John Farley and Mary Regan who left County Cork, Ireland around 1869

Maureen:

Welcome to Ireland Reaching Out!

Not having much luck looking for Mary regan. I searched on www.irishgenealogy.ie and Roots Ireland and did not find a Mary Regan with parents Cornelius and Honor. On Roots I extedned the search for all of Ireland. There are a couple possiblities down in Schull parish but the mother's names were Ellen or Anne. Knowing Honor's maiden name will be very helpful.

John Farley is going to be difficult since you don't have parents names. There are John Farrell records but no John Farley so far.

For both Mary and John, it is possible they were from another county but left from Co. Cork for America.

Have you located a death record for either Mary or John?

Let me know.

Roger McDonnell

Thank yiou so much for your time, Roger!

Re:  John Farley (and Mary Farley)  I do not have a copy of John or Mary's death certificate although I can get one from the State of NJ.  Although they are not near as helpful or quick as you and way more expensive :-(   I will order them and update you as I find out.  I have no documentation saying they are from County Cork.  This is just a rumor passed down from my grandmother.

Re:  Cornelius and Honora Regan.... or the parents of Mary and Daniel and/or Ellen and/or Michael.  We are quite sure that Mary and Daniel are brother and sister.  And Ellen and Michael may be cousins or their siblings.  I listed below what I have/know.  Maybe one of the following parent choices will be the right one.

Option A - Cornelius Regan and Honora Leary of East Schull, Schull, Cork and Ross baptized a Daniel on 19 Dec 1838.  Can you also see if they had children named Mary, born Aug 1845, Ellen  and Michael?,  (Cornelius and Honora Regan are listed as parents of Daniel and Mary on their marriage certificates.)

If Ellen and Michael are not children of the Cornelius and Honora Leary Regan, maybe one of these parents listed below could be related to Cornelius or Honora making Ellen and Michael cousins of Mary and Daniel.  

Option B -  Michael Regan and Honora McCarthy of Cork and Ross who baptized an Ellen in May of 1838..  

Option C - Cornelius Regan and Hanora McCarthy a DNA matched descendant lists them as Michael's  parents.

Option D - Mary Cahalane (transcribed from handwriting so name could be something similar) and David Regan baptized an Ellen Regan in Diocese or Cork and Ross on 23 Jan 1835.  

***Please note that  I share DNA with the descendants of Ellen, Mary, Daniel and Michael.  So we are looking for a sister/brother or cousin connection between all 4****

I hope this doesn't sound too confusing.   Please let me know if I need to clarify further.  Thanks so much!  Maureen

Hi Maureen,

The 1871 Marriage record in New Jersey lists John Farley's parents as Edward & Mary.

There is a very bad image for a Joen / John Farly in County Tyrone born October 1845 to Edward Farly and Mary Hughes. 3rd Record from top, page on right.

https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632620#page/23/mode/1up

Regards

Maureen:

Cornelius and Honora married in Schull East on February 2, 1823. They had a number of children including a Mary in 1824. See below.  Also Denis 1826 Ellen 1828 Michael 1830 John 1836 Daniel 1838 Catherine 1844 One possibility is that the 1824 Mary died young and they had a later child Mary and the record does not show up on www.irishgenealogy.ie  Here is the parish register https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0094  maybe you can scan the register.

Roger

Area - CORK & ROSS (RC) , Parish/Church/Congregation - SCHULL EAST

Baptism of MARY REGAN of N/R on 24 April 1824

NameMARY REGANDate of BirthN/R N/R N/RAddressN/RFatherCORNS REGANMotherHONORA LEARY

Sponsor 1DENS LEARYSponsor 2MARY COTTERRecorded Diocesan AreaCORK & ROSSRecorded Parochial AreaEAST SCHULL

Oh, WOW, Roger, thanks for this great info! This is the link between the siblings that we were looking for. I am the other "distant relative" that Maureen referenced above. I am in Ellen's line (b; 1828). Using the information that you gave me, I have found her exact baptismal record and have copied it. THANK YOU!

Also, THANK YOU for the date of marriage (Feb. 2, 1923) of Cornelius Regan and Honora Leary. In that particular record, there are two names listed underneath: Denis Regan and Denis Leary. Are those the DAD'S names of these two individuals? 

I would like to find the date of birth of both Cornelius Regan and Honora Leary. Would you be able to help me with that? 

Thank you again! 

Cindy 

I would also like to know the date of death, and burial location of Cornelius Regan and Honora Leary, if that information is available. Thank you! Cindy 

Cindy/Maureen:

The two Denis' on the marriage records were witnesses and likely brothers to the bride and groom. The Schull records start in October 1807  https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0094  I did not see a Cornelius Regan or Honora Leary baptismal record in Schull around 1807-1809 and also even if born in late 1807, they would be 15 at marriage. Not likely

Civil registration of deaths started in 1864. I did locate an 1875 index record which is a possibility. Images of death records start in 1878 but the older records e.g. 1875 should be placed online in the next year. Other wise you have to write to the GRO. Did not see a record for Honora.

Group Registration IDN/RSR District/Reg AreaSchullDeceased Age at Death79Returns Year1875Returns Quarter1Returns Volume No5Returns Page No520

Roger

Thanks so much, Roger! 

We are still looking for the birth of another Mary (around 1844) to Cornelius Regan and Honora Leary. I found a baptismal record (for Mary Regan) in East Schull for November 16, 1844 but no parents are listed. I am having difficulty reading and interpreting that entry. Would you be able to take a look at that entry and let me know what it means? 

Do you show any death records for the first Mary (born in 1824)? I am wondering if she died as a child and then another child was named Mary. 

Thank you. 

Cindy 

Cindy:

That is a record of an adult named Mary Regan being received into the church in the presence of two witnesses.

Roger

Roger, Can you please tell me (from the information above) the exact name of the church or parish Where Cornelius & Honora were married and where each of the children were baptized. When I look online, I see a St. Mary's Catholic Church in Schull, and there is a very old (decrepit) church south of the town. Are these two the correct places, should I desire to visit them? Thanks. Cindy 

Cindy:

This background may help  http://mizenparish.com/schull/story-of-the-church/

Roger

And thank you to Gerard, liason lackagh, for your hrlp in locating my john farleys birth date, parents and location!!

What a great story about the east schull church, Roger! And happy St. Patricks Day to you all!

Maureen

Hi Ireland xo,
I am in Ireland! :-)

My plan is to visit Schull east on Easter Sunday. I know where St. Mary's Church is but i don't really have any other Regan related locations to visit. Cindy and i have discovered a another descendant...of brother, Daniel who is interested in my visit to Schull East too. If you are able to help me out with addresses where the Regans lived that i can visit or descendants of one of the other siblings i could possibly visit in Schull East that would be awesome.

I will list the family below for your easy reference:

Cornelius b. 1796 &Honora (Leary) Regan b.1803

1824 Mary died?
1826 Denis
1828 Ellen M (USA-Cindy)
1830 Michael
1833 Cornelius
1836 John
1838 Daniel (USA-Tom)
1841 William
1844 Catherine
1846 Mary (USA-Maureen)

Any addresses or irish ancesters you can locate would be so awesime.

Thank you

Maureen