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Searching for details of siblings and parents of Lindsay Finney born BALLycraigy Rathmore Antrun circa 1797 his wife Janet Ferguson was born 1800 I have names of three children Joseph Finney Matilda and Andrew Ferguson Finney

GEORGINA

Tuesday 4th Aug 2020, 05:32PM

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  • Georgina,

    Your information is that Lindsay Finney is from Ballycraigy, Rathmore, Antrim. There are 3 places in Co. Antrim called Ballycraigy (in the parishes of Antrim, Larne and Ballymoney) and 2 called Rathmore (in the parishes of Donegore  & Nilteen Grange).  All in different places which makes it tricky to work out where your family lived. Do you have any other information about your family that might identify exactly where they came from in Co Antrim? Also what denomination were they, if you know?

     

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Tuesday 4th Aug 2020, 11:05PM
  • All Presbyterian and yes tricky to trace in searching Lindsay Finney born 1796 born BALLycraigy Antrim and then I have Rathmore Antrim then for Lindsay son JMes born 1830 to 1840 I have Dunadry but I did spot NILTENE Grange also and am inclined that searches should probably focus on Nilteen Grange. I can't find a baptismal record for Lindsay Finney which would give me names for his parents. A COUSIN HAD QUITE A GOOD BIT OF WORK DONE BUT DUE TO FAMILY ILLNESS I got handed her research to date I have had moderate success but am hitting a brick wall. Biggest difficulty is nailing down the parish or the townland to a parish. Marriages occur in cluster areas townland in close proximity to where the individuals lived

    GEORGINA

    Wednesday 5th Aug 2020, 06:45PM
  • All Presbyterian and yes tricky to trace in searching Lindsay Finney born 1796 born BALLycraigy Antrim and then I have Rathmore Antrim then for Lindsay son JMes born 1830 to 1840 I have Dunadry but I did spot NILTENE Grange also and am inclined that searches should probably focus on Nilteen Grange. I can't find a baptismal record for Lindsay Finney which would give me names for his parents. A COUSIN HAD QUITE A GOOD BIT OF WORK DONE BUT DUE TO FAMILY ILLNESS I got handed her research to date I have had moderate success but am hitting a brick wall. Biggest difficulty is nailing down the parish or the townland to a parish. Marriages occur in cluster areas townland in close proximity to where the individuals lived

    GEORGINA

    Wednesday 5th Aug 2020, 06:45PM
  • You would need to get a researcher to go through the various Presbyterian records for the area around Dunadry.  Few of them are on-line and so you need to go to PRONI in Belfast to look them up.

    Not all churches have records back to 1797 and so you may struggle to find a record of Lindsay Finney's baptism.

    One of the churches in the area is Donegore 1st Presbyterian. I have a copy of their records. I searched them 1820 – 1830 but Lindsay and Janet did not marry there. I also searched the baptisms 1830 – 1840 but did not see James or any other child baptised there. However there are plenty more Presbyterian churches in that area.

    I looked in the tithe applotment records c 1830 but did not see any mention of Lindsay .

    There was a Matthew Feeney in a labourer’s house in Ballycraigy, Antrim town in 1862. That is probably Lindsay's son Mathew who was a gardener. 

    There is a family tree on Ancestry that lists this family and provides a little more information.  It indicates Lindsay had a son Mathew born c 1829, and who was living in Ballycraigy Antrim town in the 1860s. From that I found a birth for a male Finney to Matthew Finney and Ellen Boyd on 19.6.1865. Probably their son Matthew,.

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1865/03565/2313046.pdf

    Plus a daughter on 6th August 1868 who the tree suggests was named Agnes:

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1868/03432/2259517.pdf

    Matthew & Ellen married in 1855 in Mill Row Presbyterian church (now usually called Antrim 1st) in Antrim town.

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1855/09481/5435820.pdf

    The certificate confirms his father was named Lindsay. So right family.

    I suspect this must also be your family. A Lindsay Finney was born to James Finney of Dunadry and Margaret Acheson on 9th Aug 1868:

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1868/03432/2259542.pdf

    Plus Joseph in 1868:

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1868/03422/2255349.pdf

    James and Margaret were married in 1860 in Antrim Register Office. Again the father’s name is Lindsay.

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1860/09581/5473933.pdf

    James and family in Belfast in 1901:

    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Woodvale_Ward/D…

    I found a marriage for Martha Finney daughter of Lindsay in 1851 to Joseph Hanna in 1851. 

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1851/09400/5405018.pdf

    The marriage was at Mill Row Presbyterian church in Antrim. Tradition was to marry in the bride’s church so it might be worth checking that one out for the children’s baptisms. The church has records going back to 1677, albeit with some gaps. Copy in PRONI in Belfast.

    Joseph Finney married Matilda Irwin (a widow) in 1865.

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1865/11578/8260058.pdf

    Birth of a daughter in 1867 in Dunadry. (You should be able to find others on the irishgenealogy site).

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1867/03477/2277394.pdf

    Matilda Irwin’s previous name appears to have been Clarke  (son born 1873). Some of the children are under Clarke rather than Irvine/Erwin:

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1873/03200/2173283.pdf

    Agnes, daughter of Matthew, married in 1896:

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1896/10504/5825576.pdf

    Marriage was at Templepatrick Presbyterian church.

    Jane Finney daughter of Matthew married in 1895, this time at Muckamore Presbyterian church:

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1895/10512/5828862.pdf

    Joseph son of Joseph married in 1897 at Donegore 1st Presbyterian church:

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_re…

    I suspect these two probate abstracts probably refer to descendants of the Lindsay born in 1797:

    Finney Lindsay of Tynan 142 Kensington Road Knock Belfast engineer died 15 March 1949 Probate Belfast 9 May to John Ernest Finney company director. Effects £1150 15s. 5d.

    Finney, Lindsay of Seaview Crawfordsburn county Down retired gardener died 5 June 1965 at Bangor Hospital Bangor county Down Administration Belfast 26 July to Florence Edith Finney the widow. Effects £2337 9s.

    The probate files are held in PRONI in Belfast. They are free to view there.

     

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Wednesday 5th Aug 2020, 10:39PM
  • That's my difficulty family name repitionsi have 7sed Ancestry search and found huge amount of births and marriages I have als struck luck and got some lines back to the 1400 immigration was big around mid 1800 family's either went to Ontario Canada or ERIE Pennsylvania and I have had to take my search transatlantic so to speak there are actually 2 if not 3 Lindsay FINNEYs in the tree also same for Matthew it's crazy

    GEORGINA

    Thursday 6th Aug 2020, 05:01PM
  • That's my difficulty family name repitionsi have 7sed Ancestry search and found huge amount of births and marriages I have als struck luck and got some lines back to the 1400 immigration was big around mid 1800 family's either went to Ontario Canada or ERIE Pennsylvania and I have had to take my search transatlantic so to speak there are actually 2 if not 3 Lindsay FINNEYs in the tree also same for Matthew it's crazy

    GEORGINA

    Thursday 6th Aug 2020, 05:02PM
  • Well I hope the information I have given helps. If you have any specific questions let me know.

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Thursday 6th Aug 2020, 06:40PM
  • I will Thanks Elwyn

    GEORGINA

    Friday 7th Aug 2020, 05:33PM
  • Hi there I'm Anthony Finney,  Devon UK,  Joseph Finney ,born 1796. ,died  1868, is my 3rd great grandfather,  so this might be of help to us both we hope.  Thanks Tony 

    Friday 26th Mar 2021, 12:07PM

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