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Hello, I’m searching for this man Patrick McGuigan (spelt variously) who was a blacksmith and stayed as far as I know in Ireland possibly Armagh. He had a son, also called Patrick around 1829, this second Patrick moved to UK in the 1840s.  He married a Sussanah Connolly b. 1831, in October 1852, they had a daughter called Frances McGuiggan, my great grandmother, who married a William Snaith  a glassmaker in Gateshead/ Newcastle and subsequently produced a daughter called Sarah Snaith December 9, 1891 this was my grandmother.

Sussana’s father was Edward Connolly, birthplace given as ‘Ireland’ on the census for Newcastle upon Tyne where his occupation is stated as innkeeper and boatman. I’ve identified the public house which was on the riverside in the docks. They all follow through on subsequent census and pole documents newspapers etc.This Edward was another of my great great grandfathers.

I’ve found no hard evidence of their counties or parishes, but from family tales it’s likely to be to the north in Roman Catholic records.

Some names of possible spouses, siblings and earlier offspring would be most helpful.

Has anyone any pointers on what to try next?
many thanks,

Hannah

 

HJS

Wednesday 18th Oct 2023, 02:00PM

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  • You may already be aware of them, but there are records for Patrick and Susannah McGuigan's family in the FamilySearch database [https://www.familysearch.org].  If you search there, you can find Patrick under ID number K2K5-9W9, and can access the records for the others easily through that record, as you will see.

    FamilySearch is operated by the LDS church, and is free to use.  You have to create an account to use the database, but they don’t ask for much personal info, and no missionaries will contact you or anything like that.  The database does not have separate family trees, and is essentially one huge tree of linked records, in which there is a single record for each person, with a unique identification number (although sometimes people unknowingly create duplicate records for the same person, which you can merge when you spot them).

     

    The records show your great-grandmother as "Fanny", and show her with 10 siblings.  They also show info for Susannah's parents and two of her siblings.  They don't appear to answer all of your questions, but note that, in each record, at the right hand side of the screen, you can see the screen names of those who have created or modified the record, and can send them private messages, so you might be able to get more info by contacting them (and perhaps also locate some relatives that way).

     

    kevin45sfl

    Thursday 19th Oct 2023, 06:22PM
  • Thank you Kevin, yes I am familiar with that, but will look again to make sure I haven’t missed anything.

    I’ve also located a Patrick of  the right birth date 1829/30, born to a Patrick married to a Mary McKeon, 12April 1829, sponsors, Charles Rocks and Mary Sherry, residing Granemore, Ballymacnob, Armagh. The couple also come up in earlier and later Griffiths Rolls etc and there are other people of the two surnames who may be cousins etc. Feasible parents for the married couple too. All other Patrick’s born around late 1820/30s do not have a father called Patrick. They are all RC. My great grandfather Patrick (1829) does not feature in any other records I’ve found on all the search engines including the Irish Record Office and NIRl until the 1851 census in UK, then  later with Sussana etc. there’s no direct evidence for the link between Cranemore and the UK census. Cranemore father Patrick is listed as a farmer, no mention of Blacksmith. Unable to find any Irish records that list under professions, nor evidence of apprenticeships etc.

    I tried connecting with the parish, but the present extant church was not built until later, and suggestions as to where else to search parishes drew blanks, except one that said no records had survived for the years I needed.

    now back to the Mormons in the hope something vital passed me bye.

    very kind of you to reply 

    Hannah

    HJS

    Friday 20th Oct 2023, 01:52PM

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