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Leady Arthur, 1821 census

I am still searching for a link to my ancestors from County Cavan. Ellin Leady who I believe could be my 2nd great grandmother was on the 1821 census at house no 19, Derryes Upper, Kilmore, Cavan with her grandfather Terry Masterson, his wife Ann and their sons Hugh and John.

I have recently found that In house No 21, .Derryes Upper, Kilmore was an Arthur Leady, his wife Roze and their four children.

I do not know where to look to see if Ellin is another of Arthur & Rozes children, or if this Roze(Rose) was a daughter of Terry Masterson.

I have been told previously that Leady is not an Irish spelling but on the 1821 census there are many Leady's listed in County Cavan

Any help would be much appreciated.

Carole White


Tuesday 4th August 2020, 03:44PM

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  • Hi Carol,  

    I will see if  I can help you. Leady would also be spelled as Leddy, Liddy, Liddi etc. so keep an open mind on spelling as often it was written down by someone else ie. the census taker, the registrar etc.  You are very fortunate to have your family on 1821 Census as it is a rare document to have survived.  Utilise all the resources on, focus on wills etc. to see if any of them are mentioned  As civil registration did not start until 1864 for catholics, do not overlook it as you would be hoping that some of the younger members of the family lived for another 43 years and that their death was registered, look at who was present when they died again hoping that it was a brother, sister or any other such relative that would help you make the link.  You have not told me what Ellen's married name was.  

    You can also take out a short term subscription on Roots Ireland, it covers the baptismal, marriage and some death records.  Do look and see if the records are available for your parish.  Look for grave listings on line, volunteers are recording and putting them up all the time, women often buried with their family as opposed to their husband, particularly if they died before their husband, perhaps to allow the husband move on and remarry.  You could engage with Cavan Genealogy for a fee they can do research for you at Genealogy Centre Contact Details
    Cavan Genealogy
    1st Floor, Johnston Central Library, Farnham St., Cavan 
    Tel: +353 (0) 49 4361094

    I don't live near the area you mention, so I am not too familiar with it, however I hope I have given you some new lines to search and please accept my apololigies if you have done all of the above.  

    Regards Carmel.




    Bailieborough Cavan

    Thursday 6th August 2020, 03:38PM
  • Hello Carmel

    Thank you for your response and advise as to where I can look for further information, as you say records do not start until after Ellin's dates and have tried Roots but had no luck so far. Ellin married a John Fitzsimmons, again no trace of a marriage record, census records in England show his birth could have been anywhere between 1801 and 1811. Ellin's census records in England show her birth could have been anywhere between 1814 and 1821. They had a child Henry born in Ireland in 1838 after which time they seemed to move to England and settled in the Leeds, Yorkshire area. They went on to have a further eight children and remained in Leeds until their deaths.

    Thanks again



    Friday 7th August 2020, 07:38AM