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I am looking for any information about Henry Boyce.  I believe he was born in Donegal in 1821, and I know he was married to Margaret (Mary) Duffy whose parents were William and Ann (Rose) McMonagle.  He migrated to Pennsylvania sometime around the famine and his oldest son was named Patrick (1854-1937) who was my great grandfather.  I have been unable to get a whole lot of information of him prior to him living in Philadelphia.  From some of my DNA matches I believe he was from the Fanad Peninsula area, but that's all I have. Any information or leads would be appreciated.  Thank you!!

James T.

Monday 3rd May 2021, 01:10AM

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  • James:

    I will alert our volunteer who is originally from the Fanad Peninsula area. However, finding records back before 1850 is very difficult because very few parishes have records.

    Roger McDonnell

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Monday 3rd May 2021, 02:11PM
  • Thank you Roger.  

    James T.

    Monday 3rd May 2021, 10:42PM
  • Hi James T.  

    Welcome to Ireland Reaching Out!  

    Unfortunately, when it come to researching the name Boyce, it is a surname that tends to be common enough throughout the whole of Co. Donegal.  Finding RC records prior to 1850 is very difficult in Co. Donegal. Only a few parishes have records pre-1850.  

    The Parish of Clondavaddog (Fanad & Glenvar) RC records start in 1847 and the Civil registration of Birth, Marriages and Deaths did not begin until 1864. This would explain why you have been unsuccessful in trying to find records for your ancestor Henry Boyce and his family as of yet. 

    1847-1870 Clonadavaddog - registers.nli.ie/parishes 

    1847-1870 Clondavaddog - Ancestry.co.uk   Massmount Register 1847- Start Page 

    1847-1870 Clondavaddog - Familysearch.com   Massmount Register 1847- Start Page 

     

    You mentioned that some of your DNA matches are pointing toward Fanad. To try and help I am connecting a spreadsheet compiled from GEDMATCH https://www.gedmatch.com/login1.php 

    I don’t know if you have uploaded your DNA to GEDMATCH yet but it certainly would be worth doing and comparing results. I you were happy to communicate back your Gedmatch Kit number I might be able to triangulate your results for Fanad persons known and failing that at least it will be up here for other families in County Donegal to check for you also.  

    My Dads DNA Kit number: A252964 

    Kind Regards Seamus Callaghan 

    Clondavaddog Donegal, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Wednesday 5th May 2021, 08:53AM

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  • Seamus,

    Thank you for the quick response.  I actually did transfer my DNA results to GEDmatch about 6 months ago, however I have to be honest I am not that great with how to use it yet.  My kit number is KH1492542 I think I used "Winferd44" as my moniker on there.  Please let me know if there is anything I can do, I am all up for learning more about GEDmatch and if this helps someone else besides myself, I am all for it.  

    Jay Boyce

    James T.

    Wednesday 5th May 2021, 05:46PM
  • Seamus,

    I just looked up my one to many matches and your name is on the list and 15.6 cM's.  I think that means we are distantly related, but I am sure you know more than I.

     

    Jay

    James T.

    Wednesday 5th May 2021, 05:56PM
  • Hi Jay, 

    So sorry about the delay, I have been busily distracted the last few days but I have been coming back and forth to your query trying different things all the time. Thank you for sending on your Kit number, I was very surprised to see you coming up as a distant relation. There must be some far back connection to Fanad however because my Dads great grandfather and their ancestors before them as far back as we can go, were Callaghan, McElwaine, McGrenaghan and another Callaghan family and every one of the families came from Fanad. 

    My dads had a great-grandaunt called Cecilia Callaghan (Shiela) 

    https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/65656383/person/130058704410/facts 

    Who got married to a John Boyce, (O’Boyce)  

    https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/65656383/person/130058704328/facts 

    And they lived in the Townland of Drumany, Portsalon, Fanad 

    https://www.townlands.ie/donegal/kilmacrenan/clondavaddog/greenfort/drumany/ 

    Some of thier family were buried in Massmount Cemetery, Fanad   

    www.irishgraveyards.ie=Boyce Family buried in Massmount Chapel 

    I cannot be sure this is the connection as I have no Dna for that family on ancestry that I know of, and there were no records for their wedding as it was just before 1850’s but my dad has a Callaghan uncle (age 96) who confirmed this family connection of marrage to the Drumany Boyces many times and it was also passed down as knowledge throughout the family over the years. 

    Please don’t too excited with this as it is possible it might be a different connection as the name Duffy is another name common to and Donegal Fanad that might be a stong contender also. 

