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I am looking for information on my ggrandmother Margaret Hamilton married to John Jackson in Ringclare.
With thanks
Denise Ford nee Jackson my

Denny

Monday 26th Oct 2020, 10:01PM

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  • Denise,

    Can you give us some information as to when these people were born or married? Also what denomination(s) are we looking at? I have searched the statutory records for 1845 -1921 but don’t see any marriage between a John Jackson and Margaret Hamilton in Ireland. Was the marriage outside those dates or perhaps outside Ireland?

     

    Elwyn

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Monday 26th Oct 2020, 10:27PM
  • Hello Elwyn
    I gathered a lot of information from the Newry, Donaghmore, Loughbrickland & Banbrige web site. In there is Donaghmore register of Baptisms & Marriages.
    My ggrandfather robert jackson came out to an uncle William who married Nancy McKeown 1/10/1851 from ringclare. William was an uncle to my robert. William's fathwr was john jackson married to jane baird.
    Hope this helps
    Regards
    Denise Ford nee Jackson

    Denny

    Wednesday 28th Oct 2020, 05:20AM
  • The Ros Davies website has the death of John Jackson of Ringclare in 1847, as well as mention of William Jackson’s marriage:

    http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~rosdavies/genealogy/SURNAMES/J/Ja.htm

    William Jackson’s marriage:

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1851/09415/5410947.pdf

    One Jackson family still farming in Ringclare in 1901:

    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Donaghmore/Ringclare/1244808/

    and in 1911:

    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Donaghmore/Ringclare/253644/

    The mother was Henrietta Lagrove. Daughter Laura’s birth here:

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1909/01596/1641599.pdf

    From the places of birth ie France & Egypt, I’d guess William was in the army and met Henrietta while on service overseas. No marriage for them in Ireland but it might be in the overseas records held by GRO in Southport, England.

    The Northern Whig of 24th Aug 1931 has mention of Samuel George Jackson of Ringclare who had joined Wendy’s letter club (a childrens club.) Likewise Mary Jane Jackson of Ringclare on 28th March 1932.

    Newry Reporter of 16th April 1910 reports that William Jackson had been warned about his son George’s poor attendance at school and had been served a final warning notice.

    Newry reporter of 6th June 1901 reports a civil court case where William Jackson of Ringclare sought to recover a debt of £17 from John Kidd of Augheravarn and Eliza McKelvey. The court awarded him the money.

    Newry Reporter of 27th October 1908 reports that the Jackson farm was in an unsanitary state, the problem being Mr Jackson’s failure to cement the house combined with manure and water from the nearby Sloane farm flowing into the foundations of the Jackson home. Mr Sloane agreed to clear his cattle yard and make  a new drain to stop the problem. Mr Jackson agreed to cement his house.

    Belfast Newsletter of 4th August 1942 has a letter from Colin Johnston Robb of Loughgall which mentions in passing that Robert Jackson of Ringclare had a will probated in 1808. (The will itself was destroyed in the 1922 fire in Dublin). The rest of the letter is all about the ancestors of General Stonewall Jackson (whose grandfather reportedly came from Co Down) and relates to genealogical research into Stonewall Jackson’s background. There’s no suggestion he’s connected to the Ringclare family.

    Newry Reporter of 27th June 1911 has another report about drainage problems at the Jackson farm which had been discussed at a local council meeting. According to the newspaper report Mrs Sloane had allowed a waste pie to become blocked and as a consequence the Jackson farm was getting the Sloane’s effluent. There was a terrible smell about the place. Mrs Sloane proposed to remedy the situation.

    Newry Herald of 9th March 1858 reports the marriage of Robert Jackson of Ringclare to Elizabeth Boyd of Ringolish at Donaghmore Presbyterian church. Marriage cert here:

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1858/09556/5464757.pdf

    Robert was the son of John Jackson.

    Probate abstract from the PRONI wills site. (The will itself is in PRONI in paper format. You can view it free if you go in person or they will copy it for a fee):

    Jackson Robert of Ringclare Donaghmore county Down farmer died 18 August 1955 at the Hospital Banbridge county Down Probate Belfast 31 October to John Jackson labourer. Effects £676 10s.

    George & William Jackson of Ringclare both signed the Ulster Covenant in 1912 (which tells you they opposed Irish Home Rule). You can see their signatures on the Covenant website:

    https://apps.proni.gov.uk/ulstercovenant/SearchResults.aspx

    PRONI has a bundle of leases for land in Ringclare dated c 1840 in D2666/3/52. There could well be a Jackson lease amongst those papers.

    The tithe applotment records for 1829 show John Jackson farming in Ringclare:

    http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/down/tithe-applotment-books/donaghmore-parish.php

    Griffiths Valuation of 1864 lists Robert Jackson as tenant of the Ringclare farm. It was plot 14 and was 14 acres. There were 3 labourer’s cottages on the farm at that time.

    The Valuation revision records show the farm remaining in Robert’s name till 1904 when William took over. Robert had bought the freehold in 1896.

    Donaghmore Presbyterian church’s records start in 1804 and the Church of Ireland’s in 1783. You will probably struggle to get back earlier than that due to lack of records. The family being Presbyterian and living in Co Down indicates they are probably descended from Scots who settled in the area in the 1600s.

     

     

    Elwyn

     

     

     

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Wednesday 28th Oct 2020, 07:20AM
  • Dear Elwyn
    Thank you so much for this information. I live in south Australia. My robert and his brother john came out to south Australia in 1858 on the stambul. Their uncle william(brother to john that is buired in donaghmore cemetry) married nancy mckweon in donaghmore, came out just after they were married about 1852. Many of the family came out to South Australia and of the records i have here Robert that married Elizabeth Boyd stayed in ireland. He kept the farm then his son william who married Henrietta from france took it on. The jacksons still live in the area and the farm house is lived in by a relative. Roberts brother john that married Margaret Hamilton is the Hamilton's i am trying to find info on. I will look at all of the information you have given me. Very much appreciated with many thanks
    Denise Ford nee Jackson

    Denny

    Wednesday 28th Oct 2020, 10:37PM

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