I am trying to find a town listed on a civil birth record in Kerry which I'm fairly certain is near Derrindaff. But - I can't really decipher the name and it doesn't seem to closely match any of the towns listed in Clanmaurice on wikipedia. Just wondering if it looks like a known town to anyone? I'm reading it as Glawnadeshuge or something like that. Baptism is clearer but still not sure. Thanks! M BradleyIMG_1666.png
And a second question - The same family also has a birth listed in Glenderry, which is 24 miles away from Derrindaff, but all the baptisms for this family are in the same Lixnaw (Leixnaw & Iremore) parish book at the NLI. Would that be reasonable? To go from Glenderry to Lixnaw for baptism?
MBradley
Friday 6th Dec 2024, 02:19PMMessage Board Replies
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MBradley,
Can you provide the surname for this family? It does not show in your attachments.
Regards,
Carolyn
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Glanaderhig is in the Electoral Division of Rathea, in Civil Parish of Kilshenane, in the Barony of Clanmaurice, in the County of Kerry If you need help with your family connections then the names and dates would be helpful as Carolyn suggested.
Eileen
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Oh - sorry. It's a DNA quest so I'm looking at lots of DNA matches and trying to go further back. The family in this case is Dennis Curtin (1836-1890) and Kate Dillane (1832-1900, died Naugatuckc CT, USA). Trying to figure out if son is Patrick b 1864 in the undeciphered town - it seems likely to be Glanaderig as noted by Eileen as this is right next to Derrindaff? But then - Edmund b 1868, Glenderry seems wrong unless there is one closer than on the coast? The next 4 children of this couple - Esther, Bridget, Dennis, and Thomas- were born in Knockaclare and that is where father Dennis Curtin died in 1890. Then - most of the family moved to Naugatuck, CT, USA. Thank you! Margaret
MBradley
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Margaret,
The free site irishgenealogy.ie under the church records tab shows that Edmund was also born in Glanaderig (Glanadeereeg) on 14 Mar 1868. Sponsors were Bartholomew Dillane and Elizabeth Dillane. The same site has the first born son, John Curtain: 1 Jun 1862, "Glannadheuig", Denis Curtain & Catherine Dillane, Sponsors - Thomas Curtin & Honora Curtin. The spelling of the town land is just a mistranslation I believe....it is the same place as the births of Patrick and Edmund. I did see the other Curtin family from Glenderry in the records, but I believe they are a different family. The paid site Roots Ireland has the marriage record for Denis & Catherine as follows:
1 May 1860
Denis Curtayne Catherine Dillane
Gortaclahane residence not recorded
Roman Catholic Roman Catholic
Patrick Dillane & Charles Curtayne - witnesses
The town land's correct name is Gortacloghane, Kilshenane civil parish, Lixnaw RC parish; and if you look on Griffith's Valuation under that town land, you will see MANY Dillanes there. Catherine was probably from there as well.
Regards,
Carolyn
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ok thanks - yes i use irishgenealogy all the time but it's funny how I still miss things even when I do lots of named and wildcard searches - I found the Edmund born 1898 in Glenderry. Thanks. So the Glenderry is definiteky a different family given child with same name. I did have their marriage - maybe from NLI Catholic site. Finally yes - I feel like I'm spending a lot of time in Gortacloghane because the paper records for the Dillane family take me there, but the DNA is taking me to towns like Derrindaff and Knockalougha so there was movement to Gortacloghane that I'm trying to understand. Thanks again!
MBradley
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Margaret,
Are you saying that the Curtin or Dillane DNA evidence is taking you to Derrindaff and Knockalougha which are in the civil parish of Duagh. Griffith's Valuation (1852) shows a Maurice Curtin in the town land of Knockaunbrack, Duagh.
Regards,
Carolyn
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It's the Dillane DNA - my family connection is all to Gortacloghane, but the Dillane DNA connections are going to families in Derrindaff and Knockalougha. I have the families in those towns, but can't yet find the link to my Dillanes - Patrick Dillane and Elizabeth McElligott, having 10 kids in Gortacloghane from 1857 to 1878, many of whom wound up in Chicago. The other Dillane DNA families wind up in Connecticut and New Jersey. It's a lot of Dillanes, and many go back to Dillanes marrying Dillanes. Thanks again.
MBradley