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Greetings from Melbourne Australia!
I am trying to locate any information about a Phillip Ryan, born approximately 1809, Upperchurch Tirrerary.

He was married to a Catherine Dwyer born approximately 1811 (place unknown) Phillip's death is registered as Death 13 Oct 1860, Carlton, Victoria, Australia

Child - Bridget Ryan (no other details)

Any details about Phillip Ryan and his family would be greatly appreciated!

 

 

 

 

Melbourne69

Friday 10th Jun 2022, 07:19PM

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  • You don’t say what year your ancestor emigrated, so this marriage record may be too late. Then again, perhaps not. Upperchurch is not far from the village of Moycarkey. I’m guessing Upperchurch was in the Catholic parish of Moycarkey.

    Marriage: 25-Sep-1853
    RC Parish MOYCARKEY, Co. Tipperary
    Philip Ryan m. Catherine Dwyer
    Witnesses: John Callaghan, Onny Dwyer
    (information from rootsireland.ie)

    Patricia

    Saturday 11th Jun 2022, 01:53AM
  • Hi Patricia, 

    Unfortunately I don't think that is a fit as it is too late. I have discovered another sibling for Bridget, Catherine, who was born in 1834 and would expect Philip and Catherine Dwyer married between 1829 and 1833 when Philip would have been roughly 20-25 years old. 
     

    I'm still looking for their immigration records.

    Many thanks

    Celeste

     

    Melbourne69

    Saturday 11th Jun 2022, 07:50AM
  • Hi there,

    I descend from Phillip Ryan & Catherine Dwyer and live in Melbourne Australia.

    Their children were:

    Johannah B:1827 D:1893 - my ancestral line and Married name Bourke

    Catherine B:1836 D:1921 - Married name Sly

    Bridget B:1843 D:1918 - Married name Rafter

    Patrick B: 1857 D:1929

    Mary B:? D:? - Married name Rafter

    Hope this helps

    Cheers

    Paddy O'Sullivan

    PaddyO

    Sunday 12th Jun 2022, 08:56AM
  • Paddy O this is awesome!!

    So I am descended via Bridget Rafter née Ryan through my mothers Paternal grandfather, Andrew Thomas O'Connor who married Elizabeth Jane Agnes Rafter. Daughter of Joseph Henry Rafter and Bridget Ryan. 

    Bridget's sister Mary married a Rafter too which is interesting - I wonder if it was a brother? I know when JH Rafter gave the welcome to the Redmond brothers it was in "Gordon" a small town outside Ballarat. Do you hail from this area?

    Do you have an info about Philip or Catherine's parents? Or any stories / history / what professionals they were in?

    Many thanks for the names and dates.

    Celeste

     

    Melbourne69

    Sunday 12th Jun 2022, 10:11AM
  • Forgot to ask - do you know where Catherine Dwyer was born? Upperchurch also?

    Melbourne69

    Sunday 12th Jun 2022, 10:15AM
  • Gosh, so many questions! Don't suppose you know when Phillip and Catherine got married and where? Or any details when they arrived in Australia? 

    Melbourne69

    Sunday 12th Jun 2022, 10:22AM
  • Hi Celeste,

     

    Phillip & Catherine married in 1827 in Upperchurch. He was 19 and she was 16.

    Phillip's father was Thomas and that's all l know about either side going back in time. Unfortunately l have no information on where Catherine was born or when either of them arrived in Australia.

    The younger sister Mary who also married a Rafter was more than likely a brother to the one on your side, quite common back in those days. The Sly family were from Ballarat which also ties in with your reference to the township of Gordon.

    Cheers

    Paddy 

    PaddyO

    Friday 1st Jul 2022, 12:36PM

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