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RE-POSTING - again, after a long absence.

Thank you Roger McDonnell for trying to assist me.

Have just amended my email and other details which may have been my problem.

Tried to answer CORDANGAN, CATHERINE CANNY & TRAVLLINGMAMMA back in February, when they kindly answered me.  This is when something went wrong. 

Would very much like to re-connect to these people.

Please see ORIGNIAL THREAD below this copy of post.

BURKE/BOURKE BRIDGET & LAUNCELOT a.k.a. MALACHY? GLEESON - TIPPERARY/LIMERICK? 

NAMED IN GRIFFITH VALUATION AS LAUNCELOT.  POSSIBLE BROTHER MARCUS.

KNOWN CHILDREN:

DANIEL (?) KNOWN: gave evidence at Clonmel Assizes after parents were assaulted on Tipperary Road in 1849.

JOHANNA circa 1834 - GORTAVALLA? LIMERICK?. Died 1920, Wangaratta, Victoria, Aus.Emigrated to Victoria, Aus, circa 1853. Said to have lived with an aunt at Beechworth. Married JAMES JOHN THOMAS BULLEID in 1856. Birth info from wedding certificate.

DAVID - Bap 13 Nov 1839 Sologhead  to Malachias Gleeson & Bridgida Burke. Wit: Margarita Burke

MALACHI/MALACHY - Bap 7 Sept 1841 Sologhead to Malachias & Bridgida. Wit: Margarita Burke - Balinulty. Died 1877, Providence, Rhode island, USA. THIS IS A KNOWN SIBLING per oral history. Said to have gone to Canada, but found in Providence, RHODE ISLAND, USA. Married ELLEN MARY FRANCIS MCCORMICK 9 Jan 1876. Parents named as LAUNCELOT & BRIDGET on wedding certificate.

MARY/MARIA? Bap 27 May 1843 to ? GLEESON and Bridgida Burke. Wit: Jacobus? Cunningham & Marua Burke -Ballinulty

GEORGE - Bap 7 Nov, 1844 Sologhead (Ballinulty) to Launcelot and Bridgida. Wit: Margarita Burke.

MARCUS/MARK - Bap 14 Jul 1847 -  Died 1927, Dry Creek, New Norfolk, Tasmania, Aus. Sologhead.(Ballinulty) to Launcelot & Bridgida Wit: Maria Santry? & Formby? - Ballinulty.  MY ANCESTOR.  Went to Liverpool, Eng, circa 1870. To Victoria, Aus in 1878 aboard ship ACONCAGUA, from there on coastal vessel to Tasmania.  Tried to hide his Irish origins, always said he was "from" Lancashire, even in his will. Changed his name on arrival to LEESON. Knew where his sister Johanna was and visited and corresponded with the family, which was hidden from later generations.

Wynnette
Tuesday 18th February 2020, 11:10PM

Tipperary

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  • Hi wynnett

    Just wondering are you in Ireland or Australia 

    Kathryn canny
    Thursday 20th February 2020, 01:52AM

  • I don't have your specific names in my tree but I have both Gleesons and Burke/Bourkes who emigrated to upper Canada. You might want to look at Borrisokane and Nenagh in Tipperary. 

    travelingmamma
    Thursday 20th February 2020, 03:23PM

  • Hi Wynnett

     

    Is this the Lancelot Gleeson that lived in Milltown Cullen ?

    Cordangan Tipperary
    Thursday 20th February 2020, 03:46PM

  • Hello to Katherine Canny, travellingmamma and Cordangan.

    Apologies. Have been off this list for a few years, still re-learning how to navigate the site and I don't seem to be able to find how to reply to you individually.  Nothing I "click" on will allow me to dod so.

    Have just started to look seriously at my GLEESONS again now I am retired and have more time.

    SO:

    Katheryn canny - yes I am in Australia.  Tasmanian born, Living in Queensland for 17 years.

    travellingmamma - Thank you for the tip.  I will look again in the areas you mention.  May not have done so since the digitised baptisms and marriages came online.  There has never been a mention of them in Borrisokane or Nenagh, but of course that may have been where they originally came from.

    Cordangan - Yes, this is the Lancelot/Launcelot that lived in Milltown, Cullen.  I do know from another correspondent from a few years ago, that there was another GLEESON family with almost all the same Christian names also living in the Ballinulty area.  

    I can find no definitive birth, death or marriage for my Lancelot/Launcelot/Malachi and his Bridget Burke/Bourke.

    The birth that proves both Christian names is the one I listed for their son MALACHY/MALACHI. He was baptised with parents named as MALACHIAS & BRIDGET, but on his wedding certificate they are named as LANCELOTT & BRIDGET.

    The "other" GLEESON family tree I was given has a MARK GLEESON died 1826, married ELLEN BARRON ca1791-1864.  My Correspondent is descended from their daughter WINIFRED, who married JOHN HENNESSY.

    Their last two sons were a MARK 1824-1904 who married MARGARET HOGAN and a DANIEL 1826-1905 whom I had thought may have been be ours who married BRIDGET MORRISSY 1842-?  He has no LANCELOT/LAUNCELOT or MALACHY/MALACHI in his line that he knows of. 

    Just the other day I found in the land valuations on Family Search, a MARCUS & DANIEL in 1826.  Sorry, i didn't make notice of the lots.  Was in a hurry.

    Also mentions in 1851 of LANCELOT on Lot 12, and a MAURICE on lot 13.

    In 1845 and 1851, MARCUS on lot 16 and THOMAS on lot 17.

    The 1851 men would seem to HAVE to be related in some way, but I had not seen the names MAURICE or THOMAS before in connection with my family. 

    Thank you all for taking an interest,

    Wynnette Ford, formerly Blanchard, nee Mansfield.

    Wynnette
     

     

Thursday 18th June 2020, 01:10AM

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  • Wynnette:

    I checked and your February comments were posted to the original message so I'm not sure why no one contacted you. I have posted this message to the thread and hopefully you will get replies.

    Roger McDonnell

  •  

Wynnette

Friday 19th Jun 2020, 04:58AM

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  • Hi,
    Is this your Mark Gleeson-?
    Name:Mark Gleeson
    Event Type:Census
    Event Date:1871
    Event Place:Liverpool, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom
    Event Place (Original):Liverpool, Lancashire, England
    Sub-District:Dale Street
    Enumeration District:8g
    Gender:MaleAge:23
    Marital Status:Unknown
    Occupation:Constable
    Birth Year (Estimated):1848
    Birthplace:Tipperany Castrell, Ireland
    Relationship to Head of Household:Boarder
    Relationship to Head of Household (Original):Boarder
    I think it's Cashel, not Castrell. When the library opens I will check on the site they have for the census, the original page has better information.
    Let me know please.
    Margot

    Margot

    Friday 19th Jun 2020, 09:37AM
  • MARGOT,

    Thank you so much  for taking an interest.

    Yes, this is my man.

    What i really need to find are his parents origins.  I have no details for them, except for their names and (some?) of their children.

    I have, as far as I know, ALL details of his years in Liverpool, including the census.

    He worked as a policeman, blotted his copybook and the incident was reported in the newspapers.

    He then worked as a Security Guard come orderly at the hospital, where another incident was reported in the newspapers.

    He ejected an inebriated, violent and foul mouthed woman from the premises.  He was not charged as she was considered the law breaker.

    He fathered a daughter to a married, but separated woman and then, as far as i can ascertain, abandoned them to go to Australia.

    He hid his origins for the rest of his life, changing his name to LEESON.

    Regards,

    Wynnette.

     

    Wynnette

    Saturday 20th Jun 2020, 02:47AM

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