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I am trying to gather information on Patrick Partridge from  Ardagh and Moydow

Ardagh and Moydow

Diocese of Ardagh | County of Longford

Variant forms of parish name:

Ardagh

Moydow

I believe he was born to Peter and Honor Partridge her madian name was Fitzpatrick I found the following 

1796/4  Petridge, Mary                Peter                   H. Fitzpatrick
1798/2  Petridge, Pat.                   Peter                   H. Fitzpatrick
1800/8  Petridge,Honor                Peter                   H. Fitzpatrick
1803/4  Petrege,* Pete                Peter                   H. Fitzpatrick
1806/2  Petridge, Brid.                 Peter                   H. Fitzpatrick

 

I believe he married :

1824    3 ( MAR)    Patridge, Patrick     McCormick, Ellen

Name

Pat Partridge

Gender Male

Event Type Marriage

Marriage Date 2 Mar 1824

Marriage Place Ardagh and Moydow, Ireland, Ireland ( I can't make out the name of the church on th nil record , looks like Horburghs)

Diocese Ardagh

Spouse Elen McCormick

The first record I have of him in America is a tax record from 1834

Patrick Partridge
Ohio Tax Records, 1800-1850

Name:Patrick Partridge

Event Type:Tax Assessment

Event Date:1834 

Event Place:Ohio, United States • 

Event Place (Original):Ohio, United States

Ellen shows up on the 1850 census, it also shows his daughter was born in New York, possibly when they landed in America? which would of been about 1832 +/-  a year. 

Patrick Patridge
United States Census, 1850

Name:Patrick Patridge • 

Event Type:Census

Event Date:1850 • 

Event Place:Perry Township, Brown, Ohio, United States •

Event Place (Original):Perry, Brown, Ohio, United States

Sex:MaleAge:55

Race:White

Birth Year (Estimated):1795

Birthplace:Ireland • 

type:1850

PopulationHouse Number:778

Household

Role

Sex

Age

Birthplace

Patrick Patridge

Male

55

Ireland

Ellen Patridge

Female

49

Ireland

Mary A Patridge

Female

18

New York

Peter Patridge

Male

17

Ohio

Thomas Patridge

Male

15

Ohio

Burnet Patridge

Male

13

Ohio

Catherine Patridge

Female

6

Ohio

I have not found a record of him crossing, no ship records of the two of them, so I am not sure if Ellen was pregnant when they crossed or if she became pregnant when they landed in New York.

Any information would be a wonderful, even if this Patrick is not my Patrick at least I will know. I will be visiting this July to Ireland. I hope I can find the connection to area the Partriidges' lived in Longford and visit.

Thank you

Jan

 

 

Jan

Sunday 10th Apr 2022, 08:39PM

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  • Jan,

    Thanks for your enquiry and for all the information you included.

    Patrick & Ellen Patridge of Perry, Brown, Ohio, U.S. do appear to be a good match to the Patrick Patridge & Ellen McCormick you found in the Ardagh & Moydow Parish, County Longford, Ireland records.

    The fact that Patrick Patridge of Perry, Brown, Ohio, U.S. had a son named Peter, also leads to the possibility that Patrick Patridge was the son of Peter Petridge and Honor Fitzpatrick with the unusual combination of Peter as a Christian Name and Patridge as a Surname.

    Of the 10 Patridge baptisms recorded on the Roots Ireland website between 1785 and 1805, 5 were in County Westmeath, 2 in County Longford, 1 in County Antrim, 1 in County Down and 1 in County Dublin. There may also have been other Patridge baptisms in these and other Counties, as many of Irish Parish records only commence in the 1820s/1830s.

    Do you have any information confirming that Patrick Patridge & Ellen McCormick were from County Longford, like death certificate, obituary, tombstone information etc.

    Looking at the 1840 U.S. Census, I see a Patrick Patridge recorded at Perry, Brown, Ohio who appears to be the Patrick Patridge recorded with Ellen in the 1850 Census. Athough no names of the residents are recorded, apart from the householder, the ages of the males and females in the household are given in the 1840 Census. Comparing against the 1850 Census, I note:

    - the 1 male and 1 female recorded in the age group 40 to 50 in 1840, match closely enough Patrick and Ellen Patridge in the 1850 Census

    - the 2 girls in the age group 10 to 15 do not appear in the 1850 census

    - the 1 girl in the age group 5 to 10 appears to be Mary A.

