Carews to Canada - Researching Michael Carew and Jeremiah Carew from Donaskeagh, Tipperary

Hello Margo,

There will not be birth, marriage, or death records for your Carew Ancestors in Ireland.

The Irish government began to record Protestant and civil marriages in 1845. Catholic marriages were not recorded at this time.

The civil registration of births, marriages, and death for all religious denominations in Ireland commenced in 1864.

This means that any vital records that exist for your Carew ancestors, would have to come in the form of church baptism and marriage records. I suspect your Carews were Roman Catholic.

Your information shows the Carews came from Donaskeagh, County Tipperary. To find out what Catholic Church the Carew family may have attended if they came from Donaskeagh, I needed to find out which Civil Parish in County Tipperary Donaskeagh was located in.

To do this I went to the Ire Atlas Townland Data Base, and found that Donaskeagh was in the Civil Parish of Rathlynin, Tipperary, S.R (South Ridings). See: https://is.gd/0kP3xZ

The South Ridings is another term for the southern portion of County Tipperary.

According to a book by Brian Mitchell called, “A Guide To Irish Parish Registers,” (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, Maryland, 1988), the Catholic Church that served the parishioners in the Civil Parish of Rathlynin, was the Parish Church of Knockavilla.

A Google Map shows that the Church of the Assumption, Knockavilla, by the shortest route, is 4.5 miles northeast of Donaskeagh. See the map at: https://is.gd/hI9rVH

For a Google Street View of the Church of the Assumption in Knockavilla, see: https://is.gd/CLmL7t
The Church of the Assumption was constructed in 1806. See the parish website page at: http://www.knockavilladonaskeigh.ie/about.php

I next went to the National Library of Ireland website to see how far back in time the library holds the Knockavilla Catholic Parish registers of baptisms and marriages. I found that Knockavilla baptisms are available to download for free from 10 May 1834 to 25 January 1881. Knockavilla marriage are available from 10 July 1834 to 10 July 1883. See: https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0273

The registers begin too late to have recorded baptisms and marriages for your Carew ancestors who had lived in Donaskeagh, as your records show they left Ireland in 1825 in the Peter Robinson Migration.

But, Jeremiah Carew, father and son, and family members may have attended the Church of Assumption in Knockavilla after constructed was finished in 1806.

Don’t hesitate to write with any questions Margo.

Best Wishes,

Dave Boylan

Hi Dave,  Thank you so much for your reply.   I am so grateful for your thoughtful insight and information.  I have done a little further research and have discovered records in Connors Genealogy of what I believe is my Great Great Great Grandfather Jeremiah Carew's tithe records in the townland of Cloghabreedy,  Middlethird Barony, Rathlynin civil parish (formerly Knockgrafton) in Tipperary.   I have attached the records below.     I am still very interested in connecting with any Carews still in Tipperary or any descendants from this line who may have left Ireland for Canada or elsewhere.   Thank you again for your kind reply.    Best Wishes,   Margo Harper   (Macushla) 

http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/tipp/KnockgraffonTithes.htm

https://www.townlands.ie/tipperary/middlethird/knockgraffon/knockgraffon/cloghabreedy/

You're welcome Margo, and many thanks for writing. Based on the attachment you sent, I found a copy of the original Tithe entries for Jeremiah and Richard Carew at the National Archives of Ireland website. The database to view indexes and copies of original tithe records can be accessed at:
http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/home.jsp

The Tithe Applotment Books indexes for Richard and Jeremiah Carew shows the record of their property was recorded in the year 1825:
https://is.gd/wVKKVP

For a copy of the original tithe applotment record for "Cloughbrady," where Jeremiah and Richard Carew were living, and where they paid their tithes, go to:
http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/reels/tab//004625689/00…

Once the tithe page downloads, scroll down to the townland of Cloughbrady.

Just below the entry for Brady, James, you'll see: "200 Carew Richd & Jerh," followed by columns of numbers to the right of their entry. From the way I read this record, Richard and Jeremiah Carew had 6 acres of 3rd quality land, and 1 acre of 4th quality land. This means the land they had leased was not the best for growing crops compared to 1st and 2nd quality land.

