Sarah Josephine Ruane 19041904

Sarah Josephine Ruane 1904

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Sarah J Ruane was born in Galway in 1904 to Parents Stephen Ruane and Mary (Nevin) Ruane, she had an older brother Stephen Born 1900, an older sister Mary Margaret born 1902, and younger brother Michael born 1908. We know that Sarah, her Parents and two siblings came to Scotland we think around 1920 because of terrible stories of the" Black & Tans" that she could tell us about. But we don't know anything about her older brother Stephen, as there is no record of him in Scotland. We also have no record of previous ancestors that maybe lived and died in Galway?  We know from the Census of 1901 and 1911 that the family lived in St Patricks Avenue Galway and then Middle Street Galway. Sarah was Baptised in St Nicholas Parish Galway and her parents were married there also.

Any information would be much appreciated!

Thanks

John

 

 

 

Additional Information
Date of Birth 23rd Oct 1904
Father (First Name/s and Surname) Stephen Ruane
Mother (First Name/s and Maiden) Mary (Nevin) Ruane
Names of Siblings Stephen, Mary Margaret, Michael

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  • Hello John,

    I’m not related but saw your message at Ireland Reaching Out’s, “St Nicholas (Galway) Reaching Out – new additions this week.”

    I found information about the younger Stephen Ruane that you may be interested in. In just a bit you’ll be able to access a free copy of his civil registration birth record from the irishgenealogy.ie website by clicking on the link that is coming up.

    As you’ll see the birth record shows that Stephen was born in Knock, Galway, on 17 April 1900. His father is Stephen Ruane, of Galway, employed as a “Tram Driver.” His mother is Mary Ruane, formerly “Neavin.” Mary, whose residence was Knock, reported the birth to the registrar, Martin Semple. Martin Semple recorded the birth in the Ballinrobe Registration District on 5 May 1900. Go to the following link and follow the prompts to access Stephen’s birth record: https://tinyurl.com/n86zh8n4

    There are several townlands in County Galway called Knock, but without more specific information I can’t tell which Knock townland that Stephen was actually born in.

    Sometime after the 1911 census the younger Stephen Ruane moved to England, as I found him and his wife Ethel living in Paddington, London, in a collection from Ancestry.com entitled, “1939 England and Wales Register.”

    The 1939 register shows that Stephen and Ethel were living at an address of 32 Delamere Tce in Paddington. I believe that the initials Tce stand for Terrace, and so the address would be 32 Delamere Terrace, Paddington. Stephen’s date of birth is 17 April 1900, which is the same date on his Irish birth record. The register also shows that Stephen was employed as a “Railway Porter.”

    His wife Ethel was born on 13 April 1891. Her occupation was “Household Duties (Unpaid).”

    The individual indexes for Stephen and Ethel in the 1939 England and Wales Register are below. As mentioned above, the Register was found at the Ancestry.com website. The original 1939 England and Wales Registers are held by the National Archives, Kew, Surrey, London:

    1939 England and Wales Register

    Name: Stephen Ruane
    Gender: Male
    Marital Status: Married
    Birth Date: 17 Apr 1900
    Residence Date: 1939
    Address: 32 Delamere Tce
    Residence Place: Paddington, London, England
    Occupation: Railway Porter
    Line Number: 9
    Schedule Number: 78
    Sub Schedule Number: 1
    Enumeration District: APBM
    Borough: Paddington
    Inferred Spouse: Ethel Ruane

    Household Members, Age
    Stephen Ruane 39
    Ethel Ruane 48

    1939 England and Wales Register

    Name: Ethel Ruane
    Gender: Female
    Marital Status: Married
    Birth Date: 13 Apr 1891
    Residence Date: 1939
    Address: 32 Delamere Tce
    Residence Place: Paddington, London, England
    Occupation: Household Duties (Unpaid)
    Line Number: 10
    Schedule Number: 78
    Sub Schedule Number: 2
    Enumeration District: APBM
    Borough: Paddington
    Inferred Spouse: Stephen Ruane

    Household Members, Age
    Stephen Ruane 39
    Ethel Ruane 48

    Source Information
    Ancestry.com. 1939 England and Wales Register [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2018.

    Original data: Crown copyright images reproduced by courtesy of TNA, London England. 1939 Register (Series RG101), The National Archives, Kew, London, England. The National Archives give no warranty as to the accuracy, completeness or fitness for the purpose of the information provided. Images may be used only for purposes of research, private study or education. Applications for any other use should be made to The National Archives Image Library, Kew, Richmond, Surrey TW9 4DU, Tel: 020 8392 5225. Fax: 020 8392 5266.
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    I’d like to send you an attachment of the original 1939 England and Wales Register, but there is no place provided in the Ireland Reaching Out reply section to do this. If you can provide your email address in a follow-up reply to Ireland Reaching Out, I’ll send the attachment as soon as I receive your return message.

    Another collection at Ancestry.com called, “London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965,” gives Stephen and Ethel Ruane’s address as 20 Delamere Crescent, rather than Delamere Terrace for the year 1935.

    See below:

    London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965

    Name: Stephen Ruane
    Electoral Date: 1935
    Street Address: 20 Delamere Crescent
    Ward or Division/Constituency: Paddington
    County or Borough: Westminster, England

    Name: Ethel Ruane
    Electoral Date: 1935
    Street Address: 20 Delamere Crescent
    Ward or Division/Constituency: Paddington
    County or Borough: Westminster, England

    Source Information
    Ancestry.com. London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010.

    Original data: Electoral Registers. London, England: London Metropolitan Archives.
    Images produced by permission of the City of London Corporation Libraries, Archives and Guildhall Art Gallery Department.
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    I didn’t find a Delamere Crescent in London, but did locate Delamere Terrace and a Delamere Street on a Google Map, which you can view at: https://tinyurl.com/59s9f32h

    Not labeled on the map is the name of the canal that runs parallel to Delamere Terrace. This is The Grand Union Canal.

    For two Google Street Views of a shade covered Delamere Terrace, see: https://tinyurl.com/mryuyf2e and https://tinyurl.com/2p8mt27h

    An index from Ancestry.com shows that the marriage of Stephen Ruane and Ethel Edwards was recorded in the Paddington, London Registration District in the June quarter of 1931. See the index below:

    England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005

    Name: Stephen Ruane
    Registration Date: Apr 1931
    Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
    Registration District: Paddington
    Inferred County: London
    Spouse: Ethel Edwards
    Volume Number: 1a
    Page Number: 124

    Source Citation
    General Register Office; United Kingdom; Volume: 1a; Page: 124

    Source Information
    Ancestry.com. England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc, 2010.
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    A copy of the original marriage record for Stephen and Ethel will provide a lot more information that the index you see above. For example the marriage record should tell you the exact date and place of marriage, ages of the groom and bride, if either had been previously married, their occupations as well as their residence when they married. The names of their fathers and father’s occupations should also be recorded along with the names of the witnesses to the marriage.

    The General Register Office (GRO) in Southport, England, holds civil registration birth, marriage, and death records from the September quarter of 1837.

    The marriage index for Stephen and Ethel above shows their marriage was recorded in the Paddington Registration District for the June quarter of 1931, and that the marriage can be found in Volume 1a, Page 124 of the marriage registers held by the GRO.

    For ordering information and costs about birth, marriage, and death certificates from the GRO, go to: https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/login.asp

    You’ll have to register with the GRO to order certificates.

    The 1939 England and Wales Register shows that Ethel Ruane was born on 13 April 1891, which would place her age at 40 years old when she married in 1931.

    At her age of 40 at the time of marriage in 1931, I didn't expect that Ethel and Stephen would have had many children, if any.

    I looked for the GRO birth indexes for their children from 1931 to 1941 at the FreeBMD website but found none.

    Back at Ancestry.com I found Stephen Ruane in a collection called, " UK, Railway Employment Records, 1833-1956.” This is an index, not a copy of the original record. The index shows that Stephen’s residence date is 5 December 1938. The next year Stephen and Ethel would be recorded in the 1939 England and Wales Register.

    The Railway Employment Record index is below, and provides the additional information that Stephen’s date of birth is 17 April 1900, his age is 38, the station where he was assigned was Marylebone in London, and the company he worked for the London and North Eastern Railway.

    The index follows:

    UK, Railway Employment Records, 1833-1956

    Name: Stephan Ruane
    Age: 38
    Birth Date: 17 Apr1900
    Residence Date: 5 Dec1938
    Station: Marylebone
    Company: London and North Eastern
    Description: Returns of staff at stations and depots as at 31 oct. 1939

    Ancestry.com. UK, Railway Employment Records, 1833-1956 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.

    Original data: Railway Employment Records. Kew, Surrey, England: The National Archives. Data imaged from the National Archives, London, England. The National Archives gives no warranty as to the accuracy, completeness or fitness for the purpose of the information provided. Images may be used only for purposes of research, private study or education. Applications for any other use should be made to the National Archives, Kew, Richmond, Surrey TW9 4DU.
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    If you provide your email address in a follow-up reply I can send you a copy of the original railway employment record for Stephen Ruane.

    For more information about the London and North Eastern Railway, see the Wikipedia article at:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_and_North_Eastern_Railway

    Going back to the electoral registers at Ancestry.com, I found that by the year 1949 Stephen and Ethel Ruane were living at Bloomfield Place, Paddington, London.