    - 1 of the boys in the age group 5 - 10 does not appear in the 1850 census whilst the other 1 appears to be Peter

    - the 2 boys aged under 5 appear to be Thomas and Burnet

    - Catherine was not recorded in the 1840 Census as she was born c1844.

    Focussing on the two girls aged 10 to 15, they are likely to have been born in New York, like Mary A. in c1832, or even possibly in Ireland. Two children being born in the period 1825 to 1830 also matches the Patrick Patridge & Ellen McCormick family as they were married in Ardagh & Moydow Parish, County Longford in 1824.

    I have not been able to locate any baptisms for the children of Patrick Patridge & Ellen McCormick in County Longford in the period 1824 to 1834 and so it looks likely that the two girls were born in New York, along with Mary A..

    I wasn't able to see the reference to Horburghs in the NLI records, could it be Ardagh (County Longford) or St. Werburgh's Parish (County Dublin). If you send me on the link I may be able to decipher it.

    I'll keep digging and see if I can find anything further that may be of interest in your genealogical quest.

    Greetings from Ireland,

    David Leahy,

    Limerick

    (native of County Longford)

    David Leahy, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘︎

    Wednesday 13th Apr 2022, 09:59PM
  • David,
    Thak you for the reply. I uploaded the nil file if you look at the top of the page on the right you will see it has the St.????? I am unable to read it. I have the tombstone inscriptions, but they are in a PDF and I can't upload it I will type it out and send over after work. I did upload the headstone. I will also upload all the information the cemetery gave me. I have not been able to locate Peter's death certificate, but still looking . I appreciate the help. I am off work tomorrow so I will send more information, but here is the cemetery information of Peter and the McNellis and their children. The record says

    Patrick born longfornd co ire 8/22/1798
    Elln- w/o P native of Co west meath Ireland

    Jan

    Thursday 14th Apr 2022, 02:09PM
  • David,
    I just uploaded the tombstone inscriptions for the Partridge's. I will dig deeper into where the children were born and see if I can order or locate their death certificates. I have no clue where to look in New York for them in the 1830's I am not sure where they would of lived, or if they stayed with relatives? Maybe a death certificate will have some answers. I found it odd that all the death information had their Nativity as Ohio? not Ireland. Thank you agin for your help!
    Jan

    Jan

    Friday 15th Apr 2022, 02:01AM
  • Jan,

    Thanks for all the additional information which I will review for you. I note that County Longford is confirmed as Peter Patridge's birthplace on his tombstone inscription and his year of birth matches exactly with Patrick Petridge born in Ardagh and Moydow Parish, County Longford in 1798.

    1798 was a turbulent year in Ireland which saw a major battle at Ballinamuck, County Longford, as part of the 1798 Rebellion, where the combined Irish and French forces were defeated by the British forces. 

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Rebellion_of_1798

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballinamuck

    The text at the top of the Ardagh & Moydow Parish baptismal record is indeed 'St. Werburghs' which is a Parish in Dublin City.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Werburgh%27s_Church,_Dublin

    It appears to be a note in the Register belonging to a much later page in the Register and probably relates to a baptism, marriage or burial of someone from Ardagh & Moydow Parish which occurred in St. Werburghs, so it doesn't appear to be relevant in your case.

    David

     

    David Leahy, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘︎

    Friday 15th Apr 2022, 09:23AM
  • David!

