meade of belleview house

Hi William,

See search results below at Landed Estates site on the University of Ireland at Galway pages.  Can you review and advise which of these is the one of your interest and I will try to locate the parish.

Best regards,

James McNamara

Feakle Clare Administrator

feakle@irelandxo.com

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• (House) Belleview Cottage - Robert Whiteside was leasing the property at Lisnalurg, known as Belleview Cottage from the Wynne estate, at the time of Griffith's Valuation. It was valued at ?8. The site is now occupied by a house known as Ardeevin
• (House) Belleview (Bandon) - William Seymour was leasing this property from the Earl of Shannon's estate at the time of Griffith's Valuation, when it was valued at ?14. A house still exists at this site.
• (House) Belleview/Bellevue - A house located on the Vandeleur estate close to the town of Kilrush, the residence of Captain Jewell in 1814 and of Nicholas S. O'Gorman at the time of Griffith's Valuation, when it was valued at ?11. Weir writes that this was a late 18th century house, still extant.
• (Estate) O'Gorman (Belleview) - This branch of the O'Gorman family are descended from from James O'Gorman of Ennis, county Clare and his wife Susanna Mahon of Limerick who married in 1760. Their son Nicholas Purcell O'Gorman was a barrister and married Frances Anne Smith of Castlepark, county Limerick. Their two sons Nicholas Smith O'Gorman of Belleview and Major Purcell O'Gorman of Springfield, county Waterford owned 863 acres and 604 acres respectivley in county Clare in the 1870s. Major P. O'Gorman also owned 104 acres in county Kilkenny and 261 acres in county Waterford. By 1910 Nicholas S. O'Gorman was residing in Surrey.
• (Estate) Collum - The Collum estate was centred on Belleview, near Enniskillen. However, John Collum, as representative of the late Archibold, of Enniskillen is recorded as owning 283 acres in Leitrim in the 1870s. In addition he is recorded as owning, with others, over 1600 acres in county Sligo. He also owned land in Cavan and Donegal as well as Fermanagh. Elizabeth Collum, together with Robert Orme, was a principal lessor in some parishes in Tireragh at the time of Griffith's Valuation, notably Skreen. Mrs. Elizabeth Collum, wife of John Collum, and Robert Orme, offered for sale property in Athlone and Westmeath, in the Encumbered Estates Court in February 1857. This had formerly been part of the estate of Ffolliott Thornton Mostyn and of Bernard Kelly.
• (Estate) Dennehy - Burke's Landed Gentry of Ireland (1904) records Thomas Dennehy of Belleview, Fermoy, county Cork and his two sons, John of Brook Lodge and Richard of Prospect House, Innishannon, county Cork. The eldest son John married Maria, daughter of Patrick Moriarty of Castledrum and Glencar, county Kerry and their eldest son was Major General Sir Thomas Dennehy who had a distinguished military career in India. John Denehy held land in the parish of Clondulane, barony of Condons and Clangibbon and Thomas Dennehy held land in the parish of Ardnageehy, barony of Barrymore, county Cork, in the mid 19th century. In February 1867 the estate of Thomas Dennehy, Hugh Morrow and Daniel Dennehy, amounting to over 1,500 acres in the barony of Barrymore and at Belview in the barony of Condons and Clangibbon, was advertised for sale. Various members of the Dennehy family owned land in county Cork in the 1870s. The largest acreage 277 acres was held by Maria Dennehy of Brook Lodge, Fermoy.

james 

this is the first reference i have for belleview

1783 march 10th limerick chronicle advert to be let the house and gardens of belleview on the canal near limerick inhabited by john ....... proposal to mrs nash or richard harold esq at pennywell near limerick

1785 september 18th wedding john meade thomas of limerick and belleview castleconnell married mary anne roche nee Harold daughter of john roche 

as i come across other references i will post them 

james 

petty fitzmaurice marquess of lansdowne 

           limerick county

           saint nicholas parish

           farranshone more townland

osi ref r560 571 discovery map 65 os sheet 5

house seems to be the place in limerick but it says built early 1820 is it possible it was built earlier

I am tracing my Irish Ancestry (Limerick and Dublin). My Great Grandmother's marriage was announced on the front page of The Sydney Morning Herald, on 3 June 1883 as being the Granddaughter of a Henry James Fitzmaurice and Great Granddaughter of James Fitzmaurice and Great Grand niece of Lord Henry Petty Fitzmaurice, Marquis of Landsdown and Early of Kerry.  She is alsodescribedas being the Great Granddaughter of the late John Meade Thomas Esq., Limerick and Belleview, Castleconnell and Grandniece of the late Major Roche Meade and Richard Meade of Belleview, Castle Connell.  John Meade Thomas married Mary Anne Roche (her mother was a Catherine Harold) and according to the above string of comments, they were married in Belleview House on 18 September 1785. Their marriage is also registered in St Mary's Church, Athunklard Street, Limerick. They are my GGGG Grandparents.

Can you imagine what it is like to have this marriage notice with reference to my Great Grandmother being the Great Grandniece of Lord Henry Petty Fitzmaurice?  How to prove it?

There seems to be a connection between the Petty-Fitzmaurices and Belleview House and Belleview House, Castleconnell being the marriage place of my GGGG Grandparents John and Mary Anne Meade. By the way, John Meade Thomas is, as you would no doubt know, actually John Meade, son of Thomas Meade. His mother was an Eleanor Rochfort. The Meades were linen merchants.

So I am trying everything and everyone, and short of having a DNA test done to prove any link to the Petty-Fitzmaurices, I have drawn a blank - unless of course there are skeletons in the closet. But why announce this to all and sundry on the front page of The Sydney Morning Herald.

I have an Aunt who is 98 years old and still has full long term recall. Her Grandmother (the one whose marriage was announced in the paper) talked about the Fitzmaurices and her daughters were all brought up to believe they were from very good stock. My Great Grandmother's name was Selina Mary Violet.  Her mother was Mary Agnes but she was very evasive about her maiden name, once using 'Williamson' on a daughter's birth certificate and on others 'Fitzmaurice'. Her mother was Catherine Meade, daughter of John Meade Thomas and Mary Anne (Roche) Meade.  I have her baptism registration at the same Church her parents' marriage is registered.  Catherine was born in 1794.  Catherine Meade had a brother who was Major Thomas Roche Meade.  In his Estate Administration document dated 1849 (he died suddenly and was Deputy Assistant Adjutant-General at Horse Guards in London at the time) his estate goes to his only next of kin Mrs Kate Fitzmaurice, widow of Catherine Street, Limerick, and Mary Anne Burgess, Widow of Booterstown, Dublin. 

Is there any other avenue I could find out linkages between the Belleview House that the John and Mary Anne were married and the Belleview House referred to above with Petty-Fitzmaurice against it.

Thanks

Helen