Roscrea volunteer alerted.
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Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘Saturday 29th May 2021, 12:25PM
Hi Lesley . . .
Welcome to I.R.O. . . and to Roscrea Town . . and to Tipperary ( it still is a " Long Way " )
You query is fairly complex . . and I had to read it a number of times . . to get the main question and character .. who was Ann Honoria Rowlinson . . . when she sailed to Australia . . aboard the " Maria" in 1850.. as part of ..the Earl Grey scheme. . to transport healthy young girls . . from Workhouses in Ireland.
Was she Ann H. Moore . . and . . . did she adopt (pretend) family of Kellys. . . ??
Roscrea (the Town) . . . is situated in N.Tipperary . . bordering two other Counties (within 1 mile)
i.e. Laoise ( a.k.a. Queens Co.) and Offaly ( a.k.a.) Kings Co. ( back then ) . .
So in searching . . ( RootsIreland) .. I included all three Counties . . with little positive results ..
except for 1 .. Anne Moore . . reg.born ..Roscrea 18 Dec.1829 +++
This Anne Moore .. shows Father is " Michael" ... and Mother is . . .Ellen Neil . .
( born 1829 Dec. - could mean she was not Baptised until 1830 )
She certainly fits the "age" profile ..for inclusion in the group of 1850 . . aboard the " Maria"...
I searched for the "Birth" of an Ellen Neil ... from 1799 - to 1819 .. all three Counties . . Nothing
-- ditto -- Michael Moore 1789 to 1809 . . . ditto . . . .. Nothing . .
same negative ...for Elizabeth Neil . . . . .
The Marriage of Michael and Ellen . .. circa. 1829 .... Nothing . . .
The Death of Anna Moore . . . 1835 -1845 . . .Nothing
So . . as you know . . records . . in Ireland . . that far back are scarce . . andd diffacult . .
The first image (below) . . is a piece of work I did myself (EMH) . . approx .10 yrs, ago ..
Where I found this list . . I have forgotten .. (age thingeee !! )
But . . if you study it well . . you will see I have highlighted the girls on the " Maria"
I list ...9 in number . . but nowhere can I see ... anything similar to " Moore " or ( Kelly ) . . .
Why . . . I have NO idea . . but maybe you have an explenation ..??
There is a " Maria Kelly " on the " Pemberton " . . . ( I had a search for her birth in Tipperary -- No luck. )
The " Workhouses" records . . . are scant . . mostly to do with Board of Guardians meetings . . not much about the wretches who were inmates . . . but ... a local Historian .. A Wm.Smyth ... has written a University type of Analysis . . which incl. Roscrea Workhouse.. I searched " Google " but failed to find same . . .
You could usefully trace it . . thru. . . Roscrea Library or Nenagh Library ... directly.
Sorry now . . Best I could do . .
Good Luck with your coninued searching . . .
Cheers . . Eamonn.
Eamonn M. Horan, Volunteer Ireland Reaching Out ☘️Tuesday 1st June 2021, 07:53PM
Afterthought . . .
I searched for the Death of a Michael Moore -- in Roscrea . . . Nothing . .
Eamonn M. Horan, Volunteer Ireland Reaching Out ☘️Tuesday 1st June 2021, 08:04PM
Thank you for all your effort Eamonn, It's much appreciated. All I know from the ship "Maria" mt relative's name was Honorah Moore. When she married in Sydney in 1853 it was as Ann Honora Moore. The lady couldn't read or write. Her husband gave most details for the children's births as he was literate. The only bit I know about the name "Kelly" came from the ship's list, and I believe it meant that a girl surname of Kelly was supposed to be on the "Maria" in 1850, but fell ill so couldn't travel, and Honorah Moore was sent in her place. I thought Honorah must have been a last minute replacement, but I really have no information at all about this. The person in charge of the Workhouse at Roscrea gave that information to the person in charge of getting the girls to the ship I presume, as it's written on the shipping list beside her name. I tried searching for Michael Moore but found nothing either. I am beginning to think that I will never know if this lady Honorah Moore is the same one that I think is my relative, but there are no other Honorah Moore's on any ships to Australia, sadly.
Thanks once again, it's nice to now people do try and help, especially volunteers!
LesleyWednesday 2nd June 2021, 01:07PM
Dick Conroy here. I'm another volunteer with IrelandXO living in Roscrea. I found this record which may be you already have regarding Hanora Moore. The text here is from a website that has the names of Most of these young Earl Grey Women. You may google it under "Barefoot and Pregnant" a work by Trevor McLachlan (not sure of the spelling) where he did a huge amount of work trying to trace all the young women who were transported to Australia under the scheme.
- Surname : Kelly (alias Moore)
- First Name : Honora
- Age on arrival : 18
- Native Place : Tipperary, Roscrea
- Parents : Michael & Catherine (both dead)
- Religion : Roman Catholic
- Ship name : Maria (Sydney 29 Jun 1850)
- Workhouse : Tipperary, Roscrea
- Other : Shipping: nursemaid, cannot read or write, no relatives in colony, annotation: 'Her name is Moore - was sent by the Master of the Workhouse in the place of Kelly who was sick'.
DickFriday 3rd September 2021, 06:10PM