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I am researching my 3x great grandfather, Laurence Lawler. According to family lore he was born in Kildare in 1784. He married Bridget Dennison in Ireland circa 1812. Their first son Daniel was born circa 1814. They had five more children. Bridget arrived in America in 1850. She lived with Daniel and his family and died later that year. There is no record of Laurence coming to America. I found British military records for a Laurence Lawler that matches my Laurence. They state that he lived in Athy. He served from 1812 to 1826 when he was medically discharged for “ chronic liver ailment.”  I found a baptism for his daughter Elizabeth dated 9 Sep 1828 portarlington, Offaly and Laois.  My theory is that Laurence died in Ireland sometime between 1828 and 1850 when Bridget leaves for America. I have not found anything that proves that though. Are there burial or cemetery records anywhere that would support my theory. It seems that Athy RC parish crosses boundaries in Kildare, Laois and Offaly. Any help would be gratefully appreciated. Thank you. Lynda Lawler Linaugh

llinaugh

Thursday 15th Feb 2018, 07:39PM

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  • A bit of luck with the baptism record from www.rootsireland.ie/:

    Name:Laurence LawlorDate of Birth:
    Date of Baptism:16-Apr-1784Address:AthyParish/District:ATHYGender:MaleCountyCo. Kildare
    Denomination:Roman Catholic
    Father:Thomas LawlorMother:Jane Unknown

    Date of Marriage:15-Feb-1779
    Parish / District:ATHY
    County:Co. Kildare
    Husband
    WifeName:ThomasLaler
    JaneMandersAddress:
    Denomination:Roman Catholic
    Roman CatholicOccupation:
    Status:Bachelor (Previously unmarried)
    Spinster (Previously unmarried)

    No luck with Laurence's marriage or Daniel's birth/baptism

    There are burial records on roots but there are some for Laurence up to 1801 & then none til 1837 on; some Laois but no Kildare. The age isn't given on some so hard to tel!!

    Siblings of Laurence:

    Name:James LawlerDate of Birth:
    Date of Baptism:21-Dec-1760Address:AthyParish/District:ATHYGender:MaleCountyCo. Kildare
    Denomination:Roman Catholic
    Father:Thomas LawlerMother:Jane UnknownOccupation:
    Sponsor 1 /
    Informant 1:Luke Smith Sponsor 2 /
    Informant 2:Sarah Fitzgerald 

    Name:Catherine LawlerDate of Birth:
    Date of Baptism:26-Sep-1762Address:AthyParish/District:ATHYGender:FemaleCountyCo. Kildare
    Denomination:Roman Catholic
    Father:Thomas LawlerMother:Jane UnknownOccupation:
    Sponsor 1 /
    Informant 1:Patt Higgins Sponsor 2 /
    Informant 2:Ann Hilan

    Name:George LawlerDate of Birth:
    Date of Baptism:10-Apr-1769Address:AthyParish/District:ATHYGender:MaleCountyCo. Kildare
    Denomination:Roman Catholic
    Father:Thomas LawlerMother:Jane UnknownOccupation:
    Sponsor 1 /
    Informant 1:John Bennets Sponsor 2 /
    Informant 2:Elenor Walsh

    Name:Henry LalorDate of Birth:
    Date of Baptism:01-Mar-1771Address:AthyParish/District:ATHYGender:MaleCountyCo. Kildare
    Denomination:Roman Catholic
    Father:Thomas LalorMother:Jane UnknownOccupation:
    Sponsor 1 /
    Informant 1:Martin Mahar Sponsor 2 /
    Informant 2:Elizabeth Davis 

    Name:Nancy LawlerDate of Birth:
    Date of Baptism:13-Mar-1773Address:AthyParish/District:ATHYGender:FemaleCountyCo. Kildare
    Denomination:Roman Catholic
    Father:Thomas LawlerMother:Jane UnknownOccupation:
    Sponsor 1 /
    Informant 1:James Hyland Sponsor 2 /
    Informant 2:Nelly Kelly 

    Name:Thomas LalorDate of Birth:
    Date of Baptism:28-Apr-1775Address:AthyParish/District:ATHYGender:MaleCountyCo. Kildare
    Denomination:Roman Catholic
    Father:Thomas LalorMother:Jane UnknownOccupation:
    Sponsor 1 /
    Informant 1:Patt Doley Sponsor 2 /
    Informant 2:Mrs. Connor 

