I am researching my 3x great grandfather, Laurence Lawler. According to family lore he was born in Kildare in 1784. He married Bridget Dennison in Ireland circa 1812. Their first son Daniel was born circa 1814. They had five more children. Bridget arrived in America in 1850. She lived with Daniel and his family and died later that year. There is no record of Laurence coming to America. I found British military records for a Laurence Lawler that matches my Laurence. They state that he lived in Athy. He served from 1812 to 1826 when he was medically discharged for “ chronic liver ailment.” I found a baptism for his daughter Elizabeth dated 9 Sep 1828 portarlington, Offaly and Laois. My theory is that Laurence died in Ireland sometime between 1828 and 1850 when Bridget leaves for America. I have not found anything that proves that though. Are there burial or cemetery records anywhere that would support my theory. It seems that Athy RC parish crosses boundaries in Kildare, Laois and Offaly. Any help would be gratefully appreciated. Thank you. Lynda Lawler Linaugh
llinaugh
Thursday 15th Feb 2018, 07:39PMMessage Board Replies
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A bit of luck with the baptism record from www.rootsireland.ie/:
Name:Laurence LawlorDate of Birth:
Date of Baptism:16-Apr-1784Address:AthyParish/District:ATHYGender:MaleCountyCo. Kildare
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:Thomas LawlorMother:Jane UnknownDate of Marriage:15-Feb-1779
Parish / District:ATHY
County:Co. Kildare
Husband
WifeName:ThomasLaler
JaneMandersAddress:
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Roman CatholicOccupation:
Status:Bachelor (Previously unmarried)
Spinster (Previously unmarried)No luck with Laurence's marriage or Daniel's birth/baptism
There are burial records on roots but there are some for Laurence up to 1801 & then none til 1837 on; some Laois but no Kildare. The age isn't given on some so hard to tel!!
Siblings of Laurence:
Name:James LawlerDate of Birth:
Date of Baptism:21-Dec-1760Address:AthyParish/District:ATHYGender:MaleCountyCo. Kildare
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:Thomas LawlerMother:Jane UnknownOccupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1:Luke Smith Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:Sarah FitzgeraldName:Catherine LawlerDate of Birth:
Date of Baptism:26-Sep-1762Address:AthyParish/District:ATHYGender:FemaleCountyCo. Kildare
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:Thomas LawlerMother:Jane UnknownOccupation:
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Informant 1:Patt Higgins Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:Ann HilanName:George LawlerDate of Birth:
Date of Baptism:10-Apr-1769Address:AthyParish/District:ATHYGender:MaleCountyCo. Kildare
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:Thomas LawlerMother:Jane UnknownOccupation:
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Informant 1:John Bennets Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:Elenor WalshName:Henry LalorDate of Birth:
Date of Baptism:01-Mar-1771Address:AthyParish/District:ATHYGender:MaleCountyCo. Kildare
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:Thomas LalorMother:Jane UnknownOccupation:
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Informant 1:Martin Mahar Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:Elizabeth DavisName:Nancy LawlerDate of Birth:
Date of Baptism:13-Mar-1773Address:AthyParish/District:ATHYGender:FemaleCountyCo. Kildare
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:Thomas LawlerMother:Jane UnknownOccupation:
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Informant 1:James Hyland Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:Nelly KellyName:Thomas LalorDate of Birth:
Date of Baptism:28-Apr-1775Address:AthyParish/District:ATHYGender:MaleCountyCo. Kildare
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:Thomas LalorMother:Jane UnknownOccupation:
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Informant 1:Patt Doley Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:Mrs. ConnorName:Thomas LalorDate of Birth:
Date of Baptism:28-Jan-1782Address:AthyParish/District:ATHYGender:MaleCountyCo. Kildare
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:Thomas LalorMother:Jane UnknownOccupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1:Daniel Meagher Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:Mary RocheName:Judith LalorDate of Birth:
Date of Baptism:03-Jul-1786Address:AthyParish/District:ATHYGender:FemaleCountyCo. Kildare
enomination:Roman Catholic
Father:Thomas LalorMother:Jane UnknownOccupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1:Hugh Duen Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:Catherine ConnorName:Jane LalorDate of Birth:
Date of Baptism:26-Jun-1788Address:AthyParish/District:ATHYGender:FemaleCountyCo. Kildare
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:Thomas LalorMother:Jane UnknownOccupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1:William Hyland Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:Mary MaherJane Unknown was a busy woman!
Col
ColCaff, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
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Wow! You’ve been busy too. I wasn’t able to access roots but I have a subscription so I’ll check it out. If this is my Laurence, your info is invaluable. I have seen the baptism record for Laurence listing Thomas and Jane as his parents, but it doesn’t prove beyond a doubt that he is my guy. If I come to Kildare where would you recommend that I look. I’m thinking cemeteries.
llinaugh
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Lynda are you able to infer anything from father and siblings' first names from the irish naming pattern and the names of Laurence's children?
Did he happen to name his first son Thomas and second daughter Jane third son Laurence and fourth James?
Have you considered dna testing which MIGHT connect you to this Laurence?
I'm no Kildare expert so not sure what to suggest; I googled Athy cemeteries and got this lot:
Ardreigh Gravestone Records, Co. Kildare
LawlerMary70NoneCanal Side, Athy16/10/1883
LawlerPeter74LabourerCanal Side, Athy18/11/1886
LawlerMary70NoneCanal Side Athy16/10/1883
LawlerPeter74LabourerCanal Side Athy18/11/1886
Churchtown Gravestone Transcriptions, Co. Kildare
Erected By Michael Lawler Of Churchtown In Memory Of His Father William Lawler Who Depd This Life 20th July 1877 Aged 58 Years. Also His Brother Barbara Lawler Who Departed This Life 5th May 1818 Aged 55 Years With Four Of His Children. The Above Michael Lawler Who Depd This Life 26 Sept 1849 Aged 56 Years.
Both are from this site: http://www.from-ireland.net/ Ididn't go further than Churchtown
Col
ColCaff, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
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Hi Col, the sibling names for Laurence Lawler are not common in our family. Laurence’s children were in order Daniel, John, Patrick, Margaret, Mary, Ann, James, and Elizabeth. They all repeat over generations. I’m not sure this Laurence is our guy. I found another I found another baptism on roots for Laurence Lawler born 1894 in Castledermot. There were no other records that I could fine. His parents were James and Catherine Murphy. We have many James in the family. Do you think you could check this guy out? Another question: would it have been typical for the wife and children to live with her family while he was deployed. His last child, Elizabeth was born in Portarlington, Laois in 1828. She died in infancy. Maybe he died in Laois. I did find one Burial record for a Lawrence Lawler that matches our guy in Wexford. I know Wexford’s not too far from Kildare but there’s not enough info to confirm. I really appreciate all the sleuthing you are doing from me. Thank you. Lynda
llinaugh
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Couldn't find the 1894 Castledermot record on roots I'm afraid Lynda.
When you say check him out what exactly do you require?
Not sure if it was typical for wife & child to live with her family but certainly feasible.
No death/burial records for Laurence in Laois on roots.
Col
ColCaff, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