    See below:

    London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965

    Name: Stephen Ruane
    Electoral Date: 1949
    Ward or Division/Constituency: Paddington
    Street: Bloomfield Place
    County or Borough: Westminster, England

    Name: Ethel Ruane
    Electoral Date: 1949
    Ward or Division/Constituency: Paddington
    Street: Bloomfield Place
    County or Borough: Westminster, England

    Source Information
    Ancestry.com. London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010.

    Original data: Electoral Registers. London, England: London Metropolitan Archives. Images produced by permission of the City of London Corporation Libraries, Archives and Guildhall Art Gallery Department.
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    A Google Map shows that Bloomfield Place is 2.8 miles east of Delamere Terrace, Paddington: https://tinyurl.com/y8cscxhn

    For a Google Street View of Bloomfield Place, see: https://tinyurl.com/mste5e6v

    Stephen Ruane died the year after he was recorded in the 1949 Electoral Registers. The Ancestry.com website shows his death took place in October 1950 and is recorded in the Paddington Registration District for the December quarter of 1950. At the time of death Stephen was 50 years old, placing his year of birth in 1900.

    See the index below:

    England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007

    Name: Stephen Ruane
    Death Age: 50
    Birth Date: abt 1900
    Registration Date: Oct 1950
    Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
    Registration District: Paddington
    Inferred County: London
    Volume: 5d
    Page: 140

    Source Citation
    General Register Office; United Kingdom; Volume: 5d; Page: 140

    Source Information
    Ancestry.com. England & Wales, Civil Registration
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    Stephen’s death record can be found in Volume 5d, Page 140 of the GRO registers. You can order his full death record from the GRO.

    I next located the death index for Stephen’s wife Ethel at the FreeBMD website. Her death was recorded in the Llanfyllin (Wales) Registration District in the March quarter of 1972. The index further shows that Ethels date of birth was 13 April 1891, which is the same date of birth found in the 1939 England and Wales Register noted above.

    The index is below:

    Death March Quarter 1972
    Ethel Ruane
    Date of Birth: 13 April 1891
    Registration District: Llanfyllin
    Volume: 8c
    Page: 1681
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    Ethel’s full death record can be found in Volume 8c, Page 1681 of the GRO registers.

    Why Ethel made her way from London to Llanfyllin, Wales is unknown. According to a Wkipedia article, Llanfyllin is a “sparsely populated” section of Wales: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llanfyllin

    A Google Map shows that Llanfyllin, Wales, is almost 200 miles northwest of Delamere Terrace and Bloomfield Place in London: https://tinyurl.com/2p9fbpc2

    For Google Street Views of Llanfyllin, see: https://tinyurl.com/yc4trvv8 and https://tinyurl.com/5h9aceks

    If I knew the name of Ethel’s father and mother, I would be able to look for more information about her, particularly in the 1901 and 1911 England census returns, and in the GRO birth records for the June quarter of 1891.

    Indexes at the GRO website shows the births of 12 children named Ethel Edwards in the June quarter of 1891. Two of them were recorded in London, but I don’t know if Ethel was born in London or not.

    John, if you order the marriage record for Stephen Ruane and Ethel Edwards, please let me know the name of Ethel’s father, and I’ll see if I can find more information about her, if you are interested.

    THE FAMILY OF STEPHEN RUANE IN IRELAND

    Going back to Irish records I looked for Stephen and Mary Ruane and their children in the 1911 census at the National Archives of Ireland’s search engine at:
    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/

    The 1911 census was taken on Sunday, 2 April. The ages of people in the census were ages from their last birthday, not the birthday coming up.

    I found that 40 year old Stephen and 39 year old Mary and four of their children were the “Residents of a house 2.1 in Middle Street (Galway East, Urban, Galway).”

    The census shows that all in the family were Roman Catholic, and that Stephen and the children were born in County Galway, but that Stephen’s wife Mary was born in County Mayo. Stephen’s occupation is “Tram Driver.”

    The census line for Mary shows that as of 1911 she and Stephen had been married for 12 years and in that time had 5 children, with 4 children still living. In your Ireland Reaching Out post you had mentioned four children, including Sarah, Stephen, Mary Margaret, and Michael. These four children are in the household with their parents in the 1911 census, with Stephen being the oldest at age 11, followed by 9 year old May M., 6 year old Mary G., and 2 year old Michael T. Stephen, Mary, and Sarah are shown to be “Scholars,” that is, students.

    The census shows the father Stephen Ruane could not read but could speak Irish and English. His wife Mary and son Stephen are shown to be able to read and write and speak both Irish and English. Daughter Mary could read and write, and Sarah could read.

    The 1911 census transcription of the Ruane household can be found at the National Archives of Ireland link at:
    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Galway/Galway_East__Ur…

    Once the census page downloads, make sure you click on “Show all information” to view the full census page from left to right. If you do not click on “Show all information,” you will not be able to see the section of the census telling you that Stephen and Mary were married for 12 years and that they had five children with four children still living.

    You can view a copy of the original 1911 census for the Ruane family at:
    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003939987/

    In the bottom left corner of the census you’ll see that the father, Stephen Ruane, signed with his signature. To the left of his name is the name of the enumerator who collected the census from the Ruane family. The enumerator is also a constable. His name is Daniel Lyons.

    Information from the 1911 census showing that Stephen and Mary had five children, with one child deceased, prompted me to look for the civil registration birth records for all the children born after Stephen in 1900. I especially wanted to locate the birth and death records for the child who did not live long enough to be counted in the 1911 census.

    I looked for the birth records and the death record at the irishgenealogy.ie website.

    THE BIRTH OF MARY MARGARET RUANE

    As you know the child born after Stephen was Mary Margaret Ruane. Her birth took place on 15 February 1902. Her birthplace was St. Patrick’s Avenue, Galway City. Her father is Stephen Ruane, a “Tram Driver” living on St. Patrick’s Avenue. Her mother is Mary Ruane, formerly Nevin. Anne Mahoney was present at the birth and reported the birth to the assistant registrar, Thomas Lyon. Anne Mahoney’s residence was Bohermore. Thomas Lydon recorded Mary Margaret’s birth in the Galway Registration District on 19 February 1902. Mary Margaret’s birth is the last one in the register, number 85, at: https://tinyurl.com/2vswba32

    Anne Mahoney could have been the midwife who helped to deliver Mary Margaret.

    THE BIRTH OF SARAH JOSEPHINE RUANE

    Sarah Josephine Ruane’s birth took place on St. Patrick’s “Street,” Galway City, on 23 October 1904. Her father is Stephen Ruane, a Tram Driver of St. Patrick’s Street. Sarah’s mother is Mary Ruane, formerly Nevin. Sarah Nugent of Prospect Hill, Galway City, was present at the birth and reported the birth to the assistant registrar, Thomas Lydon, who recorded the birth in the Galway Registration District on 29 October 1904. Sarah’s birth is the last entry in the register at number 183: https://tinyurl.com/2p9bwd8u

    I could not find a St. Patrick’s “Street” in Galway City, which means the assistant registrar, Thomas Lydon, probably made an error recording Sarah’s birth in St. Patrick’s Street, rather than St. Patrick’s Avenue..

    THE BIRTH OF ANNIE RUANE

    Annie is the child who didn’t live to be recorded in the 1911 census. Her birth at Forster Street, Galway City, took place on 20 November 1906. Her father is Stephen Ruane a Tram Driver of Forster Street. Her mother is Mary Ruane, formerly Nevin. Anne Mahoney of Bohermore was present at the birth and reported the birth to the assistant registrar, Thomas Lydon. Thomas Lydon recorded Annie’s birth in the Galway Registration District on 24 November 1906. Annie’s birth is number 162 in the register at: https://tinyurl.com/2hxhmeka

    THE DEATH OF ANNIE RUANE

    Annie died on 28 August 1907 at the age of 9 months. The place of death was Prospect Hill. She is shown to have been the “Daughter of a Tram Driver.” The cause of death was Diphtheria 5 Days.” Annie’s mother, Mary Ruane of Prospect Hill, reported the death to the assistant registrar, Thomas Lydon, who recorded the death in the Galway Registration District on 5 October 1907. Annie’s death is the first entry in the register at number 226: https://tinyurl.com/2p8vsvca

    Mary signed the death register with “her x mark,” indicating that she could not write, but the 1911 census shows that she could read and write.

    BIRTH OF MICHAEL THOMAS RUANE

    Michael’s birth on Prospect Hill, Galway City, took place on 18 September 1908. His father is Stephen Ruane, a Tram Driver of Prospect Hill. Thomas’s mother is Mary Ruane, formerly Nevin. Sarah Nugent of Prospect Hill was present at the birth and reported the birth to the registrar, Thomas Lydon, who recorded the birth in the Galway Registration District on 26 September 1907. Michael’s birth is the last entry in the register at: https://tinyurl.com/s3vznf6u

    A Google Map shows that St. Patrick’s Avenue, Prospect Hill, and Forster Street are not far from Eyre Square in Galway City: https://tinyurl.com/2p8d68u7

    For a Google Street View of St. Patrick’s Avenue from Eyre Square, see: https://tinyurl.com/me7bpm9n

    For a Google Street View of Prospect Hill, Galway City, go to: https://tinyurl.com/mhyku78k

    A Google Street View of Forster Street can be found at: https://tinyurl.com/2p8fm8h7

    THE 1901 CENSUS

    Going back in time I found 30 year old Stephen and 29 year old Mary Ruane in the 1901 census transcription at the National Archives of Ireland link. The 1901 census transcription shows that Stephen and Mary’s son Stephen is in the household, but no age is given for him in the transcription. This usually means that a child is under the age of 1, but that his age in months will be recorded in the original census.

