Brady's

HI Kath, welcome to Ireland Reaching Out, I am assuming you are looking for current family as you have done a lot of work and appear up to speed on the family in Drogheda. We do not as a rule locate living relatives unless they see the post themselves.

That said there are some Facebook pages that might interest you, they are private but just apply to join, the first is Drogheda Down Memory Lane - Lost Family and Drogheda Down Memory Lane, however the 2nd one is mainly photos from very old to a decade ago but you can search by name. The is also a Louth Genealogy Facebook page, again private but apply.

A site about Louth with a lot of Brady and Hanratty hits is here http://www.jbhall.freeservers.com/ This includes some grave references and year, St Peters Cemetery is online and I have access to the records of St Marys (would could the Marsh Road) only opened in 1902 though. 

There was a well known pub in the town called Hanratty's which only changed hands about 2 years ago.

By chance my daughter was in Yorkshire about a year ago and seen an obituary of a lady who died from Drogheda in the Huddersfield newspaper, forgotten her name as it was her married name and meant nothing to me.

Please revert if I have gotton the wrong end of the stick on your query.

Regards

Pat 

No I am looking background information for these people . The only reference to the Brady family is the census. Patrick died living in 9 Marsh Road.. I have no name for his wife. I have checked the graveyard records no death to match his death. I only know of Patricks father's name and were they are from only. I have also asked on those pages on Facebook.

No I am looking background information for these people . The only reference to the Brady family is the census. Patrick died living in 9 Marsh Road.. I have no name for his wife. I have checked the graveyard records no death to match his death. I only know of Patricks father's name and were they are from only. I have also asked on those pages on Facebook.

 Kath, I now see your problem, the Marsh Road is in St Marys Parish Drogheda County Louth but in the diocese of Meath, marriage records for here do not commence until 1871 for church records, civil records are from 1864 unless Protestant. Baptisms are much earlier.

To locate a record of your Mary can you give an approximate age, unfortunately we are dealing with common names.

I have found a few records of interest but cannot stand them up until we find a record for one of the siblings giving the mother. Prior to 1864 we are reliant on church records only by and large where they exist.

The only Rose Brady I found with father Patrick or Pat was born circa 1857 in Kells, Co. Meath about 30 miles from Drogheda, mother was a Mary Hinney or now Hiney normally. Found no other children to these parents on Roots Ireland but maybe I am using the wrong spellings and the variant search is not picking up. Oddly there is a Julia Brady born to a Michael Brady and Alice Hiney in Celbridge workhouse in Kildare, not a good thing. I wonder if two brothers married two sisters. There appear to be two related families in Drogheda. This area was very industrialised at that period especially around the Marsh area, docks, factories, linen etc.

I found a number of records that I think may be relevant but the dots do not join immediately for me. Firstly in 1882 a Julia Brady this time father Patrick of the Marsh marry in St Mary’s, she married a John Burns, interestingly the witness’s are Elizabeth Brady and a James Donegan, this surname occurs later again, Rose’s age is a movable feast in the census, aging 19 years in ten, not unusual as the pension came in circa 1906 and being old was helpful, no records prior to 1864 whereas in England civil records commenced in 1837. Why I say this is a Rose Brady is dead in 1950 in Dundalk age given as 80 present at death is a Julia Donegan. (I cannot find suitable marriages or births in Ireland but Drogheda had a regular boat service to Liverpool, more than weekly).

Also found a death of a Mary Brady in the Marsh attended by a Bridget Brady in 1890 I think but she was already a widow so it may be Bridget was the wife of Patrick, have you used the site Irish Genealogy which is free but sign in, civil records mostly there but not all certs visible as yet, births to 1915 I think and deaths to 1965 but full records not all the way back. Same for marriages.

https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/

When you supply Mary’s age I will endeavour to locate her birth, the graves in St Peters are online and I will see if I can locate the site, I have the records ofr Calvary and Cord will check later.

I am attaching some records for your perusal, note a Mary Brady spinster dies in Ardagh, outside Drogheda but a brother Patrick Brady was present but again could be another Brady family.

Regards

Pat

Thanks very much for your help this is what I know.

Mary Brady married Patrick Hanratty March 1878. Mary's father Patrick , Patrick's father is John.
The witnesses are Margaret Brady and John Rouarke. Both Patrick and Mary's age on the certificate is 26.

1881 census
Mary's estimate year of birth is 1853
Her age at this time is 28

In the 1901 census Mary's estimate age is 1856 and this puts her age at 45

Mary had put down Ireland as country of birth.

In the 1901 census Mary's daughter Julia/ Julia Ann/ Julianne/Julianna ( she is known by all these names) is living with her Aunt Rose. Rose put co.Meath on census for where she was born. She is still with her in 1911 census in Drogheda. Julianne married Michael Donegan from Drogheda. Mary had two other kids. John and Norah. Norah also came over and married Thomas Byrne from Hardman's gardens in Drogheda.

You mentioned above that you think Rose was dead by 1950 that Julia Donegan was present at death in Dundalk. Can you recheck that for me. My granny Julianne lived in Thistle Cross, Dundalk and died 15-07-1947.

Kathleen

HI Kath, I will look over your info again over the weekend as I have to prepare some stuff over the weekend and visit some relatives. I was off the wall with the death year, memory failing when I do too much searching and try to write it down later.  Rose died in 1919 certificate attached. In Dundalk. 

