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Hello all,

I am seeking clarification of my Irish ancestry.  John and Catherine Kelly arrived in New Zelaland on the "Carrick Castle" in 1874.  John was listed as being 28 and Catherine as 24.  They travelled with their two daughters Anne 3 and Bridget an infant.

John was the son of John Kelly and Ann Walsh/Welsh of and Catherine was the daughter of John Cavanagh/Kavanagh and Mary Doyle of Co Carlow.

New Zealand John is said to have been born in Clonleigh/Clonalee, Enniscorthy about 1846.  He is said to have been married on 2 August 1860 at Poullpaisty?, Co Wexford.  Catherine was said to have bee 1851 in Care, Co Wexford.

John and Catherine had more children after arriving in New Zealand, however, their children's birth certificates show a range of marriage dates from 1860, 1870 and 1880?

I found a record on Ancestry for an Anne Kelly, born 9 May 1871 at Newtownbarry, Wex, Ireland and one for Bridget Kelly baptised on 10 Jan 1873 in the Parish of Old Ross, Carnagh and Ballyanne, both have parents as John Kelly and Catherine Cavanagh/Kavangh.

I would be ever so grateful if there is someone who can help me to tie down their marriage.

John was a "remittance man".

Many thanks in advance.

Kiwi

Thursday 25th Mar 2021, 02:44AM

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  • Kiwi:

    See third record at this link John and Catherine were married on August 11 1870     https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_re…

    sixth record for Anne   https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_retur…

    last record for Bridget  https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_retur…

    John was a cooper in 1873.

    Roger McDonnell

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Thursday 25th Mar 2021, 01:10PM

  • Many thanks for your efforts Roger, I really appreciate your help.

    Vanessa

    Kiwi

    Saturday 27th Mar 2021, 01:55AM

  • Many thanks for your efforts Roger, I really appreciate your help.

    Vanessa

    Kiwi

    Saturday 27th Mar 2021, 01:55AM

  • Hi this may seem a strange question but for many years generations of my New Zealand Kelly family have been told that John Kelly was the son of John Kelly and Ann Walsh/Welsh of "Kelly's Lorn/Lawn, Wexford.  Could this have been the name of a farm as I can not find it on a map.  John Kelly snr was born circa 1800 and Ann Walsh circa 1802 and she was alway referred to as "Lady Ann Walsh/Welsh" family trees.  They were thought to have married about 1830?

    John their son was sent to New Zealand - rumour has it that he got a servant pregnant?  Would this have been recorded in any Church Records or Petty Sessions?

    These tricky ancestors - I wish Ireland was not so far away.

    Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

    Also as they were RC am I better to search for Johannes or Johannis in Church Records?

    Thanks in advance.

    Vanessa

     

    Kiwi

    Wednesday 14th Apr 2021, 10:18AM

  • Vanessa:

    I've seen Joannes and Johannes is also correct.

    Kelly's Lorn/Lawn might be a local place name.

    The child of the servant was likely baptized but there would be no Petty Sessions record.

    Roger

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Saturday 17th Apr 2021, 02:25PM

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