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HAMPSTEAD HOUSE also known as THE ELMS, Kinsale Road, Ballycurreen, Frankfield, Cork

Searching for photos of HAMPSTEAD HOUSE also known as THE ELMS, Kinsale Road, Ballycurreen, Frankfield, Cork

Photo/s wanted please: Hampstead House, or later known as The Elms, on Kinsale Road,/Airport Road, Ballycureen, Frankfield, Cork. See map attached to show location - see "The Elms" at top of map.  From the road it would be quite hidden behind trees I expect.

Out of all the people that have lived in this house, there has to be someone somehwere who has photo of this house and property which was once on the outskirts of Cork CIty.  Maybe it is in the background of a family photo!  

This was once the address of my ancestors in the 1830s, the Hill family.  Lieutenant Boyle Hill married Eliza Rogers. They had 10 children: John O'Dell Hill, Boyle Travers Hill, Richard Hutchinson Hill, Eliza Hill, Vesey Colclough Hill, Thomas Newman Hill, Charlotte Cecilia Rogers Hill, Margaret Drury Hill, Edward Drury Hill and Ann Brooke Hill.

The house existed until late in 2000's, still being visible in satelite images on Google Earth.  It became derelict, and later partially caught fire in 2005. See news items attached below.  It was demolished a few years later. Since then it has remained vacant land, and currently for sale, last time I checked on Google Street View. 

I'm greatly hoping to find previous residents or owners of this property, with view to obtaining photo of this house that has such a prominent place in my family history.  I have a bunch of newspaper clippings from over the centuries referring to it, and many clippings and notices in relation to the Hill family's time of occupancy at Hampstead House. First reference to it in newspapers is 1793.

Fingers crossed there's someone out there who can help! Thank you for reading this!

Sharon

Wednesday 13th January 2021, 05:33AM

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  • Hi Sharon, 

    This may help,
    Landed Estates, NUI Galway
    Go to Browse  Go to HOUSES  under H   you will see 2 x Hampstead listed, 2nd one down this is your Hampstead House.
    I have checked the BDM records and none give the address as Hampstead House or The Elms.
    This John H Bainbridge moves to another area of Cork by 1858. He was in France before he was in Cork.

    Cheers

    Margot

     

     

    Margot

    Wednesday 13th January 2021, 02:07PM
  • Hi Margot,

    Many thanks for your reply.  I haven't checked the NUI Landed Estates website for a while, it's good to see it's been updated to indicate Hampstead House is no longer extant. Sadly! I started my family history research a few years too late, the house was still standing not that long ago. If was in Cork and not Australia I could go look for some neighbours nearby. Maybe I could find an "old timer" who has some invaluable information to share. But alas, I am a long way away.

    With your BDM record search, that's interesting that neither Hampstead House or The Elms appears as an address. I'm interested in learning how and where you conduct a BDM search on addresses, please let me know where you were able to check this.  My ancestors the Hill family were residents in the 1830s, prior to civil registration of course, but would be great to identify other residents living there.  Any means of finding who might have lived there more recently, in the 20th or 21st Century, is what I'm after, so yours was a good thought!  

    All suggestions welcome.

    Cheers

    Sharon

     

     

     

     

    Sharon

    Thursday 14th January 2021, 12:35AM
  • Hi Sharon, this is how I would/did the search.
    I will explain in detail, sorry is you already know this.
    boyle hill Search Results (familysearch.org)
    From the information you gave and the information in familysearch.org match to the BDM in this site.
    Welcome to Irish Genealogy - Irish Genealogy

    If you look at the 2nd box, Church records put in boyle hill, his Baptism is there, he is the only Boyle Hill. His parents are there too.
    If you go to where you put bolye in and delete it just leave HILL more results come up. It's just a matter of searching through until you see any marriages you recognise.
    Then go back to the main screen and go to the 3rd box Civil Records.
    Marriages are listed from about 1844 births up to 1919 (as of today) deaths, if they are there.
    When you see place names.... put them into search with the county and the Map. and you will get the place.
    For more information you can use the census, using the marriaed name of the ladies.
    The for births after 1919 use the family search site, births up to 1958. (I am listed)
    After that, are yu a member of Ancestry?
    Boyle Hill was married to Elizabeth Rogers in Dunderrow on the 29th November 1808.
    He was in in the Forces, at that time the Royal Navy and Army were always listed as one group.
    This is the map
    Dunderrow - Bing

    After Boyle's death his widow Elizabeth was granted a Pension, at that time she was living in Tivoli, this is in Cork City.
    I can not upload these docs as they are from a paid site.
    In 1836 Boyle Hill must have been living in the Hampstead House he is listed in the Tithe records, it doesn't state the name of the house.
    He is not in the Tithe records in the Ireland Archives, don't know why.
    The only thing I did notice was Hampstead area is now an Industrial estate, if you search Hampstead house cork you get this....
    I do know of other web sites to get information, so can you email me please and I will send them to you.
    marg2ade@yahoo.co.uk

    Cheers

    Margot

     

     

    Margot

    Thursday 14th January 2021, 01:15PM