    Stephen, Mary, and Stephen are shown to be the " Residents of a house 5 in St. Patrick's Avenue (Galway Urban, Galway).” They would have lived across from Eyre Square, as noted on the Google Map.

    The census shows that the older Stephen was born in County Galway, but cannot read. He can speak Irish and English.

    The census also shows that his wife Mary can read and write and can speak Irish and English. But the census also shows she is Stephen’s wife, but is “Not Married.” I think this information may have been transcribed incorrectly by someone at the National Archives, or maybe the handwriting in the census is difficult to read. Unlike the 1911 census, which shows that Mary was born in County Mayo, the 1901 census has her place of birth as Galway. See the census transcription at: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Galway/Galway_Urban/St…

    Make sure to select “Show all information” to view the full census page.

    A copy of the original 1901 census can be accessed at: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000807524/

    In the copy of the original 1901 census you can see that Mary’s marital status looks like an ink blotch, and is not readable.

    In the lower right corner of the form, Stephen signed the census with “his x mark,” signifying he could not write. The enumerator, whose name I couldn’t make out, witnessed Stephen’s signing with a x.

    THE MARRIAGE OF STEPHEN RUANE AND MARY NEVIN

    I next looked for Stephen Ruane and Mary Nevin at the irishgenealogy.ie website to see if I could find their marriage record. Your information shows they were married in the St. Nicholas Church in Galway.

    The primary reason I wanted to locate their marriage record was to see if their ages were recorded and to also learn what the names of their fathers were. With their ages and the names of the fathers, I would be able to see if I could find Stephen and Mary’s individual birth records, or perhaps even their baptism records. But, without knowing the first and maiden names of their mothers beforehand, any birth or baptism records I found would be circumstantial evidence, not direct evidence of the birth or baptism.

    I found their civil marriage record confirming their marriage took place in the “Roman Catholic Chapel of St. Nicholas” on 26 March 1899. At the time of marriage Stephen was a 28 year old bachelor and Mary and 26 year old spinster. Stephen’s occupation was “Tramdriver.” His residence at the time of marriage was Forster Street. His father is Stephen Ruane, who was alive at the time of the marriage, and who was a farmer.

    At the time of marriage Mary Nevin was a “Servant” who was living in a residence in Wood Quay, Galway City. Her father Thomas Nevin was still alive and employed as a labourer.

    The priest who married Stephen and Mary was Andrew J. Nestor, C.C. The initials C.C. stand for “Catholic Curate.” The first name of one of the witnesses to the marriage is John. His last name looks like it could be Badger, but it is difficult to tell because of the handwriting. He could not write as he signed the marriage register with “his x mark.” The other witness to the marriage was Mary King.

    Stephen Ruane also signed the register with “his x mark.” Mary Nevin signed with the full name. The marriage was recorded in the Galway Registration District by the Deputy Registrar, Thomas Lydon, who recorded the marriage on 31 March 1899.

    The marriage is the second entry in the register at number 216: https://tinyurl.com/5yr74x8t

    A Google Map shows that Forster Street is just a half mile east of Woodquay Street, Galway City: https://tinyurl.com/2p93mjc9

    For a Google Street View of Woodquay Street, Galway City, go to: https://tinyurl.com/bdf7zasd

    Stephen’s age of 28 when he married on 26 March 1899 places his year of birth in 1871, though if he had been born any time after 26 March, he would have actually turned 29 in 1899, bringing his year of birth to 1870.

    His age in the 1901 census is 30, which also places his year of birth in 1871. In the 1911 census he is 40 years old, again places his year of birth in 1871.

    After many years of Irish genealogical research I do not always trust the accuracy of a person’s age in marriage records, or in census records or death records. I’ve even found civil registration birth records, when compared to baptism records, show that the child was baptized before their recorded date of birth, and so I don’t always trust the accuracy of birth records either.

    With this in mind I searched for the birth of a Stephen Ruane who was born between 1864 and 1875, and whose father was also named Stephen. I found only one County Galway birth record during that time which shows that a Stephen Ruane was born in the townland of “Lisheen Kyle” on December 4, 1868. His father is Stephen Ruane, a labourer residing in Lisheen Kyle. His mother is Mary Noon. A lady named Margaret Noon was present at the birth and reported the birth to the registrar, Joseph Duggan, who recorded the birth in the Galway Registration District on December 22, 1868. Stephen’s birth is the first entry in the register at: https://tinyurl.com/3bbfr2cm

    Margaret Noon may have been Mary’s mother, sister, or perhaps sister-in-law.

    According to the IreAtlas Townland Data Base, there were two townlands named Lisheenkyle in the 19th century in Galway. These were Lisheenkyle East and Lisheenkyle West. Both were in the civil parish of Athenry. See:
    https://tinyurl.com/yeyk6zk2

    Stephen Ruane would have been born in either Lisheenkyle East or Lisheenkyle West.

    As noted above, Lisheenkyle East and West were located in the civil parish of Athenry. They were also situated in the Catholic Parish of Athenry, and so I went to the Find My Past (FMP) website to look for Stephen’s baptism transcription.

    FMP is primarily a subscription-based or Pay-As-You-Go website, with the exception that FMP does not charge to search Irish Catholic baptisms, marriages, and available church burial transcriptions for all of Ireland. Most of the parish registers cover the 19th century up to the early 1880s. But some Catholic registers in Ireland go back to the 18th and even 17th centuries.

    I located Stephen’s baptism transcription at the FMP website, showing he was baptized in the Athenry Catholic Parish on 30 November 1868. This is an example of a child’s baptism occurring before his recorded civil registration birth date, which was December 4, 1868. I tend to go with baptism records as being more accurate than civil birth records.

    The baptism transcription further shows that Stephen’s father is Stephen Ruane, and that his mother is Mary “Nam.” In this case I suspect the FMP person who transcribed the baptism from a copy of the original may have had a difficult time deciding what Mary’s maiden name was.

    See the transcription at: https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=IRE%2FPRS%2FBAP%2F4529086

    Attached to the baptism transcription is a link that takes you to a copy of the original Athenry baptism for Stephen Ruane. The original Catholic Parish baptisms, marriages, and available burial records are held by the National Library of Ireland, Kildare Street, Dublin City.

    You can access the original baptism page for Stephen at: https://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000631956#page/61/mode/1up

    There are two facing pages of the baptism register. Stephen’s baptism is the 2nd entry down the left-hand baptism register page.

    You can enlarge the register by means of round icons in the upper center/ right of the screen. The icons are white with green backgrounds. You can also access the full-screen function by clicking on the last icon on the right with the two arrows pointing northeast and southwest.

    The handwriting in the baptism register is difficult to read, and you can see why the FMP transcriber thought that Mary’s maiden name was Nam. The baptism record also shows two other names. These are Stephen’s godparents. The first name of the godfather is Denis. His last name looks like Relly or Velly. The godmother is Mary Egan - ? I couldn’t tell if her last name was also the same as the last name of the godfather. To the right of Mary Egan’s name are what appear to be the numerals 4 and 4. This means that Stephen Ruane and Mary Noon donated 4 Pence and 4 Shillings to the church as a donation for the baptism.

    A link at the National Library of Ireland website shows that Athenry Catholic baptisms are only available from 3 August 1858 to 21 September 1878. Marriages are available from 1821 to 1829, and then from 24 November 1858 to 1 October 1878. Go to the following National Library of Ireland link to see the availability of Athenry baptism and marriage records, and to also see a map of the Athenry Catholic Parish and surrounding Catholic parishes in County Galway: https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0103

    I next looked for the baptisms of any of Stephen’s siblings in the Athenry Catholic Parish and other Catholic parishes in County Galway, but found none. I also looked for Stephen Ruane and Mary Noon’s church marriage at the FMP website, but didn’t find it.

    I then looked for their civil registration birth record at the irishgenealogy.ie website, but without results.

    Civil registration of births, marriages, and deaths for all religious denominations began in Ireland in 1864, and so if Stephen Ruane and Mary Noon were married before 1864, there won’t be a civil marriage record for them.

    I can’t tell for certain if the Stephen Ruane baptized in 1868 in the Stephen Ruane in your direct line. Without knowing the maiden name of his mother beforehand, the 1868 birth record for Stephen can be looked upon as circumstantial evidence that he might be in your direct Ruane line in County Galway.

    MARY NEVIN

    The challenge with finding more background information about Mary Nevin is the same challenge with locating more information about Stephen Ruane. That is, not knowing the first and maiden names of Mary’s mother.

    In the 1899 marriage record for Stephen Ruane and Mary Nevin, Mary’s age is 26 years old, placing her year of birth in 1873. The marriage record also shows that her father was Thomas Nevin, who was still alive.

    In the 1901 census, Mary is 25 years old, placing her year of birth in 1876. The 1901 census also records that she was born in county Galway.

    In the 1911 census Mary is 39 years old, placing her year of birth in 1872. But, the 1911 census has County Mayo as her place of birth, not County Galway.

    The search for Mary’s civil registration birth record at the irishgenealogy.ie website was inconclusive. I had also looked for her birth under the alternate spelling “Navin,” “Navan,” but again could not pinpoint a birth record for Mary between the years 1870 and 1877.

