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My great grandmother, Bridget Grehan was born Bridget Dunne in Phillipstown circa 1841. Her father, Charles Dunne, was described as a farmer. She had at least one sibling, Harry Dunne, who emigrated to Queensland with his wife and two children in 1862. On 15 January 1865, Bridget married Jeremiah (Darby) Grehan in the Kilclonfert Catholic Chapel. Jeremiah came from Toarallen, Toarlisnamore, north of Kilbeggan in Westmeath. On 22 February 1865 Jeremiah and Bridget left Cork on the sailing ship "Sunda" and travelled to Queensland under the auspices of the Queensland Immigration Society, an initiative of Bishop Quinn, the first bishop of Brisbane, to increase the Catholic population in south-east Queensland. For a number of years they farmed around Veresdale, about 70 kilometres south of Brisbane but it was a very tough existence. The marriage broke up and Jeremiah returned to Ireland. Bridget eventually had a home at Bowen Hills in Brisbane which she named "Killoran". She told my mother, who often stayed with her, that it was named after a small village near where she grew up. I have not been able to find such a village on any maps to which I have access. I wondered if anyone could help me with that information or any other information about the Dunne family in the parish of Kilclonfert.

j tolhurst

Monday 8th Apr 2019, 11:19PM

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  • One of my great-grandfathers was born in the parish of Philipstown/Daingean in Offaly, and I may be able to help.  There does not appear to be a Killoran anywhere in Offaly, but on Google Earth I found a Killoran to the southeast, across the border in County Kildare (on the other side of the parish of Clonbullogue from Philipstown).  It's in the parish of Rathangan (or Kildare and Rathangan).  Killoran does not appear to be a townland name, but perhaps what is sometimes referred to as a "sub-townland". located within the townland of Shean.  You can find more info about Shean here:  https://www.townlands.ie/kildare/east-offaly/rathangan/rathangan/shean/

    At that site, they also provide links to records such as the 1901 and 1911 censuses, and also Griffith's Valuations, but there appear to be no such records for Shean.  Shean is located on the western outskirts of the town of Rathangan, and it's possible that it went by another name back then (maybe even Killoran). Sometimes, especially in Griffith's Valuation, a place name will be listed as a townland when it no longer is one today (that happened in another part of my family), although the locals may still use the old name and think of it as a townland.. Actually, there's a similar naming discrepancy for Philipstown/Daingean itself, as you can see if you look around at the site mentioned above.  In some records it's the one name, and in others it's the other name, and the townlands are not all linked to either name.  For that reason, I've found Google Earth a better way to find the location of places in Ireland, because it often includes place names not found in the official lists of townlands, and you can actually see a satellite photo of the place, and enlarge it.

    I don't know whether that's the right Killoran, but If your ancestors lived in the eastern part of Daingean/Philipstown parish (as my great-grandfather's family did), that particular Killoran would not have been very far away.  I don't know for certain the origin of the name Killoran, but there is a Killoran in County Galway, and its Irish form is Cill Odhráin, menaing "Oran's Church".

    Interestingly, in the parish records which I've searched in Daingean, there was a Margaret Dunn who witnessed the maririage of two of my likely relatives in 1828, so we might be distantly related.  In case you haven't already looked into it, the parish records for Daingean/Philipstown go back as far as 1795 for baptisms (with a gap from 1798-1819), and 1820 for marriages,so you may be able to find your Dunne ancestors there.  The online records are at this link:  https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0723

    The parish records for Kilbeggan in Westmeath also go pretty far back, to 1818 for both baptisms and marriages, and you can find them online here; https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0943

    kevin45sfl

    Tuesday 9th Apr 2019, 03:35PM
  • Kevin. Thank you for your assistance. It is really something to share information with someone whose great grandparentrs came from the same area. I have not been able to find the baptsmal records for my great grandmother because I don't even have a  birth date and searching the microfilm is very difficult. Unfortunately, the marriage records for 1865 are not available. I think that the Killoran which you found is probably the correct one. I was aware of the village of the same name in Galway but dismissed that as being too distant. I really appreciate your assistance. Regards. Jim Tolhurst

     

     

    j tolhurst

    Sunday 14th Apr 2019, 03:05AM
  • Hi Jim, you may already know this, but there is a baptism at Philipstown of Brigid Dunn to CHarles Dunn of Kill and Bidy Finlay on20 Mar 1842. The parish register is here: https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0723  Charles Dunn held 14 (Irish) acres at Kill in the 1824 Tithe Applotement Books: http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/reels/tab//004587456/00…; So "Killoran" was probably "Kill". 

    keaveny

    Tuesday 8th Jun 2021, 02:03PM

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