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Patrick Dever, My gggrandfather, from Saula Achill Island.  His wife was Mary, last name unknown.  Their children were Ellen, Patrick (my ggrandfather, born about 1856), Bridget and Mary.  My ggrandfather came to the states around 1872 and eventually ended up in Cleveland Ohio.  There is a possibility that Ellen married a Carlin and Bridget married a Moran. Trying to find any information about this side of my dad's family.  

Jeannette

Monday 16th March 2020, 03:23AM

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  • Hi Jeanette,

    I didn't have much luck searching on www.rootsireland.ie/ I'm afraid

    This was the only Saula 

    Name:Patrick DiversDate of Birth:18-Jun-1867
    Registration Date:01-Jul-1867Address:SaulaParish/District:ACHILL DISTRICTGender:MaleCountyMAYO
    Denomination:Roman Catholic
    Father:James DiversMother:Mary PattenOccupation:Labourer

    A couple of possibles for Patrick senior:

    Name:Patrick DeversDate of Birth:03-Jan-1827
    Date of Baptism:14-Jan-1827Address:Brook St.Parish/District:KILMOREMOY/BALLINAGender:MaleCountyMAYO
    Denomination:Roman Catholic
    Father:James DeversMother:Mary PrialOccupation:
    Sponsor 1 /
    Informant 1:Henry LoftusSponsor 2 /
    Informant 2:Anne Hart

    Name:Patrick DeverDate of Birth:
    Date of Baptism:28-Feb-1830Address:WestportParish/District:Oughaval CofI parishGender:MaleCountyCo. Mayo
    Denomination:Church Of Ireland
    Father:Michael DeverMother:AnneOccupation:Labourer
     

    One of the children's marriages:

    Date of Marriage:05-Feb-1872
    Parish / District:NEWPORT DISTRICT
    County:MAYO
    Husband
    WifeName:JohnCarlin
    EllenDevirAddress:Murrivagh
    MurrevaghDenomination:Roman Catholic
    Roman CatholicOccupation:LABOURER
    Age:22
    20Status:Bachelor (Previously unmarried)
    Spinster (Previously unmarried)
    Husband's Father
    Wife's FatherName:PatCarlin
    JamesDevirAddress:
    Occupation:FARMER
    FARMER
    Husband's Mother
    Wife's MotherName:
    Witness 1:Name:McihaelKilery 2:MaryMcLoughlin
    Notes:

    MARRIED IN NEWPORT CHURCH BY JOHN A CONCANNON C.C. COUPLE AND
    SPONSORS COULD NOT WRITE.

    No Devers / Divers in the Irish Censuses in Mayo anywhere 1821-51; the Tithe Applotments (free at http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/) have an Owen Dever in 'Sala' 1828

    Griffiths Valuation (free at http://www.askaboutireland.ie/) has 30 Devers in Mayo; Andrew & Terrence in Achill, 'Salia' in 1855 (listed several times each)

    The crucial question is their religion - do you know if they were C of I or R C?

    The NLI R C regsiters are free on line at https://registers.nli.ie/ & have Achill marraiges 1821-29 & baptisms 1867-81 whereas the parish registers in the Representative Church Body Library Dublin have Achill births from 1854, marriages from 1855 & deaths from 1854

    I had a look on my cd Memorials of the Dead Galway & Mayo for Devers and found this one - perhaps ggggg'father?:

    O Lord have mercy
    on the soul of
    Patrick Dever
    who died 14th Sept 1872
    aged 67 years
    Erected by
    his beloved wife
    Bridget Dever

    Graveyard:A medieval church site and the most important graveyard for the Westport area, which served all religious persuasuions. It is to the south-west of the town and on both sides of the road.

    Col Cafferky

    Achill Parish Volunteer

    ColCaff, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Tuesday 17th March 2020, 04:14AM
  • Thank you for the info.  I would say they would have been baptized Roman Catholic, as that was our upbringing.  The first Patrick you listed wouldn't be right as I know my ggrandfather was born around 1856.

    The 2 Patrick seniors are curious, but I don't know anyone beyond Patrick senior.  In Griffiths there is a Patrick Dever from Saula, showing just a home.

    The marriage of John Carlin and Ellen Devir is curious.  There were 2 Carlin brothers who stayed with my great grandmother, Mary Dever, in Cleveland Ohio around 1910.  Never knew if there was a link but figured there might be one.  But they would possibly be John and Ellen's children.

    The memorial shows Bridget as his wife but my Patrick's wife was Mary.  Plus he would have been my gggrandfather.  I wish I was young enough for him to be a gggggrandfather.

    Again thanks.  I will get lucky one of these years.
     

     

    Jeannette

    Wednesday 18th March 2020, 12:32AM