    Going to the FMP website, I did find the baptism transcription for a Mary Nevin. She was baptized in the Killimore and Tiranascragh Catholic Parish, County Galway, on 19 June 1871. Her father is Thomas Nevin. Her mother is Bridget Madden. See the transcription at: https://www.findmypast.com/transcript?id=IRE%2FPRS%2FBAP%2F0041623

    A copy of Mary’s original baptism record can be found on the left-hand register page, 4th entry up from the bottom at: https://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632945#page/58/mode/1up

    The name of Mary’s godfather appears to be Michael Mullen. The name of her godmother looks like E. Horan.

    There is no way of determining, without more information about her, if this is the Mary Nevin who married Stephen Ruane in Galway City in 1899.

    With Kind Regards,

    Dave Boylan

    davepat

    Wednesday 16th February 2022 04:23AM
  • Hello John,

    I’m not related but saw your message at Ireland Reaching Out’s, “St Nicholas (Galway) Reaching Out – new additions this week.”

    I found information about the younger Stephen Ruane that you may be interested in. In just a bit you’ll be able to access a free copy of his civil registration birth record from the irishgenealogy.ie website by clicking on the link that is coming up.

    As you’ll see the birth record shows that Stephen was born in Knock, Galway, on 17 April 1900. His father is Stephen Ruane, of Galway, employed as a “Tram Driver.” His mother is Mary Ruane, formerly “Neavin.” Mary, whose residence was Knock, reported the birth to the registrar, Martin Semple. Martin Semple recorded the birth in the Ballinrobe Registration District on 5 May 1900. Go to the following link and follow the prompts to access Stephen’s birth record: https://tinyurl.com/n86zh8n4

    There are several townlands in County Galway called Knock, but without more specific information I can’t tell which Knock townland that Stephen was actually born in.

    Sometime after the 1911 census the younger Stephen Ruane moved to England, as I found him and his wife Ethel living in Paddington, London, in a collection from Ancestry.com entitled, “1939 England and Wales Register.”

    The 1939 register shows that Stephen and Ethel were living at an address of 32 Delamere Tce in Paddington. I believe that the initials Tce stand for Terrace, and so the address would be 32 Delamere Terrace, Paddington. Stephen’s date of birth is 17 April 1900, which is the same date on his Irish birth record. The register also shows that Stephen was employed as a “Railway Porter.”

    His wife Ethel was born on 13 April 1891. Her occupation was “Household Duties (Unpaid).”

    The individual indexes for Stephen and Ethel in the 1939 England and Wales Register are below. As mentioned above, the Register was found at the Ancestry.com website. The original 1939 England and Wales Registers are held by the National Archives, Kew, Surrey, London:

    1939 England and Wales Register

    Name: Stephen Ruane
    Gender: Male
    Marital Status: Married
    Birth Date: 17 Apr 1900
    Residence Date: 1939
    Address: 32 Delamere Tce
    Residence Place: Paddington, London, England
    Occupation: Railway Porter
    Line Number: 9
    Schedule Number: 78
    Sub Schedule Number: 1
    Enumeration District: APBM
    Borough: Paddington
    Inferred Spouse: Ethel Ruane

    Household Members, Age
    Stephen Ruane 39
    Ethel Ruane 48

    1939 England and Wales Register

    Name: Ethel Ruane
    Gender: Female
    Marital Status: Married
    Birth Date: 13 Apr 1891
    Residence Date: 1939
    Address: 32 Delamere Tce
    Residence Place: Paddington, London, England
    Occupation: Household Duties (Unpaid)
    Line Number: 10
    Schedule Number: 78
    Sub Schedule Number: 2
    Enumeration District: APBM
    Borough: Paddington
    Inferred Spouse: Stephen Ruane

    Household Members, Age
    Stephen Ruane 39
    Ethel Ruane 48

    Source Information
    Ancestry.com. 1939 England and Wales Register [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2018.

    Original data: Crown copyright images reproduced by courtesy of TNA, London England. 1939 Register (Series RG101), The National Archives, Kew, London, England. The National Archives give no warranty as to the accuracy, completeness or fitness for the purpose of the information provided. Images may be used only for purposes of research, private study or education. Applications for any other use should be made to The National Archives Image Library, Kew, Richmond, Surrey TW9 4DU, Tel: 020 8392 5225. Fax: 020 8392 5266.
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    I’d like to send you an attachment of the original 1939 England and Wales Register, but there is no place provided in the Ireland Reaching Out reply section to do this. If you can provide your email address in a follow-up reply to Ireland Reaching Out, I’ll send the attachment as soon as I receive your return message.

    Another collection at Ancestry.com called, “London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965,” gives Stephen and Ethel Ruane’s address as 20 Delamere Crescent, rather than Delamere Terrace for the year 1935.

    See below:

    London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965

    Name: Stephen Ruane
    Electoral Date: 1935
    Street Address: 20 Delamere Crescent
    Ward or Division/Constituency: Paddington
    County or Borough: Westminster, England

    Name: Ethel Ruane
    Electoral Date: 1935
    Street Address: 20 Delamere Crescent
    Ward or Division/Constituency: Paddington
    County or Borough: Westminster, England

    Source Information
    Ancestry.com. London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010.

    Original data: Electoral Registers. London, England: London Metropolitan Archives.
    Images produced by permission of the City of London Corporation Libraries, Archives and Guildhall Art Gallery Department.
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    I didn’t find a Delamere Crescent in London, but did locate Delamere Terrace and a Delamere Street on a Google Map, which you can view at: https://tinyurl.com/59s9f32h

    Not labeled on the map is the name of the canal that runs parallel to Delamere Terrace. This is The Grand Union Canal.

    For two Google Street Views of a shade covered Delamere Terrace, see: https://tinyurl.com/mryuyf2e and https://tinyurl.com/2p8mt27h

    An index from Ancestry.com shows that the marriage of Stephen Ruane and Ethel Edwards was recorded in the Paddington, London Registration District in the June quarter of 1931. See the index below:

    England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005

    Name: Stephen Ruane
    Registration Date: Apr 1931
    Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
    Registration District: Paddington
    Inferred County: London
    Spouse: Ethel Edwards
    Volume Number: 1a
    Page Number: 124

    Source Citation
    General Register Office; United Kingdom; Volume: 1a; Page: 124

    Source Information
    Ancestry.com. England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc, 2010.
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    A copy of the original marriage record for Stephen and Ethel will provide a lot more information that the index you see above. For example the marriage record should tell you the exact date and place of marriage, ages of the groom and bride, if either had been previously married, their occupations as well as their residence when they married. The names of their fathers and father’s occupations should also be recorded along with the names of the witnesses to the marriage.

    The General Register Office (GRO) in Southport, England, holds civil registration birth, marriage, and death records from the September quarter of 1837.

    The marriage index for Stephen and Ethel above shows their marriage was recorded in the Paddington Registration District for the June quarter of 1931, and that the marriage can be found in Volume 1a, Page 124 of the marriage registers held by the GRO.

    For ordering information and costs about birth, marriage, and death certificates from the GRO, go to: https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/login.asp

    You’ll have to register with the GRO to order certificates.

    The 1939 England and Wales Register shows that Ethel Ruane was born on 13 April 1891, which would place her age at 40 years old when she married in 1931.

    At her age of 40 at the time of marriage in 1931, I didn't expect that Ethel and Stephen would have had many children, if any.

    I looked for the GRO birth indexes for their children from 1931 to 1941 at the FreeBMD website but found none.

    Back at Ancestry.com I found Stephen Ruane in a collection called, " UK, Railway Employment Records, 1833-1956.” This is an index, not a copy of the original record. The index shows that Stephen’s residence date is 5 December 1938. The next year Stephen and Ethel would be recorded in the 1939 England and Wales Register.

    The Railway Employment Record index is below, and provides the additional information that Stephen’s date of birth is 17 April 1900, his age is 38, the station where he was assigned was Marylebone in London, and the company he worked for the London and North Eastern Railway.

    The index follows:

    UK, Railway Employment Records, 1833-1956

    Name: Stephan Ruane
    Age: 38
    Birth Date: 17 Apr1900
    Residence Date: 5 Dec1938
    Station: Marylebone
    Company: London and North Eastern
    Description: Returns of staff at stations and depots as at 31 oct. 1939

    Ancestry.com. UK, Railway Employment Records, 1833-1956 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.

    Original data: Railway Employment Records. Kew, Surrey, England: The National Archives. Data imaged from the National Archives, London, England. The National Archives gives no warranty as to the accuracy, completeness or fitness for the purpose of the information provided. Images may be used only for purposes of research, private study or education. Applications for any other use should be made to the National Archives, Kew, Richmond, Surrey TW9 4DU.
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    If you provide your email address in a follow-up reply I can send you a copy of the original railway employment record for Stephen Ruane.

    For more information about the London and North Eastern Railway, see the Wikipedia article at:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_and_North_Eastern_Railway

    Going back to the electoral registers at Ancestry.com, I found that by the year 1949 Stephen and Ethel Ruane were living at Bloomfield Place, Paddington, London.

    See below:

    London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965

    Name: Stephen Ruane
    Electoral Date: 1949
    Ward or Division/Constituency: Paddington
    Street: Bloomfield Place
    County or Borough: Westminster, England

    Name: Ethel Ruane
    Electoral Date: 1949
    Ward or Division/Constituency: Paddington
    Street: Bloomfield Place
    County or Borough: Westminster, England

    Source Information
    Ancestry.com. London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010.