    Thank you  I am going to read up on the battle before I come over in July. I hope we an prove that this is my Partridge, but it is looking good so far. Would you by chance know if they were married in the Church in Parish of Ardagh and Moydow . I see that there are two churches one Ardagh and one Moydow.I didn't know if there was some way to see on the nil document which churh the marriage or baptism took place. I would love to visit the church.. I found Paricks will I will send it to you. He does not say where he is from, but goes on to say if the kids don't stay on the land and help his wife ( their mother) then they are booted out from the farm and get nothing from his estate! I also found his son't Peters will which may be helpful to us , I think I found a lead. Peter went on to take care of his fathers farm and his mum. He did not marry and at the time of his death it looks like the family was going to see the farm or at least it seems that wasy in his will. He was giving away a lot of money and his possessions. BUT it also gives $200 to his 2Cuz a Thomas McCormick when he turns 21 . If he doesn't live to 21 then it goes to his brother George. I did some digging and I came across a family in the area. A Owen McCormick and his wife Mary who had sons Thomas and George.  Peter says 2nd Cuz I take that to be second cousin which could mean that Owen was related to his mother. Which is s new name to look up to see if it helps tie the pieces together, since I have nothing on Ellen and her family. Mary H Partridge is proving to be difficult to locate as well as her husband Patrick Byrne and their three children. I'll of couse send over anything  I find that could be useful.

    Thank you!

    Jan

    Jan

    Saturday 16th Apr 2022, 03:23PM
  • Jan,

    Although on skimming, I cannot see any reference to the Patridges, as most of the records appear to relate to pre-1820, the following may be of interest as background information in relation to their early years in the United States:

    The History of Brown County, Ohio (1883)

    https://archive.org/details/bub_gb_udUyAQAAMAAJ/page/n449/mode/2up

    Perry Township starts on page 475 (page 450 of 976 on scanned pages)

     

    Starting back in Ireland, I found the full marriage and baptismal records of your ancestral family in the Ardagh & Moydow Registers, County Longford, Ireland as follows:

     

    Married 01 February 1795

    https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632362#page/105/mode/1up

    Peter Petridge and Honor Fitzpatrick

    witnesses: Edmond Petridge and Patrick Oats

     

    Baptised 15 April 1796

    https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632362#page/12/mode/1up

    Mary, daughter of Peter Petridge and Honor Fitzpatrick

    sponsors: Darby Ferrall (Farrell) and Mary Syry (Seery?)

     

    Baptised 27 February 1798

    https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632362#page/18/mode/1up

    Patrick, son of Peter Petridge and Honor Fitzpatrick

    sponsors: Andrew Keena and Margaret Lyons

     

    Baptised 23 August 1800

    https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632362#page/27/mode/1up

    Honor, daughter of Peter Petridge and Honor Fitzpatrick

    sponsors: Thomas Burke? and Catharine Ward

     

    Baptised 29 April 1803

    https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632362#page/33/mode/1up

    Peter, son of Peter Petrege and Mary (presumably Honor) Fitzpatrick

    sponsors: Daniel Petridge and Ann Syry (Seery?)

     

    Baptised 04 February 1806

    https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632362#page/41/mode/1up

    Bridget, daughter of Peter Petridge and Honor Fitzpatrick

    sponsors Thomas Duffy and Elizabeth Fitzpatrick

     

    Based on the above information, I see potential connected families in the Ardagh and Moydow Parish records as follows:

     

    Baptised 19 May 1793

    https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632362#page/5/mode/1up

    Denis, son of James Mahon and Bridget Victory

    sponsors: Peter Petridge and Catheine Victory

    [This could be Peter Patridge who married Honor Fitzpatrick]

     

    Baptised 03 December 1794

    https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632362#page/8/mode/1up

    Ann, daughter of Patrick McLoughlin and Mary Petridge

    sponsors: Connor McGrath and Honor Fitzpatrick

    [This could be Honor Fitzpatrick Petridge]

     

    In relation to Andrew Keena, sponsor for Patrick Petridge (above)  in 1798, I see the following marriage:

     

    Married 08 July 1797

    https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632362#page/108/mode/1up

    Andrew Keena and Margaret Fitzpatrick

    witnesses: John Keena and Connor McGrath

    [Margaret Fitzpatrick could have been a sister, or close relative of Honor Fitzpatrick Patridge]

    [Connor McGrath was also a sponsor for Ann McLoughlin in 1794, daughter of Mary Petridge McLoughlin above]

     

    Elizabeth Fitzpatrick, sponsor for Bridget Petridge (above) in 1806, could have been another sister, or close relative of Honor Fitzpatrick's.

     

    Daniel Petridge, sponsor for Peter Petridge jun. (above) in 1803, could have been a brother, or close relative of Peter Petridge sen.

