Andrew Hawthorn (Hathorn), where should I start????

Hi

Thanks for your message.

Do you know much about his emigration? The dates, the reason why heleft, who hemay have travelled with?..etc..Generally more information was given at the port of arrival rather than the port of departure. If you knew which city they arrived at (e.g. Liverpool, New York, etc.), this could be a good place to find more information. -And perhaps even find out an exact place of origin.

US National Archives/Immigration info: http://www.archives.gov/research/immigration/

Some other sites that may help you are:

British parliamentary papers on Ireland can be found at: http://eppi.dippam.ac.uk/documents/9824/eppi_pages/215093

The National Archives of Ireland http://www.nationalarchives.ie/genealogy1/genealogy-records/introduction/

The National Library of Ireland http://www.nli.ie/en/family-history-introduction.aspx

The National Archives UK ? genealogy search: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-person/

The Public Records Office of Northern Ireland http://www.proni.gov.uk/index/family_history.htm

The reality of finding documentation pertaining to births/baptisms/marriages/deaths in Ireland prior to 1800 ? particularly in rural areas ? is that they simply may not exist. Some registers for urban areas pre-dating 1800 may exist ? though often these can be fragmented- as there was an increased need in cities or larger towns to document the population. Please also note that the Church of Ireland was the official church of the country and therefore the bulk of information that does survive for earlier periods is often from these registers. 

Once you have established his place of origin in Ireland you might try checking Church records. Church of Ireland parish registers for the period up to 1870-are public records. Registers are available for about one third of the parishes, however many were destroyed in the Public Records Office in Dublin in 1922. Most are still held by the local clergy, although some are in the National Archives of Ireland and others are in the Representative Church Body Library in Dublin. A list of all surviving registers is available in the National Archives. http://ireland.anglican.org/about/42 and http://www.nationalarchives.ie/.  The Anglican Record Project is has created an index to their records: http://ireland.anglican.org/cmsfiles/pdf/AboutUs/library/AngRecord/bunclodyunionindex.pdf

Most Catholic records are held locally - One site which might be of use is - http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/browse/ - where you can ?browse? an overview of available records per county. If you have any difficulty, you could try writing to the parish priest for possible assistance.

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Additonal Information on Andrew Hathorn and his son.  Andrew was married to Phebe Morrison in 1796 in Orange County, N.Y. at a Presbyrterian Church.  Phebe is listed in later censuses as being born in Ireland as is Andrew.  Their first child (my g-grandfather) is James Hawthorn, born 1797, their other children: Jane b.1799, Mary b.1800, Phebe b.1801, Andrew b.1803, John (middle name Morrison) b.1805.  Andrew died approx 1806 in Wallkill, Orange County, N.Y.    James Hawthorn moved to Wisconsin and worked first as a lead miner and then farmer.  He married and would father 13 children, in the following order: Andrew Jackson, Mary Caroline, Phebe Jane, Ellen O., William Boyles (named after his wife's father), Matilda A., Maria, James R. Jr, Lucinda, French Lake, Alfred H., John, Charles.   I know that these names have some significance as to trying to find the names of previous generations but I have had no luck finding anyone with these names either.  There is no data I can find on immigration records, or family stories passed on that explains why they left.  According to Andrew's will he was a farmer, but left everything to his "wife" and "children".  A name that does appear in his will is Seybolt, the same name that James Hawthorn (Andrew's first child) would serve for as a teenager in the War of 1812.  There are other Hathorn's in the same location of Wallkill, N.Y. that date back to the American Revolution, (Col. John Hathorn) who also named some of this children with the same names but I cannot find a connection between the two.   In the 1930's, John Hawthorn (James' second youngest son) who was quite ill at the time explained that he remembered his father saying his grandfather's name was Samuel (Jame's stepfather?) and that he had two uncles; Andrew and John.  That his grandmother (Phebe Morrison) remarried after Andrew's death to a man named "Roe" and they had two daughters: Harriette and Caroline.  So, I feel like I have alot of fragmented information and that I must be missing something that puts this all togeather.  If somebody out there can see something that looks like I clue I should follow please let me know.  Thank you!