    Original data: Electoral Registers. London, England: London Metropolitan Archives. Images produced by permission of the City of London Corporation Libraries, Archives and Guildhall Art Gallery Department.
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    A Google Map shows that Bloomfield Place is 2.8 miles east of Delamere Terrace, Paddington: https://tinyurl.com/y8cscxhn

    For a Google Street View of Bloomfield Place, see: https://tinyurl.com/mste5e6v

    Stephen Ruane died the year after he was recorded in the 1949 Electoral Registers. The Ancestry.com website shows his death took place in October 1950 and is recorded in the Paddington Registration District for the December quarter of 1950. At the time of death Stephen was 50 years old, placing his year of birth in 1900.

    See the index below:

    England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007

    Name: Stephen Ruane
    Death Age: 50
    Birth Date: abt 1900
    Registration Date: Oct 1950
    Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
    Registration District: Paddington
    Inferred County: London
    Volume: 5d
    Page: 140

    Source Citation
    General Register Office; United Kingdom; Volume: 5d; Page: 140

    Source Information
    Ancestry.com. England & Wales, Civil Registration
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    Stephen’s death record can be found in Volume 5d, Page 140 of the GRO registers. You can order his full death record from the GRO.

    I next located the death index for Stephen’s wife Ethel at the FreeBMD website. Her death was recorded in the Llanfyllin (Wales) Registration District in the March quarter of 1972. The index further shows that Ethels date of birth was 13 April 1891, which is the same date of birth found in the 1939 England and Wales Register noted above.

    The index is below:

    Death March Quarter 1972
    Ethel Ruane
    Date of Birth: 13 April 1891
    Registration District: Llanfyllin
    Volume: 8c
    Page: 1681
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    Ethel’s full death record can be found in Volume 8c, Page 1681 of the GRO registers.

    Why Ethel made her way from London to Llanfyllin, Wales is unknown. According to a Wkipedia article, Llanfyllin is a “sparsely populated” section of Wales: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llanfyllin

    A Google Map shows that Llanfyllin, Wales, is almost 200 miles northwest of Delamere Terrace and Bloomfield Place in London: https://tinyurl.com/2p9fbpc2

    For Google Street Views of Llanfyllin, see: https://tinyurl.com/yc4trvv8 and https://tinyurl.com/5h9aceks

    If I knew the name of Ethel’s father and mother, I would be able to look for more information about her, particularly in the 1901 and 1911 England census returns, and in the GRO birth records for the June quarter of 1891.

    Indexes at the GRO website shows the births of 12 children named Ethel Edwards in the June quarter of 1891. Two of them were recorded in London, but I don’t know if Ethel was born in London or not.

    John, if you order the marriage record for Stephen Ruane and Ethel Edwards, please let me know the name of Ethel’s father, and I’ll see if I can find more information about her, if you are interested.

    THE FAMILY OF STEPHEN RUANE IN IRELAND

    Going back to Irish records I looked for Stephen and Mary Ruane and their children in the 1911 census at the National Archives of Ireland’s search engine at:
    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/

    The 1911 census was taken on Sunday, 2 April. The ages of people in the census were ages from their last birthday, not the birthday coming up.

    I found that 40 year old Stephen and 39 year old Mary and four of their children were the “Residents of a house 2.1 in Middle Street (Galway East, Urban, Galway).”

    The census shows that all in the family were Roman Catholic, and that Stephen and the children were born in County Galway, but that Stephen’s wife Mary was born in County Mayo. Stephen’s occupation is “Tram Driver.”

    The census line for Mary shows that as of 1911 she and Stephen had been married for 12 years and in that time had 5 children, with 4 children still living. In your Ireland Reaching Out post you had mentioned four children, including Sarah, Stephen, Mary Margaret, and Michael. These four children are in the household with their parents in the 1911 census, with Stephen being the oldest at age 11, followed by 9 year old May M., 6 year old Mary G., and 2 year old Michael T. Stephen, Mary, and Sarah are shown to be “Scholars,” that is, students.

    The census shows the father Stephen Ruane could not read but could speak Irish and English. His wife Mary and son Stephen are shown to be able to read and write and speak both Irish and English. Daughter Mary could read and write, and Sarah could read.

    The 1911 census transcription of the Ruane household can be found at the National Archives of Ireland link at:
    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Galway/Galway_East__Urb...

    Once the census page downloads, make sure you click on “Show all information” to view the full census page from left to right. If you do not click on “Show all information,” you will not be able to see the section of the census telling you that Stephen and Mary were married for 12 years and that they had five children with four children still living.

    You can view a copy of the original 1911 census for the Ruane family at:
    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003939987/

    In the bottom left corner of the census you’ll see that the father, Stephen Ruane, signed with his signature. To the left of his name is the name of the enumerator who collected the census from the Ruane family. The enumerator is also a constable. His name is Daniel Lyons.

    Information from the 1911 census showing that Stephen and Mary had five children, with one child deceased, prompted me to look for the civil registration birth records for all the children born after Stephen in 1900. I especially wanted to locate the birth and death records for the child who did not live long enough to be counted in the 1911 census.

    I looked for the birth records and the death record at the irishgenealogy.ie website.

    THE BIRTH OF MARY MARGARET RUANE

    As you know the child born after Stephen was Mary Margaret Ruane. Her birth took place on 15 February 1902. Her birthplace was St. Patrick’s Avenue, Galway City. Her father is Stephen Ruane, a “Tram Driver” living on St. Patrick’s Avenue. Her mother is Mary Ruane, formerly Nevin. Anne Mahoney was present at the birth and reported the birth to the assistant registrar, Thomas Lyon. Anne Mahoney’s residence was Bohermore. Thomas Lydon recorded Mary Margaret’s birth in the Galway Registration District on 19 February 1902. Mary Margaret’s birth is the last one in the register, number 85, at: https://tinyurl.com/2vswba32

    Anne Mahoney could have been the midwife who helped to deliver Mary Margaret.

    THE BIRTH OF SARAH JOSEPHINE RUANE

    Sarah Josephine Ruane’s birth took place on St. Patrick’s “Street,” Galway City, on 23 October 1904. Her father is Stephen Ruane, a Tram Driver of St. Patrick’s Street. Sarah’s mother is Mary Ruane, formerly Nevin. Sarah Nugent of Prospect Hill, Galway City, was present at the birth and reported the birth to the assistant registrar, Thomas Lydon, who recorded the birth in the Galway Registration District on 29 October 1904. Sarah’s birth is the last entry in the register at number 183: https://tinyurl.com/2p9bwd8u

    I could not find a St. Patrick’s “Street” in Galway City, which means the assistant registrar, Thomas Lydon, probably made an error recording Sarah’s birth in St. Patrick’s Street, rather than St. Patrick’s Avenue..

    THE BIRTH OF ANNIE RUANE

    Annie is the child who didn’t live to be recorded in the 1911 census. Her birth at Forster Street, Galway City, took place on 20 November 1906. Her father is Stephen Ruane a Tram Driver of Forster Street. Her mother is Mary Ruane, formerly Nevin. Anne Mahoney of Bohermore was present at the birth and reported the birth to the assistant registrar, Thomas Lydon. Thomas Lydon recorded Annie’s birth in the Galway Registration District on 24 November 1906. Annie’s birth is number 162 in the register at: https://tinyurl.com/2hxhmeka

    THE DEATH OF ANNIE RUANE

    Annie died on 28 August 1907 at the age of 9 months. The place of death was Prospect Hill. She is shown to have been the “Daughter of a Tram Driver.” The cause of death was Diphtheria 5 Days.” Annie’s mother, Mary Ruane of Prospect Hill, reported the death to the assistant registrar, Thomas Lydon, who recorded the death in the Galway Registration District on 5 October 1907. Annie’s death is the first entry in the register at number 226: https://tinyurl.com/2p8vsvca

    Mary signed the death register with “her x mark,” indicating that she could not write, but the 1911 census shows that she could read and write.

    BIRTH OF MICHAEL THOMAS RUANE

    Michael’s birth on Prospect Hill, Galway City, took place on 18 September 1908. His father is Stephen Ruane, a Tram Driver of Prospect Hill. Thomas’s mother is Mary Ruane, formerly Nevin. Sarah Nugent of Prospect Hill was present at the birth and reported the birth to the registrar, Thomas Lydon, who recorded the birth in the Galway Registration District on 26 September 1907. Michael’s birth is the last entry in the register at: https://tinyurl.com/s3vznf6u

    A Google Map shows that St. Patrick’s Avenue, Prospect Hill, and Forster Street are not far from Eyre Square in Galway City: https://tinyurl.com/2p8d68u7

    For a Google Street View of St. Patrick’s Avenue from Eyre Square, see: https://tinyurl.com/me7bpm9n

    For a Google Street View of Prospect Hill, Galway City, go to: https://tinyurl.com/mhyku78k

    A Google Street View of Forster Street can be found at: https://tinyurl.com/2p8fm8h7

    THE 1901 CENSUS

    Going back in time I found 30 year old Stephen and 29 year old Mary Ruane in the 1901 census transcription at the National Archives of Ireland link. The 1901 census transcription shows that Stephen and Mary’s son Stephen is in the household, but no age is given for him in the transcription. This usually means that a child is under the age of 1, but that his age in months will be recorded in the original census.

