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Hello I’m looking for any potential information on a Harvey family that may be from Donegal. The father’s name was Thomas Harvey (circa 1810-1880) and his wife Bridget McCloskey (circa 1810-1891). Their sons, Patrick Harvey (1837-1915) and  Cornelius Harvey (1850-1919) and maybe a Peter Harvey (1839-?). Patrick, I think left for Canada (?) but eventually settled in the US in Ulster County New York followed by his brother Peter. Cornelius came with his mother later, I think after her husband died. Any information would be helpful. Thanks  Karen Danielsen nee  Vaughan 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

KarenVaughan

Sunday 25th Mar 2018, 12:05AM

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  • Karen:

    Welcome to Ireland Reaching Out!

    What was the religious denomination for your Harvey ancestors?

    I did not find any baptismal records on Roots Ireland and the Church of Ireland records are included on Roots. RC and Presbyterian are not there back to your timeframe.

    The 1857 Griffiths Valuation head of household listing for Donegal civil parish does show a Thomas Harvey on Water Lane in Donegal town. Possibly this is your ancestor.

    http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths/donegal/donegal.htm

    I did not locate a death record for Thomas Harvey.

    Let me know what questions you have.

    Roger McDonnell

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Sunday 25th Mar 2018, 01:37PM
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    Hi Roger

     

    Thanks for getting back to me. The denomination was/is RC. I guess one of my main questions is whether it was common from people from Donegal to emigrate to Canada rather than the US. Also which port would they typically sail from in Ireland or England ( or elsewhere?)? There are not a lot of records from Canadian ports from that time but it might help to know that there was a higher likelihood of someone emigrating from Donegal would tend to go to Canada.

    Thanks

    Karen 

     

     

    KarenVaughan

    Monday 26th Mar 2018, 04:49PM
  • Karen:

    People leaving Ireland tended to go to the country where they may have had a family/friend connection. I have two different great-grandparents who left from different parts of Donegal and both ended up in South Philadelphia where they married in 1873. Many people from Donegal would have left from Londonderry (now Derry) port but other ports were also used.

    Roger

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Tuesday 27th Mar 2018, 02:53PM
  • Thanks for that.  I have another question not directly related to this thread.  I've always been kind of confused about civil registration indices.  When people were required to register births, marriages and deaths, did they start doing that from the date the law was effective or did they register people who were born before that law went into effect?  The reason I ask is that it seems that when you look at the first registrations, all the registrants have the same date attached to the record. Was the purpose just to register all the people who were, say, alive at that point?  If you know of any explanation of the civil registration indices online that I could read that would also be helpful.

     

    Thank,

    Karen Danielsen

    KarenVaughan

    Friday 30th Mar 2018, 11:01PM
  • Karen:

    Full civil registration of BDMs started with any event January 1, 1864 or later ( As an aside, non-RC marriages from 1845 on were civilly registered).  If someone was born December 31, 1863, their birth did not have to be civilly registered. I'm sure the process was slow to start and many people in the rural country may not have complied in the early years.

    Here is some background from Claire Santry.  https://www.irish-genealogy-toolkit.com/Irish-civil-registration.html

    Roger

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Saturday 31st Mar 2018, 08:35PM

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