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I am looking for any information about a marriage of Matthew Hannon/Hannan to Eliza Maguire around 1830.

Margaret Hannon gave these names as her parents when she wed in Melbourne in 1853, aged about 18.  She said she was from Co Wicklow but that does not ensure that her parents wed there or both came from there. I have found a Matthew Hannon farming in Killahurler area in Griffiths Valuations but do not know if he is her father.

I have no idea what became of Matthew but a newspaper enquiry in 1902 for missing friends said Eliza remarried a man named White/Whyte and there were 2 boys from that marriage.  Hence the assumption is that Matthew died probably before 1850.  That is when their daughter Margaret was in the Shillelagh workhouse before emigrating to Australia under the Earl Grey scheme, aged 15.

On the birth registration of one of her children, Margaret was said to been from Baltinglass which is some distance from both Killahurler and Shillalagh but all in Co Wicklow. Apart from the consistent naming of Co Wicklow as her birth county, those other 2 places are the only documented locations she provided.  Margaret's age on her children's birth registrations and marriage certificate varies a fair bit but she was probably born in about 1835.

Any help would be greatly appreciated,

Ric

Ric46

Wednesday 19th Aug 2020, 11:35AM

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  • Starting with the the most recent known event in Ireland, the birth of Margaret c1835, and assuming she was Catholic (*) - a search for a possible baptism for her or any siblings in counties Wicklow, Kildare & Carlow. There are just three Hannon or similar Catholic baptisms showing in those counties where the father in Matthew or similar - none have mother as Eliza or similar, their maiden surnames are Curran & Ryan. . The only other near match is a baptism in August 1826 Margaret Hanna in Rathdrum RC parish (NLI microfilms) to parents Tim Hanna and Eliza McGurk. 

    Switching to the marriage and searching Catholic records for any Matthew Hanna/Hannon/Hannen (or similar) marriage 1830 +- 20 years show nothing in the available Catholic marriage records for all of Ireland - none married to an Eliza/Elizabeth/Liz/Bessie etc and no bride name Maguire or similar that I could find. I also checked a transcripts database (RootsIreland) which includes marriage records for Catholic, some Church of Ireland and other denominations but no success there either...

    The town of Baltinglass is right on the border with  county Kildare and also close to county Carlow. The Civil parish of Killahurler would have been part of the Catholic parish of Arklow, which also covered parts of County Wexford.

    Hannon strikes me as more a western surname - it was most common in parts of Connaught, Roscommon Sligo, Mayo & Galway, and south west Munster - Cork & Limerick, Maguire was very focused on south west Ulster - Tyrone, Fermanagh & Cavan.

    Many of the parishes in County Wicklow have quite good records back to the early 1800s, but there are some that only start later..
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    Not looking very promising unfortunately - if you locate any further clues that might help update here.. In the meantime I’ll try a couple of additional search variations

    * Most Catholic baptisms include mother’s maiden surname

    Shane Wilson, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Thursday 20th Aug 2020, 07:01PM
  • Shane,  Thank you for making such a great attempt to help.  There are many small inconsistencies in my sources, these being mainly in her children’s birth certificates.  Margaret dies in 1876 in NSW, aged 41 according to her daughters as informants to her death registration, and around that time her husband Thomas is murdered in Fiji.  So for him there seems to be no death certificate as it was a lawless place at that time and his death is only strong family heresay.  Margaret’s daughters say her father was Michael Hanning and mother Elizabeth Maguire.

      Thus her father’s name is a poor match for what is on her wedding certificate but probably close enough for searches like yours to pick up his marriage because the mother’s name matches.  We have to remember that the daughters providing the information, aged in their early 20s, had never met either maternal grandparent and they lived on the other side of the 1870s world.  The information about Eliza/Elizabeth’s remarriage comes from Margaret’s youngest son, Thomas aged 34, who put an advertisement in the Irish Independent (Mon 18 Nov 1901, p.1) while he was working in England in the early 1900s.  So I believe that he would have been reasonably knowledgeable about what he was suggesting about his parent’s Irish families.

      The actual article said

    “FITZPATRICK--Wanted to trace the Relatives of Thomas Fitzpatrick, who was born in County Down, about 1829; had three brothers (James, Michael and William), but no sisters; went to Australia prior to 1853. Information thankfully received by T. Fitzpatrick, 65 Myddleton square, Islington, London.

    HANNON—Wanted to trace the Relatives of Margaret Hannon, born in County Wicklow 1832. left for Australia prior to 1853; daughter of Mathew and Eliza Hannon. The former died, and the latter married a man named White, by whom there were two boys (twins). In-formation thankfully received by T. Fitzpatrick, 65 Myddleton square, lslington. London .”

    The core search message was repeated in the Perth (Aust) Sunday Times 5 Oct 1902, p.2.

    Where Margaret’s parents married is unknown and their religion is unknown.  Her husband comes from a Catholic family as he was baptised in a catholic church in Clonallon near Newry.  We have that information with correct names from the church register.  It would appear that none of the children knew exactly when their parents came out to Australia, only that it was before they married in Melbourne in 1853.  We have discovered Margaret’s voyage information in recent times.  We do not know if she had any siblings from her parent’s union.  Maybe they never married.  Maybe he was killed in one of the civil uprisings that occurred in the Wicklow area and never received a formal burial.

    Unfortunately we also have no more information about Thomas’s family than what is in the marriage certificate, what was written in the paper, and a guess about his father’s farm based on Griffiths valuations.  Both fathers were recorded on the marriage certificate as farmers but the daughters said their mother’s father was a shoemaker – just to muddy the waters more.

    So I’ll continue to search and would, of course, welcome anything else that you might turn up.  Again, your efforts are much appreciated,

    Ric

    Ric46

    Friday 21st Aug 2020, 01:40PM

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