y-DNA and confirming Autosomal DNA, he and Jane appear to be my 2nd great grandparents. One of their sons should be my grandfather's biological father. I am also looking for Samuel's ancestors as I match with another Bain whose emigrant ancestor came to the US about 1774 and settled in Randolph County, North Carolina. Known as James Bayne per the DAR. He married Martha Brooks from Kentucky. These two Bains match each other with all 111 DNA markers and should have a common ancestor couple within 5 generations back.
| Additional Information | ||
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| Date of Birth | 10th Feb 1811 (circa) | |
| Date of Death | 30th Apr 1879 | |
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Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
Thursday 12th November 2020 04:22PM -
I am quite sure he was Presbyterian he declared several different Presbyterian flavors on Canadian Censuses from Cessation to Reformed to plain old Presbyterian.
thank you fir the research suggestion. They need to be made available online on PRONI.
Suebain
Thursday 12th November 2020 06:00PM -
Suebain,
There was a Secession Presbyterian church in Antrim town but I am pretty certain none of it’s records have survived. The church and graveyard are still there but it’s been closed for 70 years or more and PRONI don’t have any records for it. There’s no Reformed Presbyterian church locally but there is a long established mainstream Presbyterian church (now known as Antrim 1st but for many years as Mill Row). The records can be found in PRONI and include:
Baptisms, 1677-1733, 1753-85, 1791-2 and 1820-1960; marriages, 1675-1736, 1820-39 and 1845-1913; marriage notices, 1870-1995;deaths, 1820-35; indexes to baptisms, 1677-1733 and 1820-39, and to marriages, 1675-1736 and 1820-39; family records for the late 18th and 19th centuries; stipend account books, 1837-64 and 1885-1924; communion roll, 1854-9; Sabbath
School library loan book, 1870 and 1879-81; account books, 1821-61 and 1870-76; list of seatholders, 1838; session minutes, 1823-4; 1831-2, 1834-9 and 1842-54; a register of leaving certificates, 1842-50; Sabbath School receipt and expenditure book, 1835-62, with a weekly roll of teachers and salaries, 1840-41.
One of the Ministers kept detailed diaries. Rev Robt Magill was Minister there 1820 -1839. He kept extraordinarily detailed records of his congregation. His diaries can be found in PRONI under ref D2930/9. The following observations on them are taken from the Dictionary of Irish Biography:
“It’s attention to detail is extraordinary: he notes the jobs of his parishioners, their time of death to the minute, the names of his correspondents and visitors, the genealogy of everyone, and the price of everything. It attests to his constant, dutiful parish work and to a methodical, even obsessive, cataloguing mind and is of considerable historical interest.”
So you might not just get baptism information, a wider search may get detailed family information too.
Researchers in the PRONI area: http://sgni.net
Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
Thursday 12th November 2020 07:37PM -
I am incorrect as to who James Bayne married. His wife's first name was Margaret, last name possibly unknown.
Suebain
Sunday 22nd November 2020 11:19PM -
If the family comes from Antrim town the records you need may well exist.
I note your earlier comment that they need to be made available on-line. That’s not going to happen I am afraid. From what the PRONI Director said publicly some years back, their policy is to make their records available to the public free, and they don’t want to charge for access. Putting them on-line means entering into a contract with a commercial company and would lead to charges. They don’t want to do that. If you can’t get to PRONI in person then you may need to employ a researcher to look them up for you.
Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
Sunday 22nd November 2020 11:39PM -
Thank you for that comment about PRONI. I guess I may need to hire someone.
Suebain
Monday 23rd November 2020 02:05AM -
Researchers in the PRONI area: http://sgni.net
Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
Monday 23rd November 2020 11:13AM