    Although I was surprised with the gedmatch family DNA connection result, it is a pity there was no other recognizable connections to Fanad. I have attached it here also,  

    KH1492542 *Winferd44 (J.Boyce) 

    A252964  *L.Callaghan (Seamus Callaghan) 

    People who match both kits, or 1 of 2 kits (select this from Gedmatch list) 

     

    If you don’t mind, I will lhave a bette rook at other connections over next few days such as maybe ancestry DNA also. 

    I will get back to you as soon as I can. 

    Seamus  

    Clondavaddog Donegal, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Sunday 9th May 2021, 10:14PM

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  • Thanks again for all that work Seamus.  No rush and definitely no need to apologize at all, because this is further than I have gotten in a year.  I was lead to the Fanad area by a distant relative from Derry that had a great aunt Margaret who was married to James Boyce who passed during the famine.  While not confirmed to date they did get information from an 1857 valuation that they were living in Ballymagahy, Clondavaddog parish on the Fanad Peninsula.  He also advised there was a cluster of Boyce's at portsalon at Drumaney but again just a hunch with no confirmation.  I am not sure if that helps you or not, however I wanted to share that with you just in case.  Additionally, on my Grandmother's side of the family were Mullin/McMullen, McLaughlin, and GGG Grandparents were McLaughlin, Doherty/Dougherty, McDonnell, Campbell, and Harvey if that helps.  Lastly, I have the burial plot for Old Cathedral Cemetery in Philadelphia that Henry Boyce bought which has Duffy's, most Boyce's, and one odd burial for what I think is a relative but have never confirmed.  The persons name was Connor Baron, which is not a surname I recognize from a short list my Father created befor he passed. I have to send that from my other PC but will attach when I have the chance.  Currently I am "semi-retired" so if there is anything I can do to help you please let me know.  I look forward to hearing back from you.

     

     

    I am pleasantly surprised we are connected, it was definitely une

    James T.

    Monday 10th May 2021, 11:58PM
  • Seamus

    Sorry about the delay and unfinished response. I meant to say that us being distantly related was a very unexpected and pleasant surprise, especially since it's been so hard to connect with people who have knowledge of their history.

    Attached are a few documents I received from a cousin in the U.S.. One is the Cemetery record of Henry Boyce which shows Conner Baron, William and Rose Duffy and Henry and Rose's children who had passed. Additionally I have attached a history of Rose/William Duffy who were the parents of Henry's wife Mary as well as their picture. I hope this helps.

    James T.

    Saturday 15th May 2021, 10:05PM

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  • Hi Jay,

    There are few things that you mentioned that did take a lot of my interest.

    “a distant relative from Derry that had a great aunt Margaret who was married to James Boyce who passed during the famine. While not confirmed to date they did get information from an 1857 valuation that they were living in Ballymagahy, Clondavaddog parish on the Fanad Peninsula.”

    As regards the relative that had a great aunt Margaret Boyce that lived in Ballymaghy, I looked this up and sure enough there was a Margaret Boyce as a householder in the Townland of Ballymagahy South.

    If you visit this sitelink below and add in the info below, it should bring up a short list of all the Boyce family names in Fanad. It displays the Griffith Valuation documents from back in 1857 and most impressively the old maps for that era also.

    www.askaboutireland.ie/ griffith-valuation/ Name Search

    Name: Boyce,

    County: Donegal,

    Parish: Clondavaddog

    (Pic attached)

    1857 Griffith Valuation: Margaret Boyce – 1 x Small House (House b) Ballymagahy South (PLOT 1a owned by )

    ________________________________________

    “Lastly, I have the burial plot for Old Cathedral Cemetery in Philadelphia that Henry Boyce bought which has Duffy's, most Boyce's, and one odd burial for what I think is a relative but have never confirmed. The persons name was Connor Baron, which is not a surname I recognize from a short list my Father created before he passed.”

    I wonder by any chance would it be possible that the Barron that is wrote down may be perhaps Barton?

    I do not know a lot about the Barton from Fanad, (Baptist, J family) but I do know he was a Landlord for the Portsalon area and would have had family there during in the 1800s..

    www.duchas.ie - check out: Landlord Barton

    1901 Census – Electoral Area of Greenfort (Portsalon), Fanad

    Area around Portsalon

    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Donegal/Greenfort/

    Drumany - Boyce family

    Springfield - Boyce family

    Croghross – Barton family
    (I had this researched prior to seeing you responce today)
    Chances are the name is probably Barron which is i think an unknown name in the Parish of Clondavaddog but common in southern Donegal.
    I attached a few screenshots...to help you search more about Boyce families around the Portsalon area.
    Thanks for posting the photos and cemetery documents, they are excellent
    Seamus

    Clondavaddog Donegal, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Sunday 16th May 2021, 06:16PM

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