In the next two columns to the right you'll see the numers 15 91/2 and 17 1. There are no headings to these columns but they may stand for the tithes paid to the local Church of Ireland Rector and Vicar. The amounts would be 15 Shillings, 9 and one-half pence, and 17 Pence, 1 Shilling. Catholic farmers were not happy to pay these tithes because the tithes went for the upkeep of the Church of Ireland. I've seen Tithe Applotment Book entries where the residents of whole townlands refused to pay the tithes to the Church of England.

You can read more about the Tithe Applotment Books at the following National Archives of Ireland links:
http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/home.jsp
http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/about.jsp
http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/aboutmore.jsp
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Many thanks again for writing Margo,

Dave

Thank you once again Dave.  This is truly fascinating history.  I am wondering: are you an amateur historian and do you live in Ireland?  You seem to be a font of information!    I have one more question.   I have found a record of my GGG Grandfather Jeremiah Carew's brother, Michael Carew, as a member of the Peter Robinson emigration to Canada in 1825.  Michael was on the ship Fortitude along with his wife and children.   I know that my GGG Jeremiah ended up in Peterborough, Ont. around 1825, but I can't find him on any ship's records for this migration.   Can you suggest any sources that may have passenger records or any historians who may have researched this migration?    Thanking you again.   Margo 

You’re welcome Margo,

I don’t have a lot of experience with 19th century ship’s passenger lists to Canada, as all my ancestors settled in the U.S.

But, from what I could learn about the Peter Robinson project, two ships, the Hebe and the Stakesby, left for Canada in 1823.

Another 9 vessels left for Canada in 1825, including the Fortitude, Resolution, Albion, Brunswick, Star, Amity, Regulus, Elizabeth, and John Barry.

I didn’t find Jeremiah on any of these ships to Canada, which is an indication he may not have been a part of the Peter Robinson emigration project from Ireland.

You may have already searched for passengers on the 1823 and 1825 ships to Canada, but if you haven’t see theshipslist.com link at the following URL: https://www.theshipslist.com/ships/passengerlists/peterrobinsonindex.sh…

I also checked for Jeremiah’s arrival in Canada at Ancestry.com but didn’t find him in the 1823 or 1825 records.

The challenge with Canada passenger lists is that the government did not require shipping companies to compile passenger lists before 1865.

I came across a book published in 2014 that may be of help as a reference. The book is called, “Filling in the Gaps: Finding Pre-1865 Ships Passenger Lists to Canada,” by Lorine McGinnis Schulze. For more information about the book, see: https://is.gd/rV3kda

If you don’t wish to purchase the book from Amazon, you can go to your local library and order it through inter-library loan if your library doesn’t already have it.

If you do find Jeremiah on a passenger list, please send all the information as to how you found him, as that will also help others researching their Canadian ancestors arriving in Canada prior to 1865.

Thank you for writing Margo,

Dave

Hi Dave,  Thanks again for your thoughtful reply.   Through Ancestry,  I did find the 1825 embarkation certificate (uploaded below) for the brother, Michael Carew, of my 3GGG Jeremiah Carew.  It appears that Michael - from Donaskeigh, Tipperary, was one of the original Peter Robinson emigrants to Canada in 1825 along with wife Anne, daughter Bridget Carew and 4 sons.  Michael was 34 at the time.  Jeremiah was a few years younger than Michael.  They both appear in the tithes of applotment rolls you provided for me as "reduced farmers" in the same area so I can only assume somehow Michael sent for Jeremiah as a few years later Jeremiah shows up  with his family in Enismore, near Peterborough, Ontario. It's quite remarkable that within a short time of settling  in Canada, that Michael was able to send for his younger brother and large family.  Also through Ancestry I have determined that Michael Carew ended up in Wisconsin with his family but my 3GGG Jeremiah remained in Peterborough and is buried (along with his wife and father)  in the Pioneer Cemetery in Peterborough.    Thank you again for your assistance. 

You're welcome Margo, and thank you for sending the Embarkation Certificate attachment.

Dave