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Greetings!  

I am researching my husband, Hans Cunningham’s family history.  We live in Victoria, BC. Canada. His father Joseph Cunningham was born and raised in Portrush (parents William Irwin Cunningham & Margaret Jane Irwin).  I have found quite a bit of information on several of the Cunningham/Irwin folks including William’s father Daniel Cunningham (1823-1915) Coleraine. 

I am stuck on Daniel’s father Gabriel Cunningham.  According to the 1831 Census, Gabriel, a carpenter, lived at 136 Waterside, Parish of Killowen. In the 1841 Census he lived on Captain St with his wife Jane (married inb 1821) and his sons Daniel, John and Samuel on the document.  I have been working with Barbara from the Coleraine Historical Society who has been so helpful.  I would like to know if there are any records or information available for Gabriel and whether his family are from Killowen or elsewhere..  Appreciate any direction you can provide would be great.  Best Sonja 

 

 

 

Sonja R

Wednesday 22nd Jul 2020, 03:06AM

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  • Sonja,

    I don't see a stautory death record for Gabriel which suggests he died pre 1864 when those records start. There's a death for a Jane Cunningham regd in Coleraine in 1867 aged 72. The age is about right for someone married in 1820 but you would need to pay to view it to know if it's the right lady. I assume you have son Daniel's marriage in 1855 to Olivia Manning? Gabriel's family were Presbyterian according to the 1831 census. If they came from Coleraine, the problem you face is that none of the 3 Presbyterian churches in the town has any records earlier than about 1835, and so you are not going to find his baptism, or his marriage if he married in one of those 3 churches. Finding any earlier record of him will be very difficult due to the lack of records. You could try searching the on-line newpaper sites such as the British Newspaper Archives to see if there's any mention of him.

    The surname, denomination and general location all point to your Cunningham family being of Scottish origins. They are likely to have settled in Ireland in the 1600s but sadly there are no detailed of records of those individual early settlers. Many in that area came from Ayrshire, and that general area of Scotland.

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Wednesday 22nd Jul 2020, 05:16AM
  • Thanks so much Elwyn.  I found the info for the death certificate for Jane and will order it along with a couple of others from GRO.  I will see if I can figure out if this would be the right one.  We do have Daniel and Olivia's marriage certificate.  I will try the newsparers some more- FindMyPast seems to be the most useful- I did find one article on Gabriel when he had some carpenter tools stolen and there was a court record.  We were suposed to be in Ireland this month seraching through records in Dublin and Belfast and local history archives/centres.  Alas... someday.  Barbara was able to find a record of Gabriel Cunningham's membership of Masonic Lodge No. 235 in Coleraine.  I will try to find the entire document.  Gabriel had at least 2 other sons, Samuel and John, with ages for Daniel and Sanuel in 1841.  Are there any books written re: family histories of families in Killowen or might it be Coleriane.  Barbara also mentioned that there was an article about Freemen in an early volume of the Bann Disc and it mentions Gabriel Cunningham in a list of those who had applied to be Freemen and been refused or were waiting for a decision.  As i am ordering some of these journals, I will be able to get a copy of this article as wel.  Every clue helps.  What I am missing is that connection between Gabriel and the next generation as I do not know where he was born.  My husband also believes that his famiy is of Scottish origins.  I am guessing that there are no school records available, particularly online as I assume that Gabriels children would have gone to school?  Thank you again for getting back to me and giving me a few more clues to follow up with. cheers Sonja

    Sonja R

    Thursday 23rd Jul 2020, 05:53AM
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    Sonja,

    School attendance records are not on-line. PRONI hold most of the surviving records but they are in paper format and you have to look them up there in person. The following attendance records exist for schools in the parish of Coleraine:

    Bohill National/PE School Antrim SCH/816

    Coleraine Academical Institution Londonderry SCH/612

    St Malachy's National/PE/PS Londonderry SCH/1194

    St John's National/PE/PS Londonderry SCH/1352

    Coleraine Model/PE/PS Londonderry SCH/422

    The Honourable Irish Society's Coleraine Free Londonderry SCH/529

    Blagh Public Elementary School Londonderry SCH/820

    For Killowen:

    Waterside Girls's National/PE/PS Londonderry SCH/1303

    Waterside Boys's National/PE/PS Londonderry SCH/1364

    I don’t know what years the records cover. You would need to look each set up to find out.

    I think you can reassure your husband that his belief that the family are of Scottish origins is 99% likely to be correct.  Most of the entire population of Coleraine and the surrounding area at that time were of Scottish origin, so it would quite surprising if they didn’t come from Scotland. Possibly worth explaining that at the nearest point it’s only about 10 miles across to Scotland. (The modern ferry from Ballycastle to Campbeltown takes 40 minutes).  It wasn’t the biggest journey they had to make. (See attached photo of the Scottish coast taken from the Giant's Cuseway area).

    However most arrived in the 1600s. By the 1700s they were starting to leave again. Gabriel will have been born in the general Coleraine area I would expect. However you will struggle to find any proof of that as the records you need simply don't exist. The connection back to Scotland will be 100 – 150 years before his birth. 

    Speaking of the district around Killaig and Ballycahan (near Coleraine) in the 1820s, Dr Bruce the local Minister said: “Over a space of 15 to 20 miles from east to west and about the same from north to south, Scottish surnames, a broad Scottish dialect, and an almost universally diffused Presbyterianism indicated the title of the people to call themselves “Scotch.” Episcopalian protestants ie Church of Ireland were few and a Roman Catholic was almost as rare as a black swan.”

    P13 of “A Kennedy Chronicle - Alexander Kennedy of Ballycahan”, by Hugh Alexander Hezlettt.

     

    Speaking of his youth in Aghadowey in the 1830s, page 25 of Autobiography of Thomas Witherow 1824 – 1890, pub 1990 by the Ballynacree Historical Society:

    “Aghadowey had originally been settled by a Scotch migration and I found that my new neighbours spoke as pure Scotch as a man might hear in any part of Ayrshire.”

    Even today the accent in parts of Ulster is essentially Scottish. Quite different from accents you may hear elsewhere in Ireland. For a general description of the background that brought 200,000 Scots to live in that part of Ireland in the 1600s, you might want to read “Eagles Wings - the Journey of the Ulster-Scots & Scots-Irish” by Dr David Hume.

    For a general description of life in Coleraine in the 1700s, you might want to read “Coleraine in Georgian Times” (1977) by Rev Mullin. (There’s a copy in Coleraine Library, local studies section). You should try and get to Coleraine Library to see what they have in that local studies section. You could e-mail the library (when it re-opens) and ask the Local Studies staff for their help.  They may hold copies of family histories etc and other local reference books that might mention Gabriel.

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Thursday 23rd Jul 2020, 04:20PM
  • Hi Elwyn thanks again for all the info.  I so wish we could get to the local history societies, libraries, PRONI but that will need to wait till we can travel again.  So alas all of my research is either online or wait till we get over to Ireland from Canada.  Hans is going to do his Y DNA.   Who knows if this will be helpful.  
    the book you mentioned sounds like a good read.  We will try to locate it.  Still hoping that there will be something that ties Gabriel to the earlier generation or more about his family.  Thanks again  Sonja 

     

     

     

    Sonja R

    Wednesday 29th Jul 2020, 04:02AM

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