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Michael Wade and Margaret Walsh

I'm searching to link our first ancestor that came from Ireland abut 1832-34 with some Wade's that have stay in Ireland or moved somewhere on the globe. Michael Wade was married to Margaret Walsh and they had 6 childrens.

Hannah Wade born (depending of different sources) July 1st 1831 in Ireland or between 1832 and 1836 in Canada.
William Wade born in 1837 In Canada (or could be during the trip on the boat according to some family story). Baptized May 8, 1837 at Saint-Michel Church, Inkerman, New Brunswick, Canada.
Mary Ann Wade born March 17, 1839 in Pokemouche, New Brunswick, Canada.
Margaret Wade born March 17, 1842 in Pokemouche, New Brunswick, Canada. Baptized August 17, 1842 at Saint-Michel Church, Inkerman, New Brunswick, Canada.
Francis James Wade born June 1, 1844 and died June 4 1878.
Michael Wade Jr born about October 1846. Baptized June 26, 1847 at Immaculée-Conception Church, Pokemouche, New Brunswick, Canada.
John Wade born between 1848 and 1852, Pokemouche, New Brunswick, Canada.

We don't know the names of their parents or where they came from Ireland. But everything tell us that they came on a lumbership that was crossing the ocean between the Miramichi River in New Brunswick and somewhere along the coast of Ireland. I've search a lot of places and The Rothe House in Kilkenny found a marriage Between a Micheal Wade and a Margaret Walsh in Templeorum on April 10, 1834. But there is no proof that they are ours ancesters. And according to the birth dates of the 2 first child, it doesn't match. 

Some people in my family did make the DNA test. And it says that somewhere there could be a link by : Micheal Wade & Bridget Horam (Close to Michael Wade) and Lawrence Walsh and Judith Frisbee (close to Margaret Walsh).

An other thing is, That Margaret seems to have a sister that came here in New Brunswick. Bridget Walsh. She was born about 1817 in Kilkenny County. And she married John Hayden. They settled near by Micheal Wade and Margaret Walsh in Pokemouche, New Brunswick, Canada.

So thats all the info and the clues I have. Is there any Wade's that can help me to find the missing links.

Thanks to all of you.

 

 

 

Dboy1834

Tuesday 8th October 2019, 09:20PM

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  • Hi Db0y,

    www.rootsireland.ie/ has 69 Bridget Walsh Tipperary birth/baptism records 1817 + - 5 years.

    If you give me Margaret Walsh's approximate birth year I will search for parents in common.

    I did find this one but then I realised I needed to know Margaret's birth year :

    Name:Bridget WalshDate of Birth:
    Date of Baptism:01-Sep-1818Address:TikirlivanParish/District:GRAIGNAMANAGHGender:FemaleCountyCo. Kilkenny
    Denomination:Roman Catholic
    Father:Edward WalshMother:Catherine RigbyOccupation:
    Sponsor 1 /
    Informant 1:John WalshSponsor 2 /
    Informant 2:Mary Sheehy

    Name:Margaret WalshDate of Birth:
    Date of Baptism:01-Sep-1820Address:TikirlivanParish/District:GRAIGNAMANAGHGender:FemaleCountyCo. Kilkenny
    Denomination:Roman Catholic
    Father:Edmund WalshMother:Catherine RigbyOccupation:
    Sponsor 1 /
    Informant 1:Thomas MurphySponsor 2 /
    Informant 2:Bridget Murphy

    Col

    ColCaff

    Friday 11th October 2019, 10:37PM
  • Hi Col,

    First of all, i would ike to thank you for answering and helping me.

    Honestly, we have no clue aboutThe birth date of Margaret Walsh, neither her husband Micheal Wade.
    A fire in the church destroyed all the registered. But shed died in between 1851 and 1860 and Michael Wade between 1858 and 1860.

    But if her sister Bridget Walsh was born in 1817. She might be born arround that date.

    Im sorry to have  so little informations, and thats why i really help... and luck to finally find the link in Ireland.

    Once again thank you very much for your help and time for the research. I cross my finger!

     

    Dboy1834

    Saturday 12th October 2019, 01:14AM
  • OK that makes the task a long process & there are no guarantees that they were close in age. There are 69 Kilkenny birth/baptisms for Margaret 1817 + / - 5 years & the same number for Bridget.

    So, I have one more idea to try before undertaking the above: can you give me the names of Margaret's children in birth order from oldest to youngest; 

    I need the same for Bridget's children. I'll then apply the Irish naming pattern to look for possible parents (first daughter named after mother's mother; second son named after mother's father. It's a longshot but worth a try

    Col

    ColCaff

    Sunday 13th October 2019, 04:07AM
  • HI Col,

     

    Here the childrend of Michael Wade and Margaret Walsh in order

    Hannah Wade born (depending of different sources) July 1st 1831 in Ireland or between 1832 and 1836 in Canada.
    William Wade born in 1837 In Canada (or could be during the trip on the boat according to some family story). Baptized May 8, 1837 at Saint-Michel Church, Inkerman, New Brunswick, Canada.
    Mary Ann Wade born March 17, 1839 in Pokemouche, New Brunswick, Canada.
    Margaret Wade born March 17, 1842 in Pokemouche, New Brunswick, Canada. Baptized August 17, 1842 at Saint-Michel Church, Inkerman, New Brunswick, Canada.
    Francis James Wade born June 1, 1844 and died June 4 1878.
    Michael Wade Jr born about October 1846. Baptized June 26, 1847 at Immaculée-Conception Church, Pokemouche, New Brunswick, Canada.
    John Wade born between 1848 and 1852, Pokemouche, New Brunswick, Canada.

    and John Hayden and Bridget Walsh (married before 1842)

    Peter Hayden about 1842 in Pokemouche, New Brunswick, Canada.
    Mary Jane Hayden August 17, 1844 in Pokemouche, New Brunswick, Canada.
    William Michael Hayden May 16, 1846 in Pokemouche, New Brunswick, Canada.
    James Hayden about 1848 in Pokemouche, New Brunswick, Canada.
    John Hayden about 1851 in Pokemouche, New Brunswick, Canada.
    William S. Hayden about 1853 or 1856 in Pokemouche, New Brunswick, Canada.
    Margaret Ann Hayden August 15, 1857 in Pokemouche, New Brunswick, Canada.

    Good luck and once again thank you so much

    Dboy1834

    Monday 14th October 2019, 09:56PM
  • Looks like they didn't follow the pattern exactly but they both have a William, a John, a Margaret & a Mary (Ann / Jane) so I'll have a look for those parent names

    Sorry Dboy, I tried John & Mary, John & Margaret William & Mary, William & Margaret for both Margaret & Bridget 1817 + - 10 years in Kilkenny but couldn't find both Bridget & Margaret as daughters for any.

    There are no Walshes or Wades in Kilkenny in the 1821 Irish Census which is the earliest available

    The Tithe Applotments have 1152 Walshes & 8 Wades in Kilkenny but they start from 1823 

    As a last resort I had a look on ancestry and found a tree by emilyt which had Margaret born abt 1810 & died Inkerman, Gloucester New Brunswick

    Married Michael Wade April 1834 in Ireland & has the children as you do.

    Are you emilyt or is it someone you need to talk to?

    Col

     

    ColCaff

    Tuesday 15th October 2019, 04:43AM
  • Wow ,

    I really want and nee to thank you for all your time and your passion to help me.
    I tried to find the tree of emilyt on ancestry but no success. if you can contact her
    she write to me, as you, at pokemouche@hotmail.com
     

    One last thing, do you think that it could be possible. that someone in Ireland can have done is family tree and end with Michael Wade without
    knowing where who goes.... and we both expect each other ?

    Dboy1834

    Wednesday 16th October 2019, 02:17AM