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The whole Martin family was gone from Garranne, Kilmalkedar by the time the Griffiths Valuation was done appx 1851. Catherine Martin my Great Great Grandmother emigrated with her brothers and sisters thru Quebec. She found her husband Morris ... the rest ended up in Marshall, Calhoun, Michigan and were on the census there 1860, 1870, and owned land in the town. The two brothers James and John and sister Eliza Thomas all had children some born in Ireland, some in America. I have not been able to locate any of the Martins by the end of the 1800s.

 

 

 

Family Group Sheet for James Martin

 

 

 

 

 

Husband:

 

James Martin

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Birth:

Abt. 1790 in Garrane, Kilmalkeder, Kerry, Ireland

 

 

Death:

Bef. 1846 in Garrane, Kilmalkeder, Kerry, Ireland

 

 

Marriage:

Abt. 1808 in Ballyferriter, Co Kerry, Ireland

 

 

Father:

John? Martin

 

 

Mother:

?

 

 

 

 

 

Wife:

 

Catherine Moriarty

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Birth:

Abt. 1790 in Kerry, Ireland

 

 

Death:

Bef. 1846 in Garrane, Kilmalkeder, Kerry, Ireland

 

 

Father:

?

 

 

Mother:

?

 

 

 

 

 

Children:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1

Name:

John Martin

 

M

 

Birth:

1812 in Garrane, Kilmalkedar, Kerry, Ireland

 

 

 

 

Death:

Aft. 1880 in Marshall, Calhoun, Michigan, USA; unconfirmed

 

 

Spouse:

Ellen (Helen) FitzGerald

 

 

 

 

 

2

Name:

Catherine Martin

 

F

 

Birth:

08 Nov 1818 in Garrane, Kilmalkedar, Corkaguiny, Kerry, Ireland

 

 

 

 

Death:

10 Dec 1886 in Brattleboro, Windham, Vermont, USA

 

 

Burial:

St Michael's Cemetery, Brattleboro, Vermont

 

 

Marriage:

22 Feb 1846 in Ballyferriter, Co Kerry , Ireland

 

 

Spouse:

Maurice Hugh O'Connor of Clash, Kilquane

 

 

 

 

 

3

Name:

James Martin

 

M

 

Birth:

06 Jul 1824 in Garrane, Kilmalkedar, Kerry, Ireland

 

 

 

 

Death:

Abt. 14 Feb 1864 in Marshall City, Calhoun, Michigan; not confirmed

 

 

 his cheldren were orphaned and brought up by sister Eliza Thomas

 

 

 

 

 

4

Name:

Bridget Martin

 

F

 

Birth:

19 Feb 1814 in Garrane, Kilmalkedar, Kerry, Ireland

 

 

 

 

Death:

27 May 1877 in Marshall, Calhoun, Michigan; Death: 1877 Note: d. age 64. b.

 

 

 

Dingle Co, Kerry Ireland. Burial: Saint Marys Cemetery Marshall Calhoun County

 

 

 

Michigan, USA Memorial# 19314897

 

 

 

 

 

5

Name:

Margaret Martin

 

F

 

Birth:

15 Jun 1821 in Garrane, Kilmalkedar, Kerry, Ireland

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

6

Name:

Daniel Martin did not emigrate with the family, death?

 

M

 

Birth:

03 Jun 1816 in Garrane, Kilmalkedar, Kerry, Ireland

 

 

 

 

Death:

Bef. 1834 in Garrane, Kilmalkedar, Kerry, Ireland

 

 

 

 

 

7

Name:

Elizabeth "Betsey" Martin

 

F

 

Birth:

30 Sep 1809 in Garrane, Kilmalkedar, Kerry, Ireland

 

 

 

 

Marriage:

12 Feb 1839 in Ballyferriter Roman Catholic Parish, Corkaguiny, Ireland

 

 

Spouse:

William Thomas died before they reached Marshall Mi

 

 

 

 

 

Notes:

 

 

 

 

James Martin

 

Religious Census (1834) T M F James Martin 8 3 5 Total in Family, males, females The Tithes were not available for this parish This family was not found on the Griffiths Valuation for Garrane, 1852 Kerry
 