    Stephen, Mary, and Stephen are shown to be the " Residents of a house 5 in St. Patrick's Avenue (Galway Urban, Galway).” They would have lived across from Eyre Square, as noted on the Google Map.

    The census shows that the older Stephen was born in County Galway, but cannot read. He can speak Irish and English.

    The census also shows that his wife Mary can read and write and can speak Irish and English. But the census also shows she is Stephen’s wife, but is “Not Married.” I think this information may have been transcribed incorrectly by someone at the National Archives, or maybe the handwriting in the census is difficult to read. Unlike the 1911 census, which shows that Mary was born in County Mayo, the 1901 census has her place of birth as Galway. See the census transcription at: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Galway/Galway_Urban/St_...

    Make sure to select “Show all information” to view the full census page.

    A copy of the original 1901 census can be accessed at: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000807524/

    In the copy of the original 1901 census you can see that Mary’s marital status looks like an ink blotch, and is not readable.

    In the lower right corner of the form, Stephen signed the census with “his x mark,” signifying he could not write. The enumerator, whose name I couldn’t make out, witnessed Stephen’s signing with a x.

    THE MARRIAGE OF STEPHEN RUANE AND MARY NEVIN

    I next looked for Stephen Ruane and Mary Nevin at the irishgenealogy.ie website to see if I could find their marriage record. Your information shows they were married in the St. Nicholas Church in Galway.

    The primary reason I wanted to locate their marriage record was to see if their ages were recorded and to also learn what the names of their fathers were. With their ages and the names of the fathers, I would be able to see if I could find Stephen and Mary’s individual birth records, or perhaps even their baptism records. But, without knowing the first and maiden names of their mothers beforehand, any birth or baptism records I found would be circumstantial evidence, not direct evidence of the birth or baptism.

    I found their civil marriage record confirming their marriage took place in the “Roman Catholic Chapel of St. Nicholas” on 26 March 1899. At the time of marriage Stephen was a 28 year old bachelor and Mary and 26 year old spinster. Stephen’s occupation was “Tramdriver.” His residence at the time of marriage was Forster Street. His father is Stephen Ruane, who was alive at the time of the marriage, and who was a farmer.

    At the time of marriage Mary Nevin was a “Servant” who was living in a residence in Wood Quay, Galway City. Her father Thomas Nevin was still alive and employed as a labourer.

    The priest who married Stephen and Mary was Andrew J. Nestor, C.C. The initials C.C. stand for “Catholic Curate.” The first name of one of the witnesses to the marriage is John. His last name looks like it could be Badger, but it is difficult to tell because of the handwriting. He could not write as he signed the marriage register with “his x mark.” The other witness to the marriage was Mary King.

    Stephen Ruane also signed the register with “his x mark.” Mary Nevin signed with the full name. The marriage was recorded in the Galway Registration District by the Deputy Registrar, Thomas Lydon, who recorded the marriage on 31 March 1899.

    The marriage is the second entry in the register at number 216: https://tinyurl.com/5yr74x8t

    A Google Map shows that Forster Street is just a half mile east of Woodquay Street, Galway City: https://tinyurl.com/2p93mjc9

    For a Google Street View of Woodquay Street, Galway City, go to: https://tinyurl.com/bdf7zasd

    Stephen’s age of 28 when he married on 26 March 1899 places his year of birth in 1871, though if he had been born any time after 26 March, he would have actually turned 29 in 1899, bringing his year of birth to 1870.

    His age in the 1901 census is 30, which also places his year of birth in 1871. In the 1911 census he is 40 years old, again places his year of birth in 1871.

    After many years of Irish genealogical research I do not always trust the accuracy of a person’s age in marriage records, or in census records or death records. I’ve even found civil registration birth records, when compared to baptism records, show that the child was baptized before their recorded date of birth, and so I don’t always trust the accuracy of birth records either.

    With this in mind I searched for the birth of a Stephen Ruane who was born between 1864 and 1875, and whose father was also named Stephen. I found only one County Galway birth record during that time which shows that a Stephen Ruane was born in the townland of “Lisheen Kyle” on December 4, 1868. His father is Stephen Ruane, a labourer residing in Lisheen Kyle. His mother is Mary Noon. A lady named Margaret Noon was present at the birth and reported the birth to the registrar, Joseph Duggan, who recorded the birth in the Galway Registration District on December 22, 1868. Stephen’s birth is the first entry in the register at: https://tinyurl.com/3bbfr2cm

    Margaret Noon may have been Mary’s mother, sister, or perhaps sister-in-law.

    According to the IreAtlas Townland Data Base, there were two townlands named Lisheenkyle in the 19th century in Galway. These were Lisheenkyle East and Lisheenkyle West. Both were in the civil parish of Athenry. See:
    https://tinyurl.com/yeyk6zk2

    Stephen Ruane would have been born in either Lisheenkyle East or Lisheenkyle West.

    As noted above, Lisheenkyle East and West were located in the civil parish of Athenry. They were also situated in the Catholic Parish of Athenry, and so I went to the Find My Past (FMP) website to look for Stephen’s baptism transcription.

    FMP is primarily a subscription-based or Pay-As-You-Go website, with the exception that FMP does not charge to search Irish Catholic baptisms, marriages, and available church burial transcriptions for all of Ireland. Most of the parish registers cover the 19th century up to the early 1880s. But some Catholic registers in Ireland go back to the 18th and even 17th centuries.

    I located Stephen’s baptism transcription at the FMP website, showing he was baptized in the Athenry Catholic Parish on 30 November 1868. This is an example of a child’s baptism occurring before his recorded civil registration birth date, which was December 4, 1868. I tend to go with baptism records as being more accurate than civil birth records.

    The baptism transcription further shows that Stephen’s father is Stephen Ruane, and that his mother is Mary “Nam.” In this case I suspect the FMP person who transcribed the baptism from a copy of the original may have had a difficult time deciding what Mary’s maiden name was.

    See the transcription at: https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=IRE%2FPRS%2FBAP%2F4529086

    Attached to the baptism transcription is a link that takes you to a copy of the original Athenry baptism for Stephen Ruane. The original Catholic Parish baptisms, marriages, and available burial records are held by the National Library of Ireland, Kildare Street, Dublin City.

    You can access the original baptism page for Stephen at: https://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000631956#page/61/mode/1up

    There are two facing pages of the baptism register. Stephen’s baptism is the 2nd entry down the left-hand baptism register page.

    You can enlarge the register by means of round icons in the upper center/ right of the screen. The icons are white with green backgrounds. You can also access the full-screen function by clicking on the last icon on the right with the two arrows pointing northeast and southwest.

    The handwriting in the baptism register is difficult to read, and you can see why the FMP transcriber thought that Mary’s maiden name was Nam. The baptism record also shows two other names. These are Stephen’s godparents. The first name of the godfather is Denis. His last name looks like Relly or Velly. The godmother is Mary Egan - ? I couldn’t tell if her last name was also the same as the last name of the godfather. To the right of Mary Egan’s name are what appear to be the numerals 4 and 4. This means that Stephen Ruane and Mary Noon donated 4 Pence and 4 Shillings to the church as a donation for the baptism.

    A link at the National Library of Ireland website shows that Athenry Catholic baptisms are only available from 3 August 1858 to 21 September 1878. Marriages are available from 1821 to 1829, and then from 24 November 1858 to 1 October 1878. Go to the following National Library of Ireland link to see the availability of Athenry baptism and marriage records, and to also see a map of the Athenry Catholic Parish and surrounding Catholic parishes in County Galway: https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0103

    I next looked for the baptisms of any of Stephen’s siblings in the Athenry Catholic Parish and other Catholic parishes in County Galway, but found none. I also looked for Stephen Ruane and Mary Noon’s church marriage at the FMP website, but didn’t find it.

    I then looked for their civil registration birth record at the irishgenealogy.ie website, but without results.

    Civil registration of births, marriages, and deaths for all religious denominations began in Ireland in 1864, and so if Stephen Ruane and Mary Noon were married before 1864, there won’t be a civil marriage record for them.

    I can’t tell for certain if the Stephen Ruane baptized in 1868 in the Stephen Ruane in your direct line. Without knowing the maiden name of his mother beforehand, the 1868 birth record for Stephen can be looked upon as circumstantial evidence that he might be in your direct Ruane line in County Galway.

    MARY NEVIN

    The challenge with finding more background information about Mary Nevin is the same challenge with locating more information about Stephen Ruane. That is, not knowing the first and maiden names of Mary’s mother.

    In the 1899 marriage record for Stephen Ruane and Mary Nevin, Mary’s age is 26 years old, placing her year of birth in 1873. The marriage record also shows that her father was Thomas Nevin, who was still alive.

    In the 1901 census, Mary is 25 years old, placing her year of birth in 1876. The 1901 census also records that she was born in county Galway.

    In the 1911 census Mary is 39 years old, placing her year of birth in 1872. But, the 1911 census has County Mayo as her place of birth, not County Galway.

    The search for Mary’s civil registration birth record at the irishgenealogy.ie website was inconclusive. I had also looked for her birth under the alternate spelling “Navin,” “Navan,” but again could not pinpoint a birth record for Mary between the years 1870 and 1877.

