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Hugh Strain Sr (b abt 1800-1809) (d 1864-1865) in Muntermellan, Dunfanaghy, County Donegal married Hannah Strain (b1809 in Glenieraragh, Rosguill, County Donegal) in 1831 were my maternal great great grandparents. They lived in Muntermellan, Dunfanaghy, County Donegal, Ireland. I believe Hannah's maiden name was McBride, but not positive. Hannah Strain immigrated to Brooklyn NY USA in April 1866 with Edward, Catherine, and James after the death of Hugh Strain Sr and daughter Winnie Strain brought the youngest daughter Mary Ann on the next ship in 1866. Hugh and Hannah had 9 children all born in Muntermellan, Dunfanaghy, County Donegal, Ireland. In age order they were: 

Hugh Strain Jr (b1832) in Muntermellan married 1855 to Catherine McFadden (b1835) from Muntermellan, Dunfanaghy, County Donegal and raised their family for generations on the family farm in Muntermellan. They had 7 children: Catherine, Grace, Winnifred, Hugh III, Unity, Bridget, and Minnie. 

Anna Strain (b1833) in Muntermellan was married 1852 to Thomas Dolan (b1832) from County Kilkenny and they immigrated to Brooklyn NY USA in 1850. They had 5 children: Rachel, Ellen, Mary Ann, Theresa, and Katherine.

John Strain (b1840) married to Mary Morrison (b1845) from County Derry and they immigrated to Philadelphia PA USA. I only have record of oldest child, Elizabeth called Lizzy, but they had other children.

Edward Strain (b1841) immigrated to Brooklyn NY USA in 1864 and his mother joined him in April 1866. I have no record of his getting married to date to anone, but he did marry and have children.

Grace Strain (b1842) married Manus McFadden Sr (b1832) from Muntermellan, Dunfanaghy, County Donegal in February 1864, and they immigrated to Brooklyn NY USA in May 1864 with oldest daughter Mary Agnes McFadden and pregnant with Thomas Manus McFadden born in Brooklyn in 1864. They later migrated to Philadelphia PA and had 6 additional children:William John, Catherine, Manus Thomas Jr, Ellen, and James. 

Note: Manus Thomas McFadden Sr and Catherine McFadden who married Hugh Strain Jr were siblings.

Winnifred (Winnie) Strain (b1845) in Muntermellan and immigrated to Brooklyn NY USA in 1866 with her little sister Mary Ann Strain (b1858) to join her mother already in Brooklyn. Winnie appears in the Brooklyn Ward 22 New York 1870Census with Hannah, Edward, Caterine, James, and Mary Ann living together. Winnie never married and returned back to Muntermellan to live in the family home and farm with her oldest brother's family Hugh Strain Jr and Catherine McFaden Strain and children. She made many trips back and forth from Muntermellan to Brooklyn NY and Philadelphia visiting the familied of her siblings.

Catherine Strain (b1848) in Muntermellan and immigrated to Brooklyn NY USA with her mother in April 1866. I have no record of her marriage to anyone, but she did marry and had children in Philadelphia.

James Strain (b1850) in Muntermellan and immigrated to Brooklyn NY USA with his mother in April 1866. I have no record of his marriage to anone, but he did marry and have children.

Mary Ann Strain (b 8 May1858) in Muntermellan and immigrated to Brooklyn NY USA in 1866 with her sister Winnie to join her mother and other siblings. Mary Ann Strain married James Joseph Coyle (14 January 1858) from Glenieraragh, Glen, Rosguill, County Donegal, Ireland in Philadelphia PA on 24 November 1887. James Joseph Coyle immigrated to Queens NY USA with sisters Julia Coyle and Sarah Coyle in 1883. James Coyle and Mary ann Strain Coyle had 9 children: Mary Ann, Rose Ann, Peter James, James Francis, Catherine Bridget, Hugh Joseph, Julia Mary, Grace Dorothy, and John Joseph. 

Note: Hannah Strain was my maternal great-great grandmother; Mary Ann Strain was my was my maternal great grandmother; Rose Ann Coyle was my maternal grandmother; and our mtdna is haplogroup U5a1.

I am most interested in finding the spouse names and offspring for Edward Strain, Catherine Strain, and james Strain. I am also most interested in the maiden name of Hannah Strain who was married to Hugh Strain Sr.

 

Bill

Monday 31st May 2021, 07:33PM

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  • Bill:

    Unfortunately, the RC parish of Dunfanaghy does not have records until 1877 so no church marriage records are available in that church prior to 1864. In 1864, civil registration of RC marriages began although initally not all marriages were registered.

    Here is the 1864 marriage record for Grace Strain to Manus McFadden. 

    see fourth record    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_re…

    Civil death records also started in 1864 but I did not find a death record for Hugh Strain. Possibly his death was not registered.

    I have McFadden ancestors from the next parish to Clondahorky  (Raymunterdoney). Have you tested your DNA?

    Roger McDonnell

     

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Monday 31st May 2021, 08:31PM
  • BillReThanks Roger. Yes My DNA was tested by both FTDNA and 23 and me. My blood connection is with Grace Strain McFadden born in 1842. Grace is my great grandmother,s older sister. Since the connection is from my mother to my maternal grandmother and to my maternal great grandmother Mary Ann Strain Coyle, I share the same mtdna with Grace Strain McFadden, U5a1. Did you have your DNA done. I was given 2 different Maiden Names for their mother Hannah Strain McBride and McHugh from Glenieraragh, Rosguill, County Donegal where my Coyle cousins are from. My maternal great grandparents were James Joseph Coyle from Rosguill and Mary Ann Strain from Dunfanaghy and their naturalization and Marriage license from Philadelphia in 1887 shows they claimed to be 3rd cousins, however, a third Cousin on my Coyle (James Coyle's sister Sarah Coyle Guiry) side does not match my Strain-McFadden 3rd Cousins on 23 and me which leads me to believe James Coyle and Mary Ann Strain were not 3rd cousins by blood. Must be one of those family secrets. 
     

    Appears Mary Louise Streep (Meryl Streep, the actress) is my third cousin once removed, Manus McFadden and Grace Strain McFadden are her maternal great great grandparents. She must share the same mtdna, U5a1, but she had it done from a differentl source than I mentioned above.  You can google her DNA. 

    Regards Bill

     

    Bill

    Wednesday 21st Jul 2021, 01:43AM
  • Bill:

    I've tested on FamilyTree, Ancestry and my data are also on Gedmatch and MyHeritage. I also have taken the mtDNA test on FamilyTree but my pure maternal line goes thru Co. Down not Co. Donegal. 
     

    My FamilyTree DNA number is 299474.

    As an aside, Ancestry DNA suggests that my McFadden Gr-gr grandfather may have had a Strain mother.

    Roger

     

     

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Wednesday 21st Jul 2021, 11:45PM
  • hope this clears things up better

     

    BillHi Roger: I was a bit confusing.  Yes, my mtDNA Haplogroup is U5a1.  My grandmother is Rose Ann Coyle Hueber.  My maternal great grandparents are James Joseph Coyle and Mary Ann Strain Coyle.  My great great grand parents are Hugh Strain Jr and Catherine McFadden Strain which is who my mtDNA follows. My great great great grandparents are  Hugh Strain Sr and Hannah McBride Strain.  Both Hugh Strain Sr and Hugh Strain Jr had daughters named Grace Strain.  It was Hugh Strain SR's daughter Grace Strain who married Manus McFadden and is Meryl Streep' great great great grandparents. Hugh Strain Jr married Manus McFadden's younger Sister Catherine McFadden who are my great great grandparents.  Their daughter Grace Strain married Patrick Tarsnane  and their children have same mtDNA as me.  Meryl Streep's mtDNA is K12b2 which is the same as Grace Strain McFadden which follows her mother Hannah McBride Strain  also both Hugh Strain Sr and Hugh Strain Jr had a daughter Mary Ann Strain as well as many other children of both using same given names over and over again, must be an Irish Catholic thing or they believe consistency is for the absent minded, for me it caused confusion. The name Winifred and Winnie for short was used almost in every generation. Hugh Strain Jr and Catherine McFadden's family show up in the 1901 and 1911 Muntamellan Census, but could not find earlier censuses for their older children, have to rely on family records and official records in USA, mainly in Philadelphia, New York, and New Jersey for the older generations. As for Jimmy Laferty, believe he was born in June 1841 and died in 2016.  His grand mother was Ellen Strain McHugh, daughter of Hugh Strain Jr and Catherine McFadden, and his mother was Hannah McHugh Lafferty, no idea of his father's name, cannot find him.  The Hannah McHugh name was found by accident, and I am therefore assuming his grandmother Ellen Strain married a McHugh. He was a DNA match to Meryl Streep if you believe the story published on google.  Hope this clears things up better. 
     

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    Bill

    Saturday 15th Jan 2022, 10:19PM
  • Roger Do you live in Ireland or USA?

