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Higgins Family

Searching for Birth Micheal Higgins Killedan approx 1817 Spouse Mary ? Born around 1816
Martinus Higgins Born 1841 marriage 1862 Margarita Cardan various spellings Carlan, Carolan Microfilm 04224/14 p4 gives Witnesses I think Thomas Carroll could be Cardan and Hugo ? Would be grateful for any help in confirming
Thank You

Ann D

Monday 27th January 2020, 05:20AM

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  • The online parish records for Killedan parish in Mayo go back to 1834 for marriages, but only to 1861 for baptisms, so there won;t be formal birth or baptismal records prior to then (the civil birth records did not start until the 1860's either).

    I looked at the page you mentioned, and the marriage on 9 March 1862 was between Martin (Martinus) Higgins and Margaret (Margarita) Carolan.   The witnesses are Thomas (probably Tadhg) Carroll and Hugo (probably Aodh) Forde (a common surname in the area - you can see more Forde's on the facing page).  The Latinized forms of the names were created by the parish priest, and are not the names which the people actually used, although some of them eventually "stuck".

    Interestingly, I think my great-great-grandfather, Tadhg (Thadeus) Gallagher, is shown as a witness on the facing page, at the marriage of one of my other Gallagher relatives.

    kevin45sfl

    Tuesday 28th January 2020, 02:10AM
  • Thanks so much agree with you think I will stick with Carolan for future searches
    Appreciate your help .

    Ann D

    Tuesday 28th January 2020, 12:32PM
  • Hello Ann D
    I have Patrick Higgins marrying Mary Duffy in Kilmovee RC Church in May 1828. One of the witnesses was Patrick Carroll.
    I think Mary Duffy may have been from Cloonamna or Magheraboy.
    Patrick Higgins was my gg grandfather.
    His son James Higgins who married Bridget Griffin in 1857 was my g grandfather and was living in Uggool, Kilmovee in 1901.
    Pat Berry (Nee Higgins)

    patriciaberry38

    Friday 31st January 2020, 09:13PM
  • Hi Patricia Patrick could be a sibling of my 3xGrandfather Micheal Born 1817 haven't been able to go further back than this and cannot find marriage to Mary ?
    Micheal had 4 children 2 born Mayo Anne 1867 Bernard my Grt Grandfather 1863 then Micheal and John born England 1870 and 72
    Have just uploaded my DNA results to Ged Match hopefully will get some matches will contact if anything comes up
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    Ann D

    Sunday 2nd February 2020, 04:30PM
  • Hi Patricia Patrick could be a sibling of my 3xGrandfather Micheal Born 1817 haven't been able to go further back than this and cannot find marriage to Mary ?
    Micheal had 4 children 2 born Mayo Anne 1867 Bernard my Grt Grandfather 1863 then Micheal and John born England 1870 and 72
    Have just uploaded my DNA results to Ged Match hopefully will get some matches will contact if anything comes up
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    Ann D

    Sunday 2nd February 2020, 04:32PM
  • Hello Ann
    My Gedmatch Number is WF8929127
    Where in England did your ancestors go.
    My Grandfather James Higgins born 1871 in Uggool, Kilmovee went to Prescot, Lancashire and moved to Liverpool in 1905.
    Descendants of my Grandfather's brother Patrick went to Sale, Manchester, England.
    Regards
    Pat Berry

    patriciaberry38

    Monday 3rd February 2020, 10:51AM
  • Hi Pat My GedMatch code BV1003426 My Higgins Family came to Birkenhead late 1860,s 3 Generations worked as Dock Labourers on Census forms from 1871 onwards so not far from Liverpool

    Ann D

    Monday 3rd February 2020, 04:23PM
  • Ann, I have a total of 26 cM of match with you, with two segments which are each at least 7 cM in length.

    Patricia, I also have a total of 26 cM of match with you, but with a longest segment of only 4.6 cM.

    Not a huge amount of match, but it's actually more than the two of you share with one another.  Not surprising that we have some match, since one of my grandfathers grew up in Killedan parish.

    My kit number at GEDMATCH is T780556.

    kevin45sfl

    Monday 3rd February 2020, 06:31PM
  • Thanks Kevin you are my first connection with Pat to Irish Ancestors thrilled ! Unsure of how DNA works properly or how close we are as relatives do I need to do anything with your DNA code sorry complete novice

    Ann D

    Tuesday 4th February 2020, 10:24AM
  • The amount of DNA we share indicates a connection somewhere further back than we are likely to find in the available paper trail.  Many of the families in the area have been there for a very long time (several centuries at least, and even 1,000 years or more in some cases), so it's almost inevitable that we would be related, and we probably share several common ancestors.  If you end up locating any relatives in or near Killedan named Gallagher, King, Curraby/Creaby,. McNicoholas, Gill, or Campbell, then we might be able to figure ouut a connection.  Another branch of my family living nearby includes surnames such as McNulty, McDonnell, McAndrew, Loftus, Mulroy, and O'Neill.

    kevin45sfl

    Wednesday 5th February 2020, 11:08PM
  • Thanks Kevin appreciate your message unable to send this yesterday wouldn't post, will bear these names in mind when get thru my Brickwall and let you know

    Ann D

    Friday 7th February 2020, 05:17PM
  • Hello Kevin

    You say in your previous message that you have a 26cm DNA match to me.

    I have checked Gedmatch but I can't find you.

    I have also checked Ann's but can't find her as a match to me either..

    Do you have a tree on Ancestry.

    Regards

    Pat Berry

     

    patriciaberry38

    Tuesday 11th February 2020, 11:30AM