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My ancestor William Bryden was born in Enniskillen on 6 May 1811. I think his parents were Christopher and Mary Malanny. He married a Helen Campbell from Donegal.

I have no other real information on the family.

Best wishes

Anthony

ADaly

Thursday 16th Apr 2020, 02:50PM

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  • ADaly

    Thursday 16th Apr 2020, 03:04PM
  • Anthony,

    You haven’t said what denomination your ancestor was. That’s important for someone born before 1864 as you are dependent on church records when trying to trace them. However in this case it is probably academic, as I don’t think any church in Enniskillen has records for 1811.

    Bryden is not a common surname in Ireland. In the 1901 census there were just 5 (and one of them was born in Scotland). 3 Church of Ireland, 1 Presbyterian and 1 Catholic. None lived in Fermanagh.

    The RC records for Enniskillen start in 1838, Presbyterian 1819, and Church of Ireland in 1861. The early Church of Ireland records were destroyed in the 1922 fire in Dublin. Having said that, there are some extracts in PRONI which have survived, including:

    Extracts from baptism, marriage and burial registers, 1666-1826.

    Extracts from vestry minutes, 1666-1912, which include some baptism, marriage and burial entries.

    If your Bryden was Church of Ireland (Anglican) you might want to search them. The records are not on-line and so a personal visit to PRONI is required to view them. Otherwise it doesn't seem likely any record will exist for William's birth in Enniskillen. 

    Helen Campbell was probably Ellen in Ireland. Most Ellens became Helen when they moved to Scotland. Not quite sure of the reasoning but it seems fairly common.

     

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Thursday 16th Apr 2020, 07:10PM
  • Hi Elwyn

    Thank you for your reply.

    They were Catholic. Helen, or Ellen noted on a poor relief record that she was also known by the maiden name Carrigan, that was her father (James) surname, but she used her mother (Mary) surname.

    I dont know where in Donegal she was from, I'll post a message on that county to see if anyone would know.

    I only have William's parents name from his death cert in Scotland. Nothing else to go on really.

    Thanks

    Anthony

    ADaly

    Thursday 16th Apr 2020, 07:29PM
  • Anthony,

    Does the poor relief record in Scotland not give Helen's parish in ireland? (They often do). If she lived around Glasgow, the Mitchell Library has them. You'll probably struggle to find any record of her in Donegal as hardly any RC parishes have records for the early 1800s.

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Thursday 16th Apr 2020, 08:56PM
  • If your Bryden was Religious of Island you potency needs to examine them. The histories are not on-line and so an individual visit is compulsory to interpretation them. Or else it doesn't appear likely any personal best will happen for William's birth in Enniskillen. 

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