     

    Edmond Petridge, witness at Peter Petridge and Honor Fitzpatrick's marriage in 1795, could have been a brother, or close relative of Peter Petridge.

    I see three children baptised to Edmond Petridge and Elizabeth Syry (Seery?), namely:

    Mary Petridge (30 December 1794), Honora Petridge (26 May 1797) and Edmond Petridge jun. (26 December 1798).

    Mary Syry is recorded as a sponsor for Mary Petridge in 1796 (above) and Ann Syry is recorded as a sponsor for Peter Petrege in 1803 (above) and so they could be sisters, or close relatives of Elizabeth Syry.

    Interestingly, Patrick Oats is listed as a sponsor for Honora Petridge in 1797, and is probably the same Patrick Oats who is recorded as a witness to Peter Petridge's marriage in 1795.

     

    I see four baptisms to children of Patrick Oats and Honor Petridge as follows:

    Mary (01 September 1793), Patrick (12 March 1804), Patrick (14 August 1805) and Bridget (24 February 1810)

    [Honor Petridge Oats could have been a sister, or other close relative of Peter Patridge.]

     

     

    Married 02 March 1824

    https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632362#page/124/mode/1up

    Patrick Patridge and Ellen McCormick

    witnesses: Mick Callaghan and Owen McCormick

     

    There could have been baptisms prior to 12 February 1793, when the Ardagh and Moydow Parish Baptismal records commence.

     

    At the time of the Tithe Applotment Books, I see the following Petridges recorded, all in Ardagh Parish, County Longford:

    (Areas in Irish Acres, 1 Irish Acre = approximately 1.62 Statute Acres)

     

    1825 - Daniel Patridge

    Barneygole Townland, 10 Acres - 3 Roods - 0 Perches, Owner: The Bishop of Ardagh

    http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/reels/tab//004587398/004587398_00084.pdf

     

    1825 - James Patridge and Daniel Patridge, Widow Patridge, James McGrath & John McLoughlin

    Keeloges Townland, 31 Acres - 0 Roods - 0 Perches, Owner: The Primate / Edward O'Farrel Esq. - Tenant / John? O'Farrell

    http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/reels/tab//004587398/004587398_00091.pdf

     

    1825 - Dennis Kane and William Patridge / Dennis Kane and William Patridge including W. Patridge's

    Lissanisky Townland, 20 Acres - 01 Roods - 36 Perches, Owner: The Dean of Ardagh / Sir George R. Fetherston, Baronet - Tenant

    http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/reels/tab//004587398/004587398_00112.pdf

     

     

    At the time of Griffith's Primary Valuation in 1854, I see the following recorded in Ardagh and Moydow Parish, County Longford:

    1854 - John Partridge, Keeloges Townland, 4Ab-5A-5B, House-Land-Offices, 14 Acres - 0 Roods - 01 Perches

    1854 - DanielPartridge, Keeloges Townland, 4Ac-6, House-Land-Office, 07 Acres - 0 Roods - 31 Perches

    [Areas in Statute Acres]

    [John Lewis O'Farrell was the Immediate Lessor of the land]

    https://www.dib.ie/biography/oferrall-john-lewis-more-a6743

     

     

    Sir George Ralph Fetherston, Baronet owned Ardagh House, Ardagh Village, Ardagh Demesne and was the Immediate Lessor of 5,364 Acres in County Longford at the time of Griffiths Primary Valuation in 1854. The Village was remodelled around the 1850s.

    Oliver Goldsmith (1728 - 1774) based his 1771 play 'She Stoops to Conquer' on a visit he made to Ardagh House, the residence of the Fetherston family.

    Ardagh Village is a three-time Tidy Towns National Overall winner.

    Links to websites which may be of interest:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ardagh,_County_Longford

    https://www.libraryireland.com/topog/A/Ardagh-Ardagh-Longford.php

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_Goldsmith

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathedral_of_Saint_Mel_in_Ardagh

     

    Edgeworthstown, where I was born, is the next nearest Town to Ardagh Village, and was the seat of the Edgeworth Family. Maria Edgeworth (1768 - 1849), Novelist and prolific writer, lived there most of her life.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Edgeworth

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgeworthstown

     

    David Leahy, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘︎

    Sunday 17th Apr 2022, 06:49PM
  • David!