    Going to the FMP website, I did find the baptism transcription for a Mary Nevin. She was baptized in the Killimore and Tiranascragh Catholic Parish, County Galway, on 19 June 1871. Her father is Thomas Nevin. Her mother is Bridget Madden. See the transcription at: https://www.findmypast.com/transcript?id=IRE%2FPRS%2FBAP%2F0041623

    A copy of Mary’s original baptism record can be found on the left-hand register page, 4th entry up from the bottom at: https://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632945#page/58/mode/1up

    The name of Mary’s godfather appears to be Michael Mullen. The name of her godmother looks like E. Horan.

    There is no way of determining, without more information about her, if this is the Mary Nevin who married Stephen Ruane in Galway City in 1899.

    With Kind Regards,

    Dave Boylan

    davepat

    Thursday 17th February 2022 01:50PM
  •  

    Hi Dave,

    How can I begin to Thank You for all the wonderful information you have given us and links you have also added to help us even more tracing our families roots, myself and my family are so grateful as you have certainly went above and beyond. My family visited Dublin & Galway for a few days before Covid hit, and although we managed to visit 2 of the Ruane family homes and visit the newer St Nicholas Parish were we thought their Baptism & Marriage records might be held, we were informed that the records would have been held at the old St Nicholas Parish that had been demolished many years ago. We were told that they were probably now held at St Patricks Parish in Galway, but as we didn't have time to visit, a very kind lady from St Nicholas gave me the email address of the Parish Priest whom I contacted as soon as I got home to Scotland. He sent me the loveliest email with some fantastic information. I intend to visit Galway again and hopefully for longer once it's a bit safer to travel, but you have certainly given me areas I can now look into and hopefully research back even further, fingers crossed. In the meantime can I ask if your site takes donations to help you with the wonderful work that you all do ?

    Thank You So Much Again

    John

     

    Lyncgal

    Tuesday 22nd February 2022 05:41PM
  • Ooops, sorry Dave meant to copy in my wife's email address as she is compiling all the information of both our Ancestors. Her email is - lyndacmcgall@mac.com. My wife's family all originated in Ireland also names - "Collins, Tierney, Miller, Cavanagh" But none are unfortunately from Galway.

    Thank Again

    John

     

     

    Lyncgal

    Tuesday 22nd February 2022 05:51PM
  • Hi Dave on reading all the information again I noticed that you weren't 100% sure that the Stephen Ruane who was born in 1868 in Galway was the correct member of my family tree and also Mary Nevin's mother's name possibly being Bridget Madden. I can confirm that Stephen Ruane born 1868 is the correct Stephen as him and his wife came to Scotland with 3 of their children in the early 1920's and died in Scotland and we have a copy of their death certificates. Also Mary Nevin's Mother isn't Bridget Madden her name is Sarah Lydon as we got this information from Mary Nevin's death certificate here in Scotland. I know that in England certain certificates only have the Fathers name, not sure about in Ireland, but here in Scotland we have both parents names, which is really helpful.I can also confirm that the details of Stephen Ruane born 1868 death certificate shows his father Stephen a Farmer was married to Mary Noon. It is this Stephen Ruane and his wife Mary Noon and also Sarah Josephine's older brother Stephen we are struggling to find more about. We are hoping to find out were they are both buried in Ireland and also young Stephen we had an idea through a family conversation that he had lived, married and died in England but on the Find My Past Website the census from 1921 now available, shows a Stephen Ruane being held prisoner in Wormwood Scrubs in 1921 and we are trying to find some information to confirm that this is the correct Stephen Ruane, how and why he ended up in prison and if it was him who stayed at Rowton House London in 1922 as the Birth dates seem to match i.e. April 1900. Any ideas on how this information can be confirmed would be fantastic.

    Thanks Again

    John

    Lyncgal

    Tuesday 22nd February 2022 11:54PM
  • Hello John,

    Many thanks for your kind reply. It is very much appreciated.

    In full disclosure, I am not a registered volunteer with Ireland Reaching Out, but a freelance researcher who from time to time likes to see what information I can find to help people search for their Irish ancestors.

    I think I can speak on behalf of all the staff and volunteers at Ireland Reaching Out however, by stating that a donation in any amount would be most appreciated. Donations can be made at the following: https://irelandxo.com/donate

    I have been researching my own Irish ancestors for many years, and started this journey long before any information came online. My ancestors were from counties Cavan, Kerry, Limerick, and Roscommon, and left Ireland either during, or following the Great Famine of 1845 to 1851. It is estimated by some historians that from 1845 to 1851, a million people left Ireland for England, the U.S., Canada, and Australia. Another one million people are estimated to have died of starvation and disease during the same time period.

    Based on the additional information you provided in your reply, I found the civil marriage record for Mary Navin’s parents, Thomas “Navan” and Sarah Lydon at the irishgenealogy.ie website. In the marriage record however, Sarah goes by the nickname of Sally.

    They were married in the Catholic Chapel at Cong. A portion of Cong is in County Galway, but the larger portion of the town is in County Mayo. The marriage took place on January 9, 1866. At the time of marriage Thomas was 28 year old bachelor and Sally a 20 year old spinster. Thomas is shown to be a Farmer living in Knock at the time of marriage. His father is John Navan, also working as a Labourer.

    Sally’s occupation was Labourer. At the time of marriage she was residing in the townland of Gurtacurra. Her father is Pat Lydon, a Labourer.

    The priest who married Thomas and Sally was John Heauy, or perhaps John Heavy.

    The witnesses to the marriage look like Thomas Varley and Bridget Malley. The witnesses signed the marriage register with “his x mark,” and “her x mark,” meaning they could not write.

    The groom and bride signed the register with “their x mark.” The marriage record is number 7 in the register which you can access after following the prompts at: https://tinyurl.com/2p8a2222

    In going over a Google Map of Mayo, I didn’t find a townland called Gurtacurra, but did locate a town called Gortacurra. I believe this was the town where Sally Lydon was from. There is also a townland called Knock in County Mayo, but this place is almost 30 miles northeast of Cong. Just to the east of Cong and north of Gortacurra however, are the townlands of Knock North and Knock South. I suspect that Thomas was from either Knock North or Knock South. A Google Map shows the locations of Cong, Gortacurra, Knock North and Knock South: https://tinyurl.com/bdcsk6dv

    Many of the outdoor scenes of John Ford’s “Quiet Man,” were filmed in and around the town of Cong and the nearby Ashford Castle. Most of the major characters in the movie, such as former boxer Sean Thornton, played by John Wayne, Mary Kate Danaher, played by Maureen O’Hara,” and Michaeline Oge Flynn, played by Barry Fitzgerald, were Roman Catholic. The scene where Sean Thornton and Mary Kate Danagher were “playing paddyfingers,” in the holy water however, was not filmed at the Catholic Church in Cong, but at the Church of Ireland, also located in Cong. It appears John Ford took some license with the religious aspects of the movie. Arthur Shields, who played the Church of Ireland Parish minister, the Rev. Playfair, was Barry Fitzgerald’s brother.

    A Google Street View shows the Cong Catholic Church on the left, though this looks like a more modern church and not the structure where Thomas and Sally would have been married. Just to the north of the church is the Cong Abbey, in ruins. Across the street from Cong abbey is the former Church of Ireland, also in ruins. This is not the Church of Ireland featured in the Quiet Man: https://tinyurl.com/3ysum2vy

    The Catholic Church in Cong is called St Mary of the Rosary Catholic Church, in the Parish of Cong and The Neale.

    For more information about Cong, see the Wikipedia article at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cong,_County_Mayo

    Also see a description of Cong from Lewis’s Topographical Dictionary of Ireland published in 1837:
    https://www.libraryireland.com/topog/C/Cong-Kilmaine-Mayo.php

    GRIFFITHS VALUATION

    The 9 January 1866 marriage record for Thomas Navan and Sally Lydon shows that Sally was from Gurtacurra, that is, Gortacurra, and that her father was Pat Lydon.

    I located her father Patrick “Lyden” in Gortacurra, civil parish of Cong, where he is recorded in an Irish property tax record known as Griffiths Valuation. Griffiths Valuation was recorded in the 32 counties of Ireland from 1847 to 1864. The valuation for Gortacurra and surrounding townlands and parishes in Mayo was completed by 1857. You can search Griffiths Valuation at the Ask About Ireland website: https://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml

    In Griffiths Valuation Patrick is shown to have leased a house and land. He leased the land in common with 19 other people in Gortacurra. The land was over 80 acres in size. The value of the section of land that Patrick leased was 1 Pound 1 Shilling. His house was valued at 6 Shillings. The total valuation for Patrick’s house and land was 1 Pound and 7 Shillings. He would not have been required to pay a tax on this property, as only those properties valued over 5 Pounds were subject to the tax.

    One of the other people who leased a portion of the land and a house in Gortacurra was Thomas Varley. As you saw earlier, Thomas Varley was a witness at the wedding of Thomas Navan and Sally Lydon.