There was a two volume history written about Scotch Hall (This is in the Marsh area, now heavily redeveloped) I do not have it but will get a read of it soon and see if anything is mentioned about Brady's. Scotch Hall is thought to be a mistaken name for Scutch Hall which was attached to the linen mill there where the flax was straightened I think. The book is not available to purchase anymore as it was a one off edition.. 

There were two Mary Brady's and two Mary Anne Brady's baptised in Meath between 1850 and 1860, father Patrick. Any idea of the possible mothers first name. We could try to narrow it down by searching for siblings to check the mothers name, none of them near Drogheda but all within 30 miles. There are none in Louth for father Patrick. There is one Pat in Kilsaran about 15 miles north of Drogheda also but as she says Meath this is not close to Meath.

Bye for now,

Pat

Thanks very much that is definitely Rose. She moved to Dundalk to be close to Julianne. Julianne was also living in Emer Terrace at that time in another house. I don't really know anything about the Brady family. I only know of Rose and Patrick from doing research. We have an old picture which was of granny, her sister Norah and a cousin when they were children . I remember when I was young asking my father where they were from he just told me they were from near juliannstown.

Hi Kath, I have noted here is a Patrick Brady and a Patrick Brady Junior buried in the Cord Graveyard, just off the Cord Road, it is now closed for decades and longer, there is currently no access, however there was a book of the inscriptions published about 25 years ago which is available to look at in the library here, research section. I will call in and look at it but it may be more than a week unless I can ask a neighbour to look so just to aquaint you with the existance of same. If we are lucky we may find more information on the inscription. I cannnot find a suitable dead baby online but was hoping if we could identify a post 1864 birth we may find the mothers name. 

I looked in Griffiths Valuation for Brady in Julianstown but only found some in Colp (now Colpe, say Cope) which is nearer to Drogheda than Julianstown, the valuation was done circa 1855 I think. While this is close to Julianstown it is closer to other places and Julianstown is still a small village and only recently has a shop. 

I am attaching a death cert for your records as it may be a relation, child died in 1901, address the Marsh. Father james Brady. 

Regards for now,

Pat

Hi Kath, I finally got the inscriptions from the Cord Graveyard thanks to some helpful library staff. However none of the Brady entries appear to be from your family, they are as follows:

There are 5 Brady entries: Erected by Andrew Brady in memory of his mother Anne Brady died 16th May 1854. His fatehr Patrick Brady died 28th April 1864 and his son Patrick died 23rd March 1866 age 5 years.

Erected by Bernard Brady of Dyer Street, in memory of his children. Ellen died 25th January 1882 aged 17 years. Mary ANne died 6th March 1882 aged 18 years and Patrick and Eliza who also died young. The above Bernard who died 22nd May 1884 aged 57 years and his wife Mary died 1st November 1883 aged 50 years.

THe next stone just says to the memory of Honora Brady. No year given.

Erected by Mr Daniel Brady of Drogheda, Merchant, in memory of his son Daniel who died 20th February 1839 in hte eight year of age. Also his daughter Eliza who died 11th May 1847 in the eithteenth year of age. The above Daniel  died 19th of September 1849 aged 52 years etc.  Also his son Thomas C. Bradyvwho died 19th June 1882 aged 51 years.

Finally a headsone of Devin contains a Brady but I did not get this inscription but is it possibly relevant.

A lot of people did not get headstones for financial reasons so your family may not have had one or there is another graveyard on the Marsh Road which is now disused and where the transcriptions are not great in that there are very few. The two main graveyards now were opened later in the early 1900s I think. 

I suppose it is possible they were interred in Julianstown but I am not aware of any transcriptions. 

Is there any individual we could focus on to assist your research in existing records.

I have a history of the building of St Peters church and see two Bradys in the 1880s listed as on it. They are Michael Brady, labourer started Sept. 1883; Thomas Brady, stonecutter started April 1884:

Regards

Pat

I found two baptisms that may be them. The first is for a Mary Anne Brady born 3rd March 1851 in Kells, Meath. The parents are Patick Brady and Mary Henry. I have found a baptism for a Rose Brady for 27th July 1859 again for Kells, Meath. This record is very hard to read. The parents are Pat Brady and Mary Hxxxy. I cant make out the writing. The sponsor is a John Brady. I am posting two screenshots of this. 

Kath I searched country wide under the names and under just Brady and Henry, it appears there is also a Brady/Henry marriage in Tyrone but I stuck with Meath,

I searched using Christian names and then just surnames and got the following, using Christian names Mary Anne 1851; Catherine 1853; Daniel 11847 and Bridget 1860; then found a John in 1849 all in Meath and a Peter in 1855 in Cavan, Kells in Meath is close to Cavan and it just could be a church in a neighbouring parish for some reason.

I searched between 1840 and 1860. Then in 1863 in Meath there is a Thomas born also.

Any of those make sense.

Regards

Pat

 All along i was going by Mary Bradys Census and her marriage date for her date of birth. The census for Rose and her death certificate put her younger. I have now found out that Rose was the eldest daughter of Patrick Brady from the Marsh Road. I found this in a notice in an old newspaper online. Unfortunately it never named her mother but it did say she was buried in Calvary in Drogheda. I have emailed the parish to see if i can get details of the grave.

Kath, I have somewhere a book of transcriptions of the Calvary Cemetery in Drogheda but cannot locate it, however I asked a friend to look in his and there is no Rose Brady mentioned in it, published in 2002. I will see what Bradys are there if any and let you know. It is always possible she was not named on it as some of the older graves only have a cross on them, I live near the graveyard and if there is any grave you need a photo of I can get it easily enough if you have the number of it, the graveyard only opened in 1902 and is still in use.

Regards

Pat