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My grandfather's parents lived in Kilteely when my grandfather was born in 1886 - their names are Sgt. Thomas and Maria (Kennedy) Caughlin - anybody know anything about them? or the Caughlin family living in that area?

BrianCoughlin

Monday 1st Jul 2024, 01:11AM

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  • Brian,

    Attached is your grandfather's civil birth record...last entry. I found his sister, Ellen Coughlan born 24 Aug 1888 to Thomas Coughlan & Maria Kennedy in Kilteely & Dromkeen on the paid site Roots Ireland. For some reason, I could not find her entry in the civil records on irishgenealogy.ie. I could not locate their marriage record.

    Regards,

     

    Carolyn

    Monday 1st Jul 2024, 06:06AM
  • Brian,

    Normal practice in the RIC was not to post an officer to a county where he or his wife had close connections (ie family). Consequently it’s probably fairly safe to assume that neither Thomas nor Maria were natives of Co. Limerick.

    If you can find his RIC file (some of those records are on Ancestry) it should tell you which county he was a native of. It may also tell you where and when he married. In theory you needed to have served 7 years before you could get permission to marry but that rule was not always obeyed.

     

     

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Monday 1st Jul 2024, 07:40AM
  • Brian,

    Could this be your family-

    Residents of a house 11 in Higginstown (Clara, Kilkenny)

    Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses
    Caughlin Thomas 51 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic County Kerry Pensioner R.I.C Read and write English Married -
    Caughlin Elizabeth Mary 37 Female Wife Roman Catholic County Kilkenny House Keeper Read and write English Married -
    Caughlin Thomas James 14 Male Son Roman Catholic County Limerick Scholar Read and write English Not Married -
    Caughlin William Tynan 7 Male Son Roman Catholic County Limerick Scholar Read and write English Not Married -
    Caughlin Bridget Gertrude 5 Female Daughter Roman Catholic County Limerick Scholar Read English Not Married -
    Caughlin Ailacan Teresa 2 Female Daughter Roman Catholic County Kilkenny Nil Cannot read English Not Married -
    Caughlin Vincent Joseph   Male Son Roman Catholic County Kilkenny Nil Cannot read - Not Married -
    Tynan Bridget 76 Female Mother in Law Roman Catholic County Kilkenny Nil Read English Widow -

     

    Regards- Mary

     

    MaryTV

    Monday 1st Jul 2024, 10:16AM
  • Brian,

     Per RootsIreland (paid subscription), Thomas Caughlin, widower/ policeman married Elizabeth Tynan in 1891 in Kilkenny. Thomas was born in Kerry and his father's name was Denis/ Daniel. His mother's was Mary Barrett, address Listowel, Kerry. 

    Mary Kennedy Caughlin died in 1888 in Kiltelly, Hospital, Limerick.

    Regards- Mary

    MaryTV

    Monday 1st Jul 2024, 10:30AM
  • Brian,

    Just to add Mary was 38 when she died in 1888.

    Per RootsIreland

    There were a Thomas Coghlan and Mary Kennedy married in Ennis, Clare in 1875. They had 5 children before Thomas James was born- Johanna born in Clare in 1877, Daniel born in Bruff, Limerick 1879 (father constabulary), John Francis born in Bruff in 1881 (constabulary), Patrick born in Murroe & Boher, Limerick 1884, and Mary born in Murroe & Boher 1885.

    Regards- Mary

    MaryTV

    Monday 1st Jul 2024, 11:24AM
  • I looked on Roots Ireland and also the free site irishgenealogy.ie for a Thomas Coughlin baptismal record with father Denis in Co. Kerry. The only one that came up was a Thomas Coughlen November 3 1842 in Ballybunion. The mother was Mary Mulvihill. 1842 does not match up with the ages Thomas showed in 1901 and 1911. I would not expect that an RIC pensioner would  show an age 7-8 years younger on census forms. Maybe he was baptized in a parish that does not have record back to around 1850.

    Roger McDonnell

     

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Monday 1st Jul 2024, 04:06PM
  • Maria Kennedy Coughlin's death record here:
     

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_retu…

     

    She died of puerperal fever.

    Patricia

    Monday 1st Jul 2024, 06:48PM
  • Pursuant to the previous message...

    Ellen Coughlin was born in August 1888, a few days before her mother, Maria Coughlan, died.

    Patricia

    Monday 1st Jul 2024, 06:52PM
  • Wow!  Thank you all for all this great information - you've given me a few leads to track down. So far I found my great grandfather's service record which is amazing.

    BrianCoughlin

    Tuesday 2nd Jul 2024, 08:17PM

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