    Name:Thomas LalorDate of Birth:
    Date of Baptism:28-Jan-1782Address:AthyParish/District:ATHYGender:MaleCountyCo. Kildare
    Denomination:Roman Catholic
    Father:Thomas LalorMother:Jane UnknownOccupation:
    Sponsor 1 /
    Informant 1:Daniel Meagher Sponsor 2 /
    Informant 2:Mary Roche 

    Name:Judith LalorDate of Birth:
    Date of Baptism:03-Jul-1786Address:AthyParish/District:ATHYGender:FemaleCountyCo. Kildare
    enomination:Roman Catholic
    Father:Thomas LalorMother:Jane UnknownOccupation:
    Sponsor 1 /
    Informant 1:Hugh Duen Sponsor 2 /
    Informant 2:Catherine Connor 

    Name:Jane LalorDate of Birth:
    Date of Baptism:26-Jun-1788Address:AthyParish/District:ATHYGender:FemaleCountyCo. Kildare
    Denomination:Roman Catholic
    Father:Thomas LalorMother:Jane UnknownOccupation:
    Sponsor 1 /
    Informant 1:William Hyland Sponsor 2 /
    Informant 2:Mary Maher 

    Jane Unknown was a busy woman!

    Col

    ColCaff, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Friday 16th Feb 2018, 03:46AM
  • Wow!  You’ve been busy too. I wasn’t able to access roots but I have a subscription so I’ll check it out. If this is my Laurence,  your info is invaluable. I have seen the baptism record for Laurence listing Thomas and Jane as his parents, but it doesn’t prove beyond a doubt that he is my guy.  If I come to Kildare where would you recommend that I look. I’m thinking cemeteries. 

    llinaugh

    Friday 16th Feb 2018, 09:10PM
  • Lynda are you able to infer anything from father and siblings' first names from the irish naming pattern and the names of Laurence's children?

    Did he happen to name his first son Thomas and second daughter Jane third son Laurence and fourth James?

    Have you considered dna testing which MIGHT connect you to this Laurence?

    I'm no Kildare expert so not sure what to suggest; I googled Athy cemeteries and got this lot:

    Ardreigh Gravestone Records, Co. Kildare

    LawlerMary70NoneCanal Side, Athy16/10/1883

    LawlerPeter74LabourerCanal Side, Athy18/11/1886

    LawlerMary70NoneCanal Side Athy16/10/1883

    LawlerPeter74LabourerCanal Side Athy18/11/1886

    Churchtown Gravestone Transcriptions, Co. Kildare

    Erected By Michael Lawler Of Churchtown In Memory Of His Father William Lawler Who Depd This Life 20th July 1877 Aged 58 Years. Also His Brother Barbara Lawler Who Departed This Life 5th May 1818 Aged 55 Years With Four Of His Children. The Above Michael Lawler Who Depd This Life 26 Sept 1849 Aged 56 Years.

    Both are from this site: http://www.from-ireland.net/ Ididn't go further than Churchtown

    Col

    ColCaff, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Sunday 18th Feb 2018, 02:10AM
  • Hi Col,  the sibling names for Laurence Lawler are not common in our family. Laurence’s children were in order Daniel, John, Patrick, Margaret, Mary, Ann, James, and Elizabeth. They all repeat over generations. I’m not sure this Laurence is our guy. I found another  I found another baptism on roots for Laurence Lawler born 1894 in Castledermot. There were no other records that I could fine. His parents were James and Catherine Murphy. We have many James in the family. Do you think you could check this guy out?  Another question:  would it have been typical for the wife and children to live with her family while he was deployed. His last child, Elizabeth was born in Portarlington, Laois in 1828. She died in infancy. Maybe he died in Laois. I did find one Burial record for a Lawrence Lawler that matches our guy in Wexford. I know Wexford’s not too far from Kildare but there’s not enough info to confirm. I really appreciate all the sleuthing you are doing from me. Thank you.  Lynda 

    llinaugh

    Sunday 18th Feb 2018, 07:31PM
  • Couldn't find the 1894 Castledermot record on roots I'm afraid Lynda.

    When you say check him out what exactly do you require?

    Not sure if it was typical for wife & child to live with her family but certainly feasible.

    No death/burial records for Laurence in Laois on roots.

    Col

    ColCaff, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Monday 19th Feb 2018, 11:06PM

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