Catherine Martin

As per the Killarney Heritage Center; Catherine, was baptised on the 08/11/1818, the sponsors were Denis FitzGerald and Catherine Martin, Rev. E. Aherne officiated Catherine could not read or write according to the U.S. Vt. census records. "The Search for Missing Friends: Irish Immigrant Advertisements Placed in the Boston Pilot" Volume 1 1831-1850. page 236 edited by Ruth-Ann Harris, Donald B. Jacobs and B. Emer O'Keefe Published by: NEGHS 13 November 1847 OF CATHERINE O'CONNOR, wife of Morris O'Connor, daughter to James Martin of Graan, near Dingle, co Kerry, who emigrated to Quebec last summer, with her brothers, John and James Martin, and is supposed to be in Upper Canada. Any information respecting her will be thankfully received by her husband, who is separated from her by the adversities of fortune. Address, Morris O'Connor, care of James O'Connor, Cabotville, Mass. Catherines date of emigration was after Oct 1846 when son Hugh was born in Ireland. Looks like Maurice expected her to emigrate possibly July 1846 or July 1847 depending on what "last summer" meant via Upper Canada (Quebec, Ontario?) (note: Cabotville is part of Chicopee Mass.) Graan is a phonetic approximation of Garrane, Co Kerry. Garrane/Graan nr Dingle Corkaguiny in Kilmalkedar civil parish.

James Martin

As per the Killarney Heritage Center; James, was baptised ont he 06/07/1824, the sponsors were Daniel Martin and Mary Martin, the Rev. P. Connell officiated James possibly emigrated with brother John and sister Catherin (Martin) O'Connor "The Search for Missing Friends: Irish Immigrant Advertisements Placed in the Boston Pilot" Volume 1 1831-1850. page 236 edited by Ruth-Ann Harris, Donald B. Jacobs and B. Emer O'Keefe Published by: NEGHS 13 November 1847 OF CATHERINE O'CONNOR, wife of Morris O'Connor, daughter to James Martin of Graan, near Dingle, co Kerry, who emigrated to Quebec last summer, with her brothers, John and James Martin, and is supposed to be in Upper Canada. Any information respecting her will be thankfully received by her husband, who is separated from her by the adversities of fortune. Address, Morris O'Connor, care of James O'Connor, Cabotville, Mass. Catherines date of emigration was after Oct 1846 when son Hugh was born in Ireland. Looks like Maurice expected her to emigrate possibly July 1846 or July 1847 depending on what "last summer" meant via Upper Canada (Quebec, Ontario?) (note: Cabotville is part of Chicopee Mass.)

 

Bridget Martin

As per the Killarney Heritage Center; Bridget, was baptised on the 19/02/1814, the sponsors wer John Martin and Bridget Martin, Rev. E Aherne officiated

 

Margaret Martin

As per the Killarney Heritage Center; Margaret, was baptised on the 15/06/1821, the sponsors were John Keliher and Mary Moriarty, the Rev. J. Casey officiated.

 

Daniel Martin (did not emigrate with the family, Death?)

As per the Killarney Heritage Center; Daniel, was baptised on the 03/06/1816, the sponsors were Denis FitzGerald and Margaret FitzGerald, the Rev. Eugene Aherne officiated.

 

Elizabeth "Betsey" Martin Thomas

as per the Killarney Heritage Center; Elizabeth, daughter of James Martin and Catherine Moriarty of Gurrane, was baptised on the 30/09/1809, the sponsors were Thomas Walsh and Catherine Martin, the Rev. E. Aherne officiated.

Waterlilys

Tuesday 23rd Oct 2012, 10:03AM

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  • Hi,

    I've forwarded your request to a volunteer who may be able to assist or advise you.

    All the best.

     

    Tuesday 23rd Oct 2012, 02:28PM
  • Did this Martin family extend out to Grand Rapids too? My ggg grandfather was John Martin of Ireland. Born in Ireland around 1813 and died in Grand Rapids in 1882. His wife was Mary Pendergrass of Marne. Her father was from Kilkenny. John's parent's were John and Bridget Martin. I'm wondering if his father John and James were brothers, both born around the same time, 1790.

    ~Ezra

    Saturday 27th Sep 2014, 09:18AM
  • Hi,

    It's possible John Martin died in Grand Rapids, but lived in Marshall while in the U.S.