    Such great infromation! Thank you! Hey a few things I want to go over with you to make sure I have my facts right.  The marriages and the baptism's you have named were all in Ardagh correct not Moydow?

    I's really hard to keep track of all the Peters! But i feel really confident that this is were my Peter cam from. The over lapping names shows the closeness of th community and where every one knew everyone and families married into each others in the community. One big fact is the Owen McCormick connection. You have as a witness to Peter and Ellens marriage a Owen McCormick. I believe him to be Ellen brother his children Thomas and George were named in Peter Partridges will son of Patrick as his cousins!!! 

    Here are the Partridges I have found I would love to know how they are all related. I feel pretty certian that they are all related just don't know how.  When I look at all the names of the fathers I am wondering if the are all brothers? Daniel, James, Michael, Edmound, Patrick, Peter, and William. And who was Peter mom and dad who was Honors parents. I also have no information on Ellen McCormick what so ever, but if Owen is her brother I may get some hits if I put it up in my tree. Is ther any information about The McCormick families in the area? It says she came from West Meath. Is that close to Ardagh? I guess they could of met at church ? Or was the commuity a large one where they would have met in the villiage?

    I'll let you know if I get any hits when I put them up on my tree. I am still amazed that I have found no record of him comming over. I will have to dig deeper to hopfully prove that he was my ancestor. I have only cound a John Partridge coming over in 1820's maybe they come over with Owen ? 

    Thank you! So very much I have to come visit I am pretty sure our CIE tour comes close but I will have to make a plan to see the town on our trip!  I am hoping the church is still there!

    Oh before I forget , Bridget Partridge Peter and Ellens's first child she was born 1824 . On the 1850 Census it says she was born in Ireland: I was wondering if she was baptized in the same church as her mom and dad.

    Bridget Duffi

    in the 1850 United States Federal Census

    View

     

     

    Detail Source

    Name:Bridget Duffi

    Gender:Female

    Race:White

    Age:26Birth

    Year:abt 1824

    Birthplace:Ireland

    Home in 1850:

    Cincinnati Ward 6, Hamilton, Ohio,

    USALine Number:16Dwelling Number:405Family Number:527

     

     

    Year     month

    1820      7            Patridge, Dan                   Ward, Ellen

    1820      8            Patridge, James               Farrell, Rose

    1871      2            Patridge, John                 Magarry, Mary

    1885      5            Patridge, Patrick              Leavy, Mary

    1824      3            Patridge, Patrick              McCormick, Ellen

    1797      10          Patridge, Daniel               Syry, Catherine

    1817      2            Patridge, Michael McCormick, Jean

    1834      5            Patridge, Michael McGarry, Margaret

    1793      2            Patridge, Pat.                   Martin, Ann

    1795      2            Patridge, Peter                Fitzpatrick, Honor

     

    Year surname                                  father                    mother

    1823/1  Patridge, Mich                 Daniel                  E. Ward
    1832/6  Patridge, Dan.                  Daniel                  E. Ward
    1823/2  Patridge, Edw                  James                  R. Farrell
    1826/11Patridge, Eliz.                  James                  R. Farrell
    1831/2  Patridge, Jas.                   James                  R. Farrell
    1871/10Patridge, John                 John                     M. Magary
    1824/5  Patridge, Pat                    Michael               R. Rhen
    1826/10Patridge, Jas                    Michael               R. Rhen
    1886/3  Patridge,MaryA               Patrick                 M. Leavy
    1903/6  Petridge, Mary                Daniel                  C. Syry?
    1794/12Petridge, Mary               Edmond              E. Syry?
    1797/5  Petridge,Honora              EdmondE.               Syry?
    1798/12Petridge, Edm.                Edmond              M. Syry?
    1800/6  Petridge, John                 Daniel                  M. Syry?
    1795/3  Petridge, Ann                   James                  M. Shanly
    1797/3  Petridge,Biddy                 James                  M. Shanly
    1802/8  Petridge, Mary                James                  M. Shanly
    1806/7  Petridge, Wm.                 James                  M. Shanly
    1794/4  Petridge,Thady                Patrick                 A. Martin
    1795/3  Petridge, Mary                Patrick                 A. Martin
    1797/10Petridge, Marg               Patrick                 A. Martin
    1813/4  Petridge, Mary                Peter                   A. Burke
    1810/6  Petridge, Rose                 Peter                   E. Burke
    1796/4  Petridge, Mary                Peter                   H. Fitzpatrick
    1798/2  Petridge, Pat.                   Peter                   H. Fitzpatrick
    1800/8  Petridge,Honor                Peter                   H. Fitzpatrick
    1803/4  Petrege,* Pete                Peter                   H. Fitzpatrick
    1806/2  Petridge, Brid.                 Peter                   H. Fitzpatrick
    1795/6  Petridge, John                 Peter                   N. Sherrin?
    1794/12Petridge, Pete                 William               A. Beherton
    1796/4  Petridge, Mich                 William               A. Beherton
    1800/7  Petridge, Mary                William               A. Beherton
    1802/10Petridge,Marcel              William               A. Beherton
    1806/3  Petridge, Will                   William               A. Beherton

     

    deaths

    1833/7  Palfry, John....Ballinruddy

    1834/3  Patridge, Ellen....Ravaldron

    1831/3  Patridge, Michael....Drumro

    1872/5  Patridge, Rose....Ballinrudd

    1828/1  Patridge, William....Lisaniskey

    1850/1  Patridge, D....Keelouges

    1841/1  Patridge, Widow....Keelouges

    1834/5  Patridge, Widow....Keelouges

     

     

     

    Jan

    Tuesday 19th Apr 2022, 02:11AM
  • David

    Ellen McCormick her parents are 

    Thomas McCormack and Bridget O'Rorke I was mistaken when I said I did not have that information , so sorry for the confusion

    Jan

    Jan

    Tuesday 19th Apr 2022, 02:02PM
  •  

    Jan,

     

    Looking into the McCormicks I found the following information:

     

    Married 02 March 1824, Ardagh & Moydow Parish, County Longford, Ireland

    https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632362#page/124/mode/1up

    Patrick Patridge and Ellen McCormick

    witnesses: Mick Callaghan and Owen McCormick

     

    Ellen McCormick was born c1801 according to the 1850 Perry, Brown, Ohio, US Census.

    The witness Owen McCormick could have been her brother, or other close relative.

     

     

    I found the other Owen McCormick in the 1860 US Census at Madison, Highland, Ohio and he was recorded as having been born c1832 in Ireland 

    I also found this Owen McCormick in the 1870 US Census at Greenfield, Highland, Ohio and he was recorded as having been born c1823 in Ireland

    He would be of an age to possibly be the nephew of the bride Ellen McCormick Patridge & wittness Owen McCormick recorded at the marriage in 1824.

    Owen McCormick married Mary Smith on 27th July 1856 at Highland, Ohio, US

     

     

    As you state that Owen McCormick was the son of Thomas McCormack and Bridget O'Rorke, we therefore have the following possibility:

    Ellen McCormick, Owen McCormick & Thomas McCormack were siblings and all born c1801 and all born in County Westmeath (as Ellen McCormick Patridge was according to her tombstone).

    Owen McCormack was born c1823 - 1832, possibly in County Westmeath.

     

    County Westmeath shares a border with County Longford and Rathaspick and Russagh RC Parish shares a border with three of Ardagh Parish's townlands. However the townlands where the Patridges were recorded in 1825, i.e. Barneygole, Keeloges and Lissanisky are at least c2 miles from the County Westmeath border.

     

    I did not find any Owen McCormack/McCormick baptisms in the period 1818 - 1838 in either County Westmeath or County Longford on the subscription Roots Ireland website.

    At least 10 of County Westmeath's 28 RC parishes have record commencement dates of 1824 or later and so Owen McCormick's baptism would have gone unrecorded if it occurred in those parishes.

    Does Owen McCormick's tombstone indicate a County of birth or place of birth in Ireland ?.

     

    It's not possible to say that all of the baptisms and marriages Patridges recorded in the Ardagh and Moydow Parish records occurred in Ardagh Parish, but it is possible in light og the Ardagh Parish addresses for all the Patridges in the 1825 Tithe Applotment Books and 1854 Griