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Hello,

I am attempting to locate a birth record for my great great great grandfather Hugh Quinn. I do not know an exact place of birth, but judging from US census records, I suspect that he was born during the summer in June/July/August in 1838-1841.

He emigrated to the United States in the late 1850s, and moved to Union County, Kentucky. He promptly married in 1862, had 5 children, and then abandoned the family in 1876. At which point he disappears from the US census until 1910 where he is living in a house next door to one of his sons. 

I have found some articles in a Kentucky newspaper that explain that in 1904 he was in trouble with the law for various minor offenses (stealing a coat, and then stealing the lines off of a horse).

I recently took a YDNA test, and had Dr. Bowes and Irishorigenes.com take a look at my YDNA67 results, and he is estimating that my family likely came from the Drumlish area in county Longford, or across the way in county Leitrim.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Sincerely,

Kellen Quinn

 

Ksquinn

Thursday 9th May 2013, 03:36PM

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    My Quinn relatives in the United States know little about Hugh Quinn, but it has been alleged that he claimed that both of his parents were already deceased by the time that he came to the US, and that he served for a time on ships.

    By trade Hugh Quinn was a carpentar.

    Ksquinn

    Thursday 9th May 2013, 03:39PM
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    1826/4 Quinn, Michael Hugh M. McDonnell
    1828/8 Quinn, Michael Hugh M. McDonnell
    1830/4 Quinn, Thomas Hugh M. McDonnell
    1832/2 Quin, Ann Hugh M. McDonnell
    1836/1 Quin, Peter Hugh M. McDonnell
    1839/10 Quin, Hugh Hugh M. McDonnell

    Birth records for Killoe parish.Longford http://www.igp-web.com/longford/killoebaptq.htm Hope this helps.

    clonbroneyite

    Thursday 9th May 2013, 11:42PM
  • I copied and pasted the above info but it printed out of order.

    It should read 1826/4 Quinn,Michael,parents Hugh (Quinn) and M. McDonnell etc.It's likely that the first child died before the age of 2 and so the second boy was also christened Michael. This is common and gives an indication that the paternal grandfather's name was Michael as the eldest boy was traditionally called after his father's father. I may have helped you get back another generation. Unfortunately church records don't go back much beyond these dates. Killoe was a huge parish and included the Cloone area of Co. Leitrim if memory serves me correctly. So none the wiser as to whether he was from Longford or Leitrim.

    clonbroneyite

    Friday 10th May 2013, 12:06AM
  • I am glad that you mentioned that. Earlier today I found a Hugh Quinn on the 1901 and 1911 census who was born around the right time, but is not my ggg grandfather, as he would have already been in the United States. However, what did get my attention was that this Hugh Quinn in the Irish census was a carpenter as was all of his male children. I wonder if this particular Hugh Quinn in the census is a cousin to my Hugh Quinn? I assume the trade would be something they would have learned from their own father the generation previous. 

    I didn't realize that Ireland also used that naming scheme. I have some experience with Italian genealogy, and the Italians likewise named their children that way.

    Ksquinn

    Friday 10th May 2013, 12:21AM
  • I have been told that I am related to Wards of Ballinamuck but so far haven't been able to figure out the connection. The name Bernard was also carried down that line. It might be a starting point as regards cemeteries but very early graves often don't have head-stones with names or they can be eroded by time and weather.Ballinamuck is very near Drumlish.

    Given the carpenter history it's no surprise that the family doesn't show in the Tithe Applotments.They may not have farmed.Have you tried to find more on Hugh's naughty past ? Newspaper articles or the Assize or Quarter Sessions (a type of court ) ? Longford County Library should be able to help you.

    clonbroneyite

    Friday 10th May 2013, 12:43AM
  • Nope, his troubles with the law occured in the United States. I have contacted the court that would have had jurisdicition over him in those matters, and they essentially told me that his crimes were so petty that records pertaining to them probably no longer exist. The newspaper articles in 1904 in Kentucky are really the only documents that I have that tie him to Kentucky after he abandoned the family in the late 1870s.

    I cannot prove it, but some in my family believe that a man named Hugh Quinn who was a carpenter, that was living on an indian reservation in Oklahoma may be my ggg grandfather after he abandoned the family. I have not discounted it, but a single census isn't much in the way of proof.

    Right now I have decided that the best thing that I can do is continue to reach out to my distant Quinn relatives in the US to see if anyone can tell me more useful details about Hugh Quinn.

    If Hugh Quinn really did serve on ships before coming to the United States, where would I look to find a record of that?

    Ksquinn

    Friday 10th May 2013, 12:54AM
  • That's a tough question.Maybe see if there are records of merchant sea-men in the UK. As regards his disappearance, I presume you have tried the Canadian census ? Was there any type of gold-rush or something along that line that might have tempted him ? Have you posted a message on rootsweb  mentioning what you know ? I find it's a very good way to find possible relatives.

    clonbroneyite

    Friday 10th May 2013, 01:25AM
  • Try www.nationalarchives.gov.uk -They have records of merchant seamen.

    clonbroneyite

    Monday 2nd Sep 2013, 12:53AM

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