    Bill

    Saturday 15th Jan 2022, 10:23PM
  • Roger Do you live in Ireland or USA?

    Bill

    Saturday 15th Jan 2022, 10:23PM
  • Bill:

    I grew up in Philadelphia but have lived in Maryland for the last 50 years. Both my maternal lines go back to Co. Donegal but the pure maternal line is in East Donegal so we don't have any mtDNA connection.

    Muntermellan is about 7.5 miles northwest from where my McFaddens lived in Derryreel but as I indicated Ancestry hints indicate that I may have Strain connections way back.

    What is your last name or user name on FTDNA so I can see if we have a distant match. Thanks!

    Roger

     

     

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Sunday 16th Jan 2022, 05:34PM
  •  

    I  too grew up in northeast Philly.  I was born in Frankford section and baptized a Saint Joachim Catholic Church on Church Street and lived on Salem Street till I was 5 years old. Then we moved to Bridesburg where several of my siblings still live. I was a Navy Engineer and moved to Slidell Louisiana with my Job in 1996 and been here ever since and at age 68 I am retired. 
     
    my Coyle ancestors immigrated from Glenieragh, Glen, Rosguill, County Donegal to Philadelphia and Brooklyn abt 1870s and 1880s  The Strains and immigrated from Muntermellan, not far from Horn Head,  to New York between 1855 and 1870.

    Manus McFadden and Grace Strain McFadden immigrated in 1864 to Philadelphia, but quickly migrated to an area called Jim Thorpe Pennsylvania. The next generation migrated to Bethlehem Pennsylvania, believe it is in the Lehigh County  from there some migrated back to Philadelphia two generations ago from mine. Tthe McFaddens Cousins lived in Frankford and Kensington hoods  

    my great grandmother, Mary Ann Strain Coyle, daughter of Hugh Strain Jr and Catherine McFadden Strain, immigrated in 1887 from Muntermellan to Philadelphia in 1887 and her husband James Joseph Coyle immigrated the same year from Rosguill to Philadelphia shortly before.  They married in Philadelphia in 1887 and had 9 children.  Their naturalization papers signed in 1914 indicated they were third cousins. Caused a bit of confusion with some of my DNA family comparisons on 23 and me  Grace Strain McFadden was my great grandfather's sister and her husband Manus McFadden was my Great Grandmother Catherine McFadden's older brother  I kind of have Strong DNA comparison with the Strain, Coyle, and McFaddens for the above obvious reasons

     I went to All Saints Grade School, Northeast Catholic HS in my freshman and sophomore year, transferred to Frankford HS in my sophomore year and there till the beginning of my senior year when I joined the Navy on my 18th birthday in 1972, and finished high school at Aiea HS in Hawaii  after 4 years of service I came home to Philadelphia and went to Drexel University earning a BSEE, MSEE, and MS in Engineering Management using the GI Bill and the navy paid for my graduate school education. I served the navy for over 36 years of my life  

    my cousins included, Hueber, Morrows, Walsh, McLauchlins, Killian, Hinkie, Coyle, Fahy, Murphy, Tarsnane, and others all tied to Coyle, Strain, and McFadden ancestors and living in Philadelphia and spread all over the country  

    I highly recommend 23 and me DNA because of all the matches you can communicate with, it is becoming very popular today, but costly and best too easy to join is around holidays  it is much better than FTDNA that I did my 67 marker test with in 2007 and all the advanced testing between 2007 and 2011  

    I have a very large tFTM under my name on ancestry.com I am still trying to catch up with the newer generations that is a never ending job without help From my cousins and even my own younger siblings 

    Regards

    Wilbert J Morell III

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Bill

    Monday 17th Jan 2022, 09:32AM
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    BillRoger. Is your surname McFadden, if not, what is it

     

    Bill

    Monday 17th Jan 2022, 09:41AM
  • Bill:

    Surname is McDonnell. I'm about four years older than you. I grew up in St. Ambrose parish on Roosevelt Blvd. not far from Hunting Park. Went to school there and then went to Cardinal Dougherty and La Salle College.

    My great-grandmother Catherine McFadden left Donegal around 1868 and went to Philadelphia. I have found three of her siblings who also went to Philadelphia. She married another Donegal emigrant Robert Brennan in 1873 (he was from the Lifford area on the east side of Donegal). Catherine had eleven children but only five survived to adulthood.

    I have tested with Ancestry and FTDNA and my data is also on Gedmatch and MyHeritage. I think on Ancestry I'm shown as R.M. I will look for your tree. 

    Roger

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Tuesday 18th Jan 2022, 02:25PM

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