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Hello- I have been able to trace my family history back to Thomas Drope. My daughter is in Dublin right now ( traveling through Europe) and I would love to give her as much history as I can. My grandfather was Harry Earl Drope. He decends from this line but this is all I know. I don’t know if there are any Dropes that remain in Ireland that we would have any ties to. Thomas must have left Ireland and moved to Ontario. My grandfather was born late 1800’s in Canada.

Thursday 22nd Jun 2023, 06:50PM

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  • No-one named Drope anywhere in Ireland in either the 1901 or 1911 censuses.  9 families in Dernamoyle in 1901:

    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Monaghan/Dawsongrove/Dernamoyle/

    1 Drope  marriage in Co Cavan in 1845. No births or deaths registered 1864 onwards right up to 1970.

    A Thomas Drope was farming in Dernamoyle in 1830, according to the tithe applotment records. But he had gone by the time of Griffiths Valuation in 1858, presumably because he had emigrated to Canada.

    I’d say the family has died out in Ireland. I'd guess they were probably a Plantation era family who arrived in the 1600s.

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Thursday 22nd Jun 2023, 07:52PM
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    Drope + variants - Source: Irish Ancestors

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    McCoy

    Friday 23rd Jun 2023, 07:31AM
  • Drope - Surname - Source: Jane Morrison - Ireland Reaching Out 2012 - 1017

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    McCoy

    Friday 23rd Jun 2023, 10:41AM
  • DROPE Family, County Cavan and elsewhere--update on Frances DROPE married William DROPE of Dublin in 1784

    In the past couple of days, the Registry of Deeds Project, via the Irish Genealogical Research Society (IGRS), has led me to Memorial No. 244234, Ogilbys Settlement and Drope to Sutton, on FamilySearch Film # 007905704, Image 112 of 600. This Memorial records the father of Frances DROPE, widow, of Dublin as John MARLAND, Sugar Baker, late of Dublin, deceased. Before being aware of this Memorial of Indenture, I had thought that this Frances DROPE, might have been the Frances DROPE who married Robert McILLREE of Ballyhaise, County Cavan, (d.c. 1784, probate granted at Ballyhaise in 1785), FamilySearch Robt McIllree Legal, Ireland Diocesan and Prerogative Wills & Administrations Indexes, 1595–1858. The Memorial records that Frances DROPE signed over substantial land holdings in County Cork to George Sutton, Alderman and George Murray, Merchant as a marriage was intended soon between Frances DROPE and William OGILBY. This Frances DROPE may be a relative of the DROPEs by marriage but is obviously not the Frances DROPE, who was the daughter of John DROPE of Ballyhaise and Anne WIGGINS.

    DROPE family historians, if not seen already, may also be interested in Sebastian Graham's Mills of Northern Ireland website: http://www.millsofnorthernireland.com On this website, Sebastian Graham is compiling information, including maps of all the mills that have existed in Northern Ireland since the 1600s, including mills in County Cavan. DROPE researchers may be aware that the Registry of Deeds holds at least one Memorial, No. 184519262, McIlree to Willson, that relates to the marriage settlement, dated 8 September 1845, between Robert McILLREE and Catherine JENNINGS at Clifton, Galway. The memorial refers to the various leases relating to lands in Mullalogher and part of Keelagh, Barony of Lower Loughtee, made between John DROPE (a grandfather of Robert McILLREE) of Ballyhaise, County Cavan and Thomas Newburgh dated 13 September 1763; between John DROPE and Arthur Newburgh dated 25 November 1789 for more lands in Cuilcanadees including "the Mill and Mill Parks the Bleach Garden and Orchard..." (already in his possession) and another lease between James Swanzy of Ballyhaise Bridge and John DROPE dated 1 September 1795. This memorial situates John DROPE (a miller) at Ballyhaise, as a holder of lands in the Barony of Lower Loughtee from some time 1763, if not before, as the lands leased from Thomas Newburgh, were apparently already in the possession of John DROPE when the Indenture was made on 13 September 1763. Perhaps the earliest map to show where the Drope mill was located is Taylor and Skinner Road Maps of Ireland 1778 (surveyed in 1777), Cavan to Clones [road], that shows a "Flower Mill" north of "Ballyhays" and opposite lands held by "Newburgh Esq."

    John DROPE, miller, probably died c. 1800. His land holdings passed to one of his grandsons, John Drope McILLREE (c. 1782–1855), who married Margaret QUIGLY (Jan 1783–1846) in 1802. 

    Sebastian Graham's database identifies the mill at Ballyhaise as a corn mill:

    "Corn Mill

    Description

    Mullacroghery. Listed in 1st os [Ordnance Survey] map records [created between 1829 and 1842] as a Corn Mill. Sluice listed in 25inch map. Thomas Brady ([leased from] John McElree) House, office and corn mill Total=£5.0.0 Valuation House Book 5.0070 1837 - Miller Thomas Brady, house, office, corn mill, corn kiln. Waterwheel diameter 12ft breadth of bucket 2ft 9ins number of buckets 36, fall of water ... 1 pair stones diameter 5ft class B. Water 7 months of the year constant work for 4 months. Water power £3.7.6 Buildings £4.4.5"

    Margaret McIllree nee Quigly's father was Captain Edward QUIGLY (d. c. July 1801) of Belturbet, County Cavan. Edward QUIGLY operated the Strahagland flour and corn mills at Belturbet. There is a lease for the mills and shillin houses dating from 1787 between Robert Herbert [Butler], Earl of Lanesborough and Edward QUIGLY. The lease passed to Edward QUIGLY's son, John QUIGLY (Margaret's brother) after their father's death. After spending a considerable sum repairing the mill, house and other related buildings, the property was advertised for rental in September 1809. John QUIGLY married Maria WINSLOW on 19 November 1805 and died intestate in April 1814. After that I don't know what happened to the Belturbet corn mills, house and related buildings. More research to be done.

    A later generation of McIllrees married into the English LOMER family. In 1873, English corn merchant, Cecil Wilson LOMER, married Frances McILLREE (1849–1874), the only daughter of Robert McILLREE and Catherine JENNINGS (see Memorial re marriage settlement above) in Dublin in 1873. Frances died tragically in Hampshire, England, after giving birth in 1874. Cecil LOMER married her cousin, Ella McILLREE (1853–1943) in Dublin 1876. They had other children.

    Jane Morrison
    (Direct descendant of John DROPE, Anne WIGGINS and their daughter, Frances DROPE who married Robert McILLREE (Ballyhaise apothecary).

     

     

     

    Jane Morrison

    Friday 5th Jan 2024, 08:44AM

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