    His wife was Helen/Ellen FitzGerald.

    John's parents were James Martin and Catherine Moriarty. John did have a brother James.

    thier father James had a brother John! ...all from west of Dingle.

    mary

     

    Waterlilys

    Saturday 27th Sep 2014, 11:52PM
  • It does look like there was a John and Bridget Martin sponsoring another Bridget Martin's baptism. My guess is that this was James' brother John and his wife:

    Bridget Martin
    As per the Killarney Heritage Center; Bridget, was baptised on the 19/02/1814, the sponsors wer John Martin and Bridget Martin, Rev. E Aherne officiated

    Do you know what they did as professions? Also, do you know if there's been Y-DNA testing done on our Martin line? I would like to confirm if we come from the Irish Type III lineage of the Milesians from northern Spain, and subsequently related to the distant kings of Munster.

    Sunday 28th Sep 2014, 09:31AM
  • Sunday 28th Sep 2014, 10:46AM
  • Hi Ezra,

    I didnt realize I could attach things to this reply!

    attached you'll find the 1883 Battle Creek and Marshall city directory front page and the page showing Martins. Note James Martin on 30 Warren St. - my  Martins had property on Warren st from 1873 and they lived on that steet from when they first moved to Marshall in the 1850s

    John Martins family group sheet

    1873 Marhall Mi Propery Owners map... look at the upper right corne for Warren st - you'll see the lots owned by John Martin and his sister Eliza (Martin) Thomas

    Missing Person Ad from the Boston Pilot

    How are you related to John Martin from Garrane, Kilmelkedar, Kerry?

    mary

    Waterlilys

    Monday 29th Sep 2014, 11:33AM
  • Well according to an 1880 census record, my John Martin resided in Grand Rapids. DOB says 1813, but he ended up passing away two years later in 1882. He and his wife, Mary Pendergrass, had several children: Bridget, Mary,Thomas, Margaret, Ellen,Jane,John, Patrick, and Elisabeth. Mary's parents had emigrated to Talmadge, and we're living there in 1860. She died on 17 September 1917 in Grand Rapids. Their son, Thomas, was my gg grandfather. He married Julia Moran of Algoma.

    What makes me think that I have an obvious connection to your Martin's is that according to churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie, Julia's parents Denis and Mary Roche were married in Caherdaniel, Kerry Co on 15 February 1846, and Denis was born in Ballydavid, Kerry Co, just west of Dingle on 19 February 1822. It seems the families knew each other. I'm wondering if John of Grand Rapids was a nephew to James if James had a brother named John. Both would've been born around 1790. Do you know if he did? And you wouldn't know their parent's names?

    Tuesday 30th Sep 2014, 12:12AM
  • I think I come from James's brother (the 1790 James), John, west of Dingle. Ballydavid is just a few miles west of Dingle.

    ~Ezra

    Tuesday 30th Sep 2014, 12:25AM
  • I have information on James Martin the father of my bunch.... .and his brotherJohn and his family that settled in Pitsburg. I have lots of things to share but I dont have the time to d/l and u/l all the documents... if you give me your email address you cant view/copy all the stuff I have.

    waterlilys @ aol.com

    Waterlilys

    Tuesday 30th Sep 2014, 01:58AM
  • This is exciting! I just found my ggg grandfather's baptismal record! John's father actually was Thomas Martin, probably another brother of James and John. I would appreciate you sending me what you have, my email is EzraJ.Kubas@Yahoo.com.

    Area - KERRY (RC) , Parish/Church/Congregation - BALLYFERRITER

    Baptism of JOHN MARTIN of BALLINLOCHIG on 29 October 1813

    Name JOHN MARTIN
    Date of Birth 29 October 1813
    Address BALLINLOCHIG
    Father THOMAS NR
    Mother MARGARET BOWLER
    Further details in the record
    Father Occupation NR
    Sponsor 1 JOHN MORIARTY
    Sponsor 2 ELIZABETH SHEEHY
    Priest REV EUGENE AHERN
    About the record
    Book Number Page Entry Number Record_Identifier
    N/R 59 N/R KY-RC-BA-48654

    Tuesday 30th Sep 2014, 09:05AM
  • Ezra,

    This is to replace an earlier document that wasnt very readable. Mortality.jpg

    Jun 1860 Federal Mortality Schedule for Allegeny Pa.
    Farmer - Died of Old Age
    Allegehny, Ward2, Pennsylvania

    Reffering to John Martin
    Birth abt 1780 in Ballynabooly, Dingle, Kerry,Ireland

    Wife:
    Julianna FitzGerald
    1795 ?

    Children:
    John Martin
    1813 ?

    Mary Martin
    1817 ?

    Bridget Martin
    1821 ?

    James Martin
    1822 ?

    Catherine Martin
    1824 ?

    Margaret Martin
    1826 ?
    I am sending you an invitation to my tree on ancestry so you can see the documentation I have on the Martins.
    mary

    Waterlilys

    Tuesday 30th Sep 2014, 09:46PM
  • Take a peek at these Ezra.

    Waterlilys

    Tuesday 30th Sep 2014, 10:40PM
  • Ezra

    Thought may be you'd find these intresting.

     

    mary

    Waterlilys

    Tuesday 30th Sep 2014, 11:26PM
  • Wow both John Martin's were born in 1813, the son of Thomas one, and the son of John. Could Thomas be another brother of James? I do know that my John Martin was living in Michigan in 1860 according the the census, and he was born in Ireland. He was living with his wife and kids and her parents and family in 1860. Her father was Patrick Prendergast, a shipbuilder from Kilkenny. His family were one of the founding families of Berlin, an Irish farming community. In 1917 it was changed to Marne after we lost so many casualties at the Battle of the Marne.

    Do know anymore information on your 1813 John as far as place of birth and where he resided in 1860?

    Wednesday 1st Oct 2014, 06:13AM
  • Sliochd nan sionnach Cloinn Mh?rtainn
    Children of the foxes, Clan Martin

    The Tribe of Mairtine was definitely Proto-Celtic in origin, and among the ancient tribes wintering in Spain during the last Ice Age. They were part of the early Pictish, Celtic and Gaelic movements into the western Europe and the British Isles.

    The Tribe of Mairtine landed in Ireland roughly 2000 years ago near the Dingle Peninsula and established themselves in the areas of Kerry, Cork, and later in Tipperary. The Book of Munster associates the Mairtine with the Tribes of the Erainn, Benntraige, Ulaidhe, and the E?ghanacht. Associated is a key word, as the deep clade DNA signatures of all the tribes are slightly different.

    The Mairtine began a 1000 year migrational track across Ireland to the Northeast and eventually occupied what we now know as Northern Ireland (Ulster) and Western Scotland (Argyll) and were an integral part of the Dal Riada Kingdom.

    The Dal Riadic Clan is named as MacMairtin, and eventually anglicized to MacMartin and finally Martin. Later migrations spread up the Great Glen and Clan MacMartin established themselves primarily around Loch Lochy to Stirling, Scotland, with others scattered throughout Scotland.

    Wednesday 1st Oct 2014, 08:14AM
  • Has anyone ever done a Y-DNA test on our Martin's to see which subclade they originate? Also a distant cousin recently emailed me from Dublin and said that there's belief that the Martin's were once O'Connor's. The O'Connor's are supposed to descend from a kingly or chieftain line.

    Sunday 10th Apr 2016, 12:27AM
  • Attached Files

    Hi Ezra,

    Would a YDNA test work for this situation? See attached pedigree for my male 2nd cousin.

    Mary aka waterlilys@aol.com

     

    Waterlilys

    Sunday 10th Apr 2016, 03:10PM
  • Well it would certainly pinpoint whether we are M222 and descend from the kings of Connaught and Niall of the Nine Hostages, or if we come from several of the subclades from Munster and their kingly lines.

    Niall of the Nine Hostages https://youtu.be/XMUoCOFQdGE

    DNA vs the Irish annals https://youtu.be/JvYagRMu7b0

    Monday 11th Apr 2016, 01:22PM
  • Ezra - sorry for my being dense - If I talked my second cousin into doing a Y- DNA test would it answer your question about which subclade the Martin's originate?

    mary

    Waterlilys

    Tuesday 12th Apr 2016, 01:22PM

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