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I am the great, great grandaughter of Michael Kelley and Kate Burns, and I am hoping to find the county in Ireland where they are from.  The only record I have is of their daughter (my great grandmother) Kate Kelley Archibald.  It is from my great grandmother's marriage record that I got the names of her parents.

I have no date of birth for Michael but his daughter Kate was born around 1854 somewhere in Ireland, so I assume Michael's dob is between 1824 and 1834 or so.  I am having difficulty is locating marriage records for Michael and Catherine Burns, but I did locate one for Michael Kelly and Catherine Beirne in the Mohill Roman Catholic church in County Leitrim on 9 Jan 1850 with Find My Past.   Using this as a basis, I tried to locate any children, especially one named Catherine or Kate but could not. . 

So in short, I would like to locate the county of origin for Michael Kelley. I would also like to know if Beirn is a variation of the names Burns.

Any assistance is appreciated.

 

Terri D.

Terri D

Tuesday 12th Apr 2022, 02:44PM

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  • Terri:

    On the subscription site Roots Ireland there is a May 15 1854 baptismal record for a Catherine Kelly with father Michael Kelly and mother Catherine Beirne. The RC parish was Gortletteragh in Co. Leitrim. Gortletteragh is in southern Co. Leitrim near the border with Co. Longford. I think this baptismal record corresponds to the marriage you found on Find MyPast. There was also a sister Mary Anne baptized December 1 1852.

    Burns would be a variant for Beirne.

    Roger McDonnell

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Tuesday 12th Apr 2022, 03:20PM
  • Hi Roger,

     

    Thank you so much for confirming my suspicion about the Burns variant of Beirne and for taking the time to look up this information.  I am reasonably sure that this is the family I'm looking for, especially if people responsible for documenting names (such as on a marriage certificate or census) did so phonetically.  In Massachusetts, the Irish pronunciation of Beirne may very sound like Burns.

     

    Best

     

    Terri D.

    Terri D

    Wednesday 13th Apr 2022, 12:26PM
  • Hi Roger,

     

    Thank you so much for confirming my suspicion about the Burns variant of Beirne and for taking the time to look up this information.  I am reasonably sure that this is the family I'm looking for, especially if people responsible for documenting names (such as on a marriage certificate or census) did so phonetically.  In Massachusetts, the Irish pronunciation of Beirne may very sound like Burns.

     

    Best

     

    Terri D.

    Terri D

    Wednesday 13th Apr 2022, 12:26PM
  • Hello Teri D,

    There was a Michael Kelly married Catherine Beirne on the 9th January 1850 Mohill, County Leitrim.  

    All The Best

    Peter C

    Cally/Fitz

    Friday 15th Apr 2022, 09:24AM
  • Thank you!  Was it customary for a bride and groom to come from the sane place?  I'm trying to locate records for Michael Kelly (or Kelley) and it would give me a starting place.  The problem with this is that his name is so common, I woud have no way of being reasonably sure I have the right Michael Kelly.

     

    Best

     

    Terri

    Terri D

    Saturday 7th May 2022, 11:04PM
  • Hello Terri - I came across your posts while researching (always researching) my great-grandmother's roots.  I have been researching for years now and as you must know there are so many people with the same names its really impossible although I don't give up hope.

    I see that you are looking for Michael Kelly's.  I also am searching for Sarah Kelly with a father Michael.  My Sarah Kelly was born 1852/3 in Queens County.  I have a copy of the marriage certificate, they were married in Manchester, England and it shows Michael as father, occupation Bricklayer.  I too have searched all of Ancestry and I see you have come up with some of the same people as me - Catherine Beirne or Burns and this is the closest I have got.  I even had a researcher on Ancestry who has used my Sarah Kelly history onwards which I don't think is the right person although it might indicate that the family were living in Liverpool at that time.

    I thought I had a connection to a family called Foey.  William and Dinah were witnesses at the wedding of Sarah Kelly to Williiam Mather in Manchester and William and Sarah witnesses at the wedding of William and Dinah Wardle.  I found that Dinah's mother was called Catherine Kelly although it didn't get me any further.  Maybe nothing in it, maybe they were just friends but there are a lot of coincidences.   https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/2967/images/40366_29…

    I have all but given up with the researching as I've been at it for years.  I wish I had asked my own grandmother questions while she was still alive but I was young and not interested in history.  My  grandmother was called Sarah Jane, maybe after her mother.

    I wish you luck with your search.  If I find anything relevant in future I will come back to you.

    Best Wishes

    Marie

     

    daisynook

    Monday 22nd Aug 2022, 11:37AM

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