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James Henry Warner (3 May 1841 – 1912) born to Catherine Williams and John Warner in Mitchelstown, Cork.  James is believed to be a younger son. 

At the age of twenty-three James sought a character reference from the Reverend John A Bolster (believed to be his uncle) and paid his own passage to Australia.  James is educated, being able to read and write which is noted in his immigration record. The most likely immigration record is one for a passenger on the ship Champion of the Seas … James Worner Irish about 24 years – arrived 17 Nov 1864 Melbourne, Victoria departed from Liverpool.

The reference from the Reverend John A Bolster, describes James ... as a parishioner of mine whom I hold in high esteem. His family are most respectable and I really do not know a better conducted or more acceptable young man.  The reference is written from Wood Hill, Cork.

It was originally thought that James came immediately to Queensland as recorded on his death certificate, however this is contradicted by several documents referring to his early years as a miner in Daylesford, Victoria.  It’s unlikely that James made his fortune on the Victorian goldfields and after four years James settled in Queensland and established a successful police career from June 1868.

The attached pic is stamped/embossed Cork in the bottom right hand corner so assumed the picture was taken as James was leaving for Australia. 

Interested in connecting with Warner descendants, piecing together James immediate family if possible, verifying if the Rev John Bolster was James’ uncle. Any help appreciated and thank you.

Peta

Peta S

Thursday 24th June 2021, 10:33AM

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  • Peta:

    You have a great picture of James Henry Warner. If you get an opportunity, could you add his story to our Chronicles site?  https://irelandxo.com/ireland-xo/history-and-genealogy

    You don't mention whether James was Church of Ireland or Roman Catholic. The subscription site Roots Ireland has records for both churches going back before 1826 yet when I searched, I did not find any children of John Warner and his wife Catherine. Possibly he was baptized in a church which no longer has records back to 1826 and then the family moved to Mitchelstown?

    I did not find any info on the Rev. Bolster.

    Roger McDonnell

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Thursday 24th June 2021, 04:44PM
  • Thanks Roger, I am waiting on moderation for the Chronicle entry.  James was a parishioner of St James Anglican Church in Toowoomba.  Definately not RC as James' son William (my GGrandfather) married an RC girl and it was 'quite a to do' amongst the siblings.  Interesting about the Rev Bolster in all my years of searching I couldn't uncover anything either but the reference  to which I refer is counter signed by a Dean in Melbourne, Victoria (where James would have disembarked)  claiming that he knew the Rev and that the reference was legit.  Thanks for your quick reply. 

    Peta S

    Thursday 24th June 2021, 09:49PM
  • Peta:

    One of our volunteers, Shane Wilson, found a reference to Rev. Bolster and here is the info Shane provided.

    " From at least 1863 to 1868 (close to the time that letter was written) Rev. John Abraham Bolster A.M was Church of Ireland incumbent of Killaspugmullane (sometimes as Killaspigmullane ) parish union"

    Killaspugmullane parish is much further south from Mitchelstown and is closer to the town of Glanmire.

    Roger

     

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Thursday 24th June 2021, 10:50PM
  • OOhh thank you and thanks to Shane.  I will follow that line. 

    PS

    Peta S

    Thursday 24th June 2021, 11:12PM
  • Peta:

    Shane found some additional info which ties to the Wood Hill reference in your note.

    " a little more on Rev. Bolster - directory listings (e.g. 1867 Henry and Coghlan ) show him living at Wood Hill Terrace which was near to Wood Hill house, this was off Lower Glanmire Road to the east of Cork city. The terrace and house are shown on the 1st edition OS map.  Two additional details - he is listed at the same parish back to 1848 at least and seems to remain there until he retired, he died at Woodhill terrace in 1883."

    Roger

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Friday 25th June 2021, 12:42PM
  • Peta:

    Some more good news from Shane. Based on his finding, your Warner family was likely from Mitchellsfort townland in Kilquane civil parish Co. Cork rather than the town of Mitchelstown. This explains why the Rev. Bolster had a parish a good deal away from Mitchelstown.

    Roger

    "John A. Bolster's wife was an Anna Maria Young, she's mentioned in his probate entry, they married near Nenagh, Co. Tipperary in 1848, the minister was a Samuel B. Young, and the two witnesses were also Young - possible relations ? Samuel B. Young is listed as John A. Bolster's curate at Killaspugmullane Parish Union in 1848 (Thom's Ecclesiastical Directory).

    Killaspugmullane was a parish Union and also included the civil parishes of Cannaway (Cannaboy), Kilquane (Kilcoan), Ballydelohar (Ballyloohera) and Tempeusque, using this list of parishes along with the surname Warner on a Griffith's Primary Valuation search (FMP) shows  just one result, a John Warner at Mitchellsfort townland, Kilquane civil parish Barrymore barony (there's more than one Kilquane in Co. Cork) , he is listed occupying House, office and land of a little over 122 acres, he also sub-lets a small property. Could Mitchellsfort have been misheard/misunderstood and confused with Mitchelstown ?
     

    Unfortunately it's not looking good for records for this CofI parish Union, most of the early records are listed as lost, just marriages from 1848 seem to have survived, which should be covered by civil records ".

     

     

     

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Friday 25th June 2021, 06:15PM
  • Peta:

    More from Shane.

    Roger

    There's a possible sibling to James Warner at the townland in  1901 and 1911 -  Thomas Warner and family, his marriage cert shows father as John Warner a farmer... :

    1901 census : http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cork/Knockraha/Mitchellsfort/1139947/
    1911 census : http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Knockraha/Mitchellsfort/407733/

    Thomas born c1831

    Marriage of THOMAS WARNER and ELIZABETH SADLIER on 05 January 1865
      https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/2e9e733077242

    groom occ. farmer res. Watergrass Hill father John Warner farmer
    bride res. Queenstown, father David, Shoemaker
    witnesses : John Sadlier & William Warner

     

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Friday 25th June 2021, 06:21PM
  • Thank you, thank you Shane and Roger. So many leads to follow. I'll need some time to cross check all this against the snippets and documents i have and comb through for any hints that I've miseed.  Thank you, your help means so much.  

    Peta S

    Friday 25th June 2021, 08:55PM