    A year and 4 months after Thomas Navan and Sally Lydon were married, their daughter Mary was born. The birth of Mary Nevin took place in Knock on 13 May 1867. Her father is Thomas Nevin, a farmer living in Knock. Her mother is Sarah Nevin, formerly Lydon. Sarah, Mary’s mother, of Knock, reported the birth to the registrar, Campbell Fair, who recorded the birth in the Ballinrobe Registration District on 28 May 1867. Mary’s birth is the first entry in the register, number 115 at: https://tinyurl.com/y8zx5n8r

    The child born after Mary was Patrick. “Pat” Navin was born in Knock on 8 March 1869. His father is Thomas Navin, a “Landholder,” from Knock. Patrick’s mother is Sally Navin, formerly Lydon. The person who was present at the birth and who reported the birth to the registrar was Catherine Navin, of Knock. The registrar, P.B. Reynolds, recorded the birth in the Ballinrobe Registration District on 16 March 1869. Patrick’s birth is number 435 in the register at: https://tinyurl.com/4sc9ndbf

    After Patrick came Thomas Nevin. He was born in Knock on December 23 1871. His father Thomas Nevin of Knock was a landholder.” Thomas’s mother is Sally Nevin, formerly Lydon. Sally reported the birth to the deputy registrar, B. Browne, who recorded the birth in the Ballinrobe Registration District on January 30, 1872. Thomas’s birth entry is number 449 in the register at: https://tinyurl.com/f9yhrnr6

    I didn’t find the civil registration birth records for any more children of Thomas Nevin and Sarah/Sally Lydon, and I didn’t find baptism transcriptions for the children in the Cong and The Neale Catholic Parish, or any of the surrounding Catholic parishes in County Mayo and County Galway. Information at the National Library of Ireland website shows that Cong and The Neale baptisms are available from 28 February 1897 to 11 May 1881. No church marriage records are available for any time period. See: https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/1058

    But what I did uncover was that Thomas and Sarah had another son whose birth record I wasn’t able to locate at the irishgenealogy.ie website. I also discovered which townland named Knock the family had lived in.

    The 1901 census shows that 60 year old “Tho’s” Nevin, his 61 year old wife Sarah, and their 24 year old son Michael were the “Residents of a house 3 in Knock North (Cong, Mayo).”

    From the 1901 census we now know the family had lived in Knock North, and in addition to their children Mary, Patrick, and Thomas, had a son named Michael.

    For the 1901 census transcription from the National Archives of Ireland, see:
    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Mayo/Cong/Knock_North/…

    The census shows that all the family members were Roman Catholic. After you tick the box “Show all information," you’ll see that Thomas was a farmer who could not read but who could speak Irish and English. Sarah could not read either but could also speak Irish and English. Their son Michael is a “Farmer’s Son” who could read and write and speak Irish and English. Michael is shown to be single. All tree in the family were born in County Mayo.

    For a copy of the original 1901 census go to: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001065973/

    In the lower right corner of the census you’ll see, “Thos his x mark Nevin” signed the census witnessed by constable and enumerator, Wm Pogue.

    The 1901 census index shows only two other surnames recorded in Knock North. These are the surnames Haire and Cullinan. See:
    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Mayo/Cong/Knock_North/

    By the 1911 census Sarah Navin is shown to be a 75 year old widow and a farmer who could not read, but could speak Irish and English. She, her two sons, and her grandson are shown to be the “Residents of a house 2 in Knock, North (Cong, Mayo).”

    Sarah’s adult children in the household are 37 year old Thomas and 35 year old Michael, both general labourers who could read and write and speak Irish and English. Both were single,

    The surprise in the household is Sarah’s grandson, 10 year old Stephen Ruane, a Scholar who could read and write and also speak Irish and English.

    The 1911 census shows everyone in the household was born in County Mayo. See the census transcription at:
    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Mayo/Cong/Knock__North…

    Stephen Ruane in Sarah Navan’s household is the son of Stephen Ruane and Mary Nevin.

    In my previous reply I had stated that Stephen was born in County Galway, but going back to his 17 April 1900 birth record, I find that he was born in Knock, which would be the townland of Knock North in County Mayo. His mother Mary’s residence in the birth record is also Knock, but the birth record shows that Stephen’s father’s residence was Galway. The heading of the birth register page also states that the births on the page were recorded in the District of Cong and Union of Ballinrobe, County Mayo.

    Stephen, as you saw in the previous reply is also recorded with his parents, Stephen and Mary Navin, in the 1911 census, showing they were the “Residents of a house 2.1 in Middle Street (Galway East, Urban, Galway).”

    I have seen this many times before in Irish census records where a child is recorded in the household of the parents and also recorded in the household of the grandparents. But if you compare both 1911 census enumerations for young Stephen Ruane in Middle Street, Galway East, and Stephen Ruane in Knock, County Mayo, you’ll see different information concerning him. The 1911 census where he is with his parents, shows he is 11 years old and born in County Galway, but in the 1911 census in his grandmother Sarah Nevin’s residence in Knock, Mayo, he is 10 years old and born in County Mayo. This would be correct. He was born in County Mayo and wouldn’t turn 11 years old until 17 April 1911.

    The 1911 census was supposed to record the residents of a dwelling on 2 April of that year. I’m not sure how long people had to fill in the census form before the constable or enumerator collected it, but young Stephen would have likely traveled between each household sometime in the latter part of March and early April of 1911.

    A Google Map shows that Knock North, County Mayo, is over 25 miles north of Middle Street in Galway City: https://tinyurl.com/2eufzzrb

    The 1911 census shows that Sarah Nevin is a widow, which means her husband Thomas would have died sometime between the 1901 and 1911 census enumerations. I looked for his death record at the irishgenealogy.ie website and found that Thomas died in Knock on 3 April 1909 at the age of 74. At the time of death he was a farmer and was married. The cause of death was, “Bronchitis 2 weeks.” His son Michael Nevin of Knock was present at the death and reported the death to the registrar, Martin Semple, who recorded the death in the Ballinrobe Registration District on what appears to be 5 June 1909. Thomas’s death is number 254 in the register: https://tinyurl.com/2p8djwhx

    I also found that Sarah Navin died in Knock on 3 January 1912 at the age of 74. She is recorded as being a “Widow of a Farmer.” The cause of death was “Bronchitis 3 weeks.” Her son Michael of Knock was present at the death and reported the death to the registrar, Martin Semple, who recorded the death in the Ballinrobe Registration District on what looks like 16 March 1912. Sarah’s death is number 419 in the register: https://tinyurl.com/368vavc8

    HM PRISON WORMWOOD SCRUBS

    John, there are three categories of records available for the Wormwood Scrubs Prison. These are held by the London Metropolitan Archives (LMA). The records include Registers of Prisoners from 1917 to 1967; Warder Memoirs from 1890 to 1936; and Wormwood Scrubs Church of Ireland baptisms, confirmations, and service registers. See: https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/c/F109553

    I’m not sure how much information these prison records contain, and I don’t believe the Wormwood Scrubs Prison records are available online, which means you’d have to pay a visit to the London Metropolitan Archives to search the registers.

    For more information about Wormwood Scrubs Records at the LMA go to the National Archives link at: https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/c/F109553

    For London Metropolitan Archives contact information, see: https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/a/A13532670

    I accessed the 1921 census index for Stephen Ruane at Find My Past, and notice that in addition to being born in 1900, as you had mentioned, his place of birth was Dublin, Dublin. We now know that Stephen was born in County Mayo. The 1921 census could be wrong about his place of birth.

    I went to the irishgenealogy.ie website to see if any child named Stephen Ruane was born in Dublin from the years 1895 to 1905, and found none had.

    At the National Archives of Ireland website I also looked for any child named Stephen Ruane in the 1901 and 1911 census enumerations who had been born in Dublin City or County Dublin circa 1900, but again found none had.

    The 1921 census index also shows that the Registration District where Stephen is recorded is Hammersmith, which is the district where the Wormwood Scrubs prison is located, and where one of London’s Rowton House hostels was located.

    I found an interesting article concerning “Rowton House – Hammersmith,” at the workhouse.org.uk website, which includes photos and a map. See: https://www.workhouses.org.uk/RowtonHammersmith/

    The map you see at the workhouse.org.uk website shows that the Rowton House entrance is from the Hammersmith Road, which runs parallel to Great Church Lane, south of it. The following link will take you to a Google Street View where I believe the Rowton House was situated. It looks like it is where Nazareth House Hammersmith is today: https://tinyurl.com/23je7szr

    Here is a Google Street View of the Nazareth House, Hammersmith Road: https://tinyurl.com/2s495ajr

    A Google Map shows that the Wormwood Scrubs Prison is a little over 3 miles north of Hammersmith Road and Great Church Lane: https://tinyurl.com/3fcckyhm

    It will be interesting to find out if the Stephen Ruane recorded in the 1921 census in Wormwood Scrubs is your Stephen, and why he was incarcerated there. If you find out, please let me know.

    Many thanks again for your reply,

    Dave

    davepat

    Monday 28th February 2022 03:04PM
  • Hi Dave,

    I am so sorry that I have taken so long to reply to your last message. I had taken unwell and unfortunately ended up in hospital, but I am home now and hopefully on the mend and just wanted to thank you so much again for the wonderful information that you have past onto us. I regret not looking into my ancestors sooner and whilst my Mum was still alive as she would have loved to have learnt more about her Mother's family background in Ireland. I unfortunately never seemed to get a chance when I was working, it is only since retiring a couple of years ago that I have managed the time to investigate. I will make a point to visit The London Metropolitan Archives when Covid calms down again to hopefully confirm that the Stephen Ruane held in Wormwood Scrubs in 1921 is my Grandmother's older Brother. My wife thinks from varies articles she has read that he could have possibly been a political prisoner, we shall see???

    Thank You So Much Again

    John

     

     

    Lyncgal

    Friday 25th March 2022 02:02AM
  • You're welcome John and many thanks for writing.

    Dave

    davepat

    Tuesday 5th April 2022 03:14AM

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