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Timothy Dwyer and Mary Dillon were my paternal,my 3x great grandparents were farming at Ludden which I understand is in the Parish of ballybricken during the 1830s when Timothy was recorded in the Tithes Applottment record of that time. 

Their daughter Margaret from whom I descend emigrated to Qld Aust in 1865 with her husband Thomas Enright and 4 brothers. I would love to find what happened to her parents. I ave so far not found further record of them after the baptisms of of these children also in the 1830s

Any suggestions on where to look?

Cheers

Cheryl

CheryNellie

Saturday 25th July 2020, 01:52PM

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  • Cheryl:

    Welcome to Ireland Reaching Out!

    Ballybricken is an RC parish but not a civil parish. The Tithe listings are filed by civil parish and I believe the Timothy Dwyer you are looking for was in Ludden civil parish. This record is from 1826 and if this is your ancestor, he was leasing about 13 acres of land.  http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/reels/tab//004625695/004625695_00270.pdf

    However, in the 1850 Griffiths Valuation head of household listing for Ludden civil parish, no Dwyer is listed https://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths/limerick/ludden.htm  which implies that Timothy was deceased or moved to another location. When Margaret Dwyer married in 1864, the parish was St. John's in Limerick city so did your Timothy lose his holding and move to Limerick city?

    I searched on the subscription site Roots Ireland and they have Ballybricken baptismal records back to 1800, however, I did not locate any baptismal records for children of Timothy Dwyer and Mary Dillon anywhere in Co. Limerick.  Since you have the baptismal records, can you tell me the parish where the baptisms occurred? 

    Roger McDonnell

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Saturday 25th July 2020, 04:14PM
  • Hi Roger

    Thanks for looking into my query so quickly.

    I have found the baptisms of several children to Timothy & Mary dating from 1827 for Cath through to Michael in 1840. They are indexed and available freely on Ancestry & findmypast, but I did find them initially at the Parish Records site from NLI. And there is a marriage for 'Timotheus Dywre de Ballybricken & Maria Dillane' 11/2/1827 at Fedamore. I am confident these are my folk as Margarets death cert names them and the baptism dates match the ages of herself and her siblings in Australian records.

    The marriage record of Margaret Dwyer and Thomas Enright shows them as resident of the Limerick Lunatic Asylum where they were employees. Her fathers occupation given as labourer so yes he may have lost his tenancy,but there is no way to test that theory, it is just as likely labourer is in error or that he is deceased. Though this record confirms father's name it doesnt really link Margaret or Timothy to a place. Having this led me to the baptisms & Tithe records.

    So from your comments the civil parish = Ludden and the RC religeous Parish is ballybricken & Bohermore. I understand death/burials were not recorded by the RC church so I will focus on the Civil but these only began in 1864 so Mary and Timothy could fall through the gap between last known baptism and the start of these records.

    Thanks

    Cheryl

     

    CheryNellie

    Monday 27th July 2020, 01:50PM
  • Cheryl:

    I use the subscription site Roots Ireland for searches and usually Roots is very good about using alternative names when you search. I was searching with Mary Dillon and no records come up but when I used Dillane all the records appeared. Looks like there were two Margarets 1831 and 1834 so the 1831 Margaret must have died young.

    Regarding death records, hopefully they died 1864 or later. Right now the free site www.irishgenealogy.ie only has index records for deaths from 1864-1877 and full images 1878 on. We expect that in the near future, images for the 1864-1877 period will be added. 

    Roger

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Tuesday 28th July 2020, 03:28PM