Looking for John burns he would have lived in Witney Oxfordshire in the 1950s his mother was a Glynn any help appreciated
Wednesday 7th Sep 2022, 04:46PM
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Burns may turn up on record as Byrne, Beirne as well. Also "John" may have been going by his second name. Do you have a ballpark year of birth?
Then you can try a free search on Irish Genealogy filtering the mother's surname GLYNN.
Hope this helps!
Rua, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘︎
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Hello,
To add to the information Rua kindly provided, the subscription ancestry.com website has three 20th century civil registration birth indexes for a John Burns/Byrne/Byrnes. One of these indexes may refer to the birth of the person you are looking for.
The first index below shows that the birth of John L. Byrne was registered in Dublin North in December of 1929. His mother’s maiden name is Glynn. The mother’s first name and the name of the father are not recorded in the index, which follows:
Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958
Name: John L Byrne
Birth Date: 1929
Birth Place: Ireland
Birth Registration Date: Dec 1929
Birth Registration Place: Dublin North, Ireland
Mother: Glynn
Volume: 2
Page: 327
FHL Film Number: 101231
Source Information
Ancestry.com. Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958 [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.
Original data: "Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes 1845–1958,” Index. FamilySearch, Salt Lake City, Utah. General Register Office, Republic of Ireland. "Quarterly Returns of Births in Ireland with Index to Births.".
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Dublin North refers to Dublin City, north of the River Liffey. For example, a Google Map shows the location of the General Post Office (GPO), O’Connell Street, is north of the River Liffey, Dublin City, but the National Library of Ireland, Kildare Street, is south of the River Liffey in Dublin City: https://tinyurl.com/mry5ext7
The second index shows that the birth of John Burns was registered in Loughrea, Ireland in December of 1932. Loughrea is a townland in County Galway. The index shows that the maiden name of John’s mother is Glynn. Her first name and the name of John’s father are not recorded in the index, which follows:
Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958
Name: John Burns
Birth Date: 1932
Birth Place: Ireland
Birth Registration Date: Dec 1932
Birth Registration Place: Loughrea, Ireland
Mother: Glynn
Volume: 4
Page: 196
FHL Film Number: 101232
Source Information
Ancestry.com. Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958 [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.
Original data: "Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes 1845–1958,” Index. FamilySearch, Salt Lake City, Utah. General Register Office, Republic of Ireland. "Quarterly Returns of Births in Ireland with Index to Births.".
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The third index from ancestry.com shows the birth of John J. Byrnes was recorded in Ennistimon, Ireland in June of 1945. Ennistimon, also spelled, “Ennistymon,” is located in County Clare, near Ireland’s west coast. John’s mother’s maiden name is Glynn. The index is below:
Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958
Name: John J Byrnes
Birth Date: 1945
Birth Place: Ireland
Birth Registration Date: Jun 1945
Birth Registration Place: Ennistimon, Ireland
Mother: Glynn
Volume: 4
Page: 159
FHL Film Number: 101237
Source Information
Ancestry.com. Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958 [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.
Original data: "Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes 1845–1958,” Index. FamilySearch, Salt Lake City, Utah. General Register Office, Republic of Ireland. "Quarterly Returns of Births in Ireland with Index to Births."
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As noted by Rua, birth records can be ordered from the General Register Office (GRO) in Ireland. A photocopy of the birth record is 5 Euros. A certified copy of the birth record for legal and administrative purposes, is 20 Euros. If you want a birth record for the purpose of family research, order the less expensive photocopy.
For more information about ordering birth, marriage, and death records from the GRO, go to: https://tinyurl.com/54rd9nc3
Rua had suggested looking for the marriage of a Burns and Glynn at the free irishgenealogy.ie website. I found the possible marriage record for the parents of John Burns at irishgenealogy.ie. This John Burns was the child born in 1932.
The marriage record shows the marriage of a Patrick Burns and Mary Glynn took place in the Roman Catholic Church of Athenry, County Galway, on February 9, 1928. At the time of marriage Patrick had been a bachelor and Mary a spinster. Patrick’s occupation is “Farmer.” His residence at the time of marriage was “Leickla,” though I couldn’t find a townland by that name in County Galway. The marriage record also shows that Patrick’s father was Martin Burns, a “Farmer.”
Mary Glynn’s occupation is “Farmer.” Her residence at the time of marriage was Cuddo. Her father is John Glynn, of Cuddo. No occupation is recorded for John Glynn.
The priest who married Patrick and Mary was M. Farragher, P.P. The initials P.P. stand for “Parish Priest.” The witness to the marriage were Michael Burns and Maggie Glynn. Michael was probably the brother of the groom and Maggie the sister of the bride. The marriage was recorded in the Loughrea, Galway, Registration District on 1 March 1928 by the registrar, whose initials are J.K. You can access a copy of the original marriage record after following the prompts at: https://tinyurl.com/mryut9pz
If you order the 1932 birth record for John Burns, see if his parents are Patrick Burns and Mary Glynn.
With Best Wishes,
Dave Boylan
davepat