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I am keen to find family members of two of my great, great grandmothers, Sarah McVeigh and Ann Handlon from Armagh.

Sarah McVeigh arrived in Australia in 1854 as a domestic servant, and from the birth records of her latter children, we estimate that her birth year was about 1830.  Her shipping records state that her father was named Patrick McVeigh and her mother was Mary Ann Hatherton.  We believe that Patrick died in 1883 and Mary Ann died in 1885 (Swords), but we have no idea if Sarah had siblings or not.

  Ann Han(d)lon arrived in Australia in 1849, aged 25 and is listed on shipping as a housemaid and laundress.  These records state that her father's name was James Han(d)lon and her mother's name was Mary (nee Dawson); 'living in North Killally'.  Travelling with her is a Mary Ann Hanlon, aged 25 from Killally Armagh, daughter of Patrick Hanlon and Agness (both dead).  We don't know of the connection with these two girls, nor do we know anything about Mary Ann once in Australia.

 My Ann Han(d)lon had come to Australia to find her mother's brother, William Dawson who owned an Inn.  Our family folk-lore story tells of Ann, having arrived in Melbourne and finding no-one there to meet her, set off on foot to walk many miles only at night to find her Uncle, as she was too scared to walk during the day through the thick bushland where she could be attacked. She eventually met her husband, William Peters, and the two married and went on to have 12 children. 

We would love to find anyone at all connected to these two brave and adventurous women, as there must have been someone who waved goodbye to these two girls knowing that they would never return to their native land.

Rap

Rap

Tuesday 20th Nov 2018, 03:20AM

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  • Rap,

    I can’t see a marriage for Patrick McVeigh and Mary Ann in the on-line RC parish records, nor can I see a record for Sarah’s baptism. I also looked for Patrick’s death c  1883 and Mary’s in 1885 in the Swords area (Balrothery registration district). Could not find either.

    Likewise no success with the Hanlon families. There isn’t any place in Armagh named Killaly (or North Killaly). In fact there isn’t a Killaly anywhere in Ireland. Though obviously it might be mis-spelled. I have had a look at all the possibles in Armagh but nothing leaps out at me.

    Not sure where you go from there. Possibly DNA testing may be a way of matching with others who have additional information about where the family originate. Family Tree DNA reportedly has more people with Ulster roots than any other company. That obviously increases the chances of finding a match. You might want to try them or, if you have already tested, you can transfer your results to them for no fee.

    The North of Ireland Family History Society is running an Ulster DNA project and can offer FTDNA testing kits at a reduced price.  http://www.nifhs.org (Go to DNA project on the website).

     

     

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Tuesday 20th Nov 2018, 09:16PM
  • Hi,
    About 7-8 years ago I searched for this family, for a lady in Australia.
    The place where the Hanlon family were from is Kittaffry (townland) and Shrule is the Parish.  I think the squiggle from the records looked like Killally from what I remembered..
    The McVeigh family were from the Creggan Parish and Patt McVeigh is listed in several town lands.

    http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?…

    Sarah married James Christopher Egan in Melbourne in 1854.  James was from Dublin.
    He had a court case was in 1843 and then in 1847, it was then he ws sent to Australia. Seems he was with a Cornelius Egan.
    There were 3 possible James Egan (the father) 110 St Stephens' Green, 125 Francis Street and 35 West New Row. 
    The lady came over and stayed with us and we went to Ireland. She also had McGowan's in her family and they were from Longford Town, County Longford.
    As it happened we attended the Johnny Keenan Banjo Festival for 9 years. I went to the Library and seached the books they had and found James and his father, James about 1841. They lived in Bog Lane, which is still there and the original walls, the houses are all gone. She was quite moved when we walked down Bog Lane.
    I hope this has helped
    Margot

    Margot

    Wednesday 21st Nov 2018, 01:36PM
  • Many thanks for your replies, folks.  Hi Margot...It's Rosie who has posted!  Best wishes to you!.

    Thanks Elwyn for trying to chase up those bdm's again.  I had no luck as well finding these records, and the Swords bap came from someone who had access to the information, but I could not verify it one way or the other.  The place of birth listed as the birthplace on Australian shipping records is quite clearly spelt 'Killaly', but as was the case often, strong accent responses to 'place of birth?' were often recorded phonetically and as such, way off the mark from the reality.  I thought that perhaps it may have been 'killalea' but that is not in Armagh, or pehaps 'Killeavy' ??

      I have done an Ancestry dna test, but I have many, many Irish lines from both of my parents, and it has been difficult to identify which of the matches can be attributed to the Handlon and McVeigh connections.

    Many thanks for the thread to the North of Ireland Family History Society.  I'll see what I can find!

    Thanks to you both!  Rap

    Rap

    Sunday 25th Nov 2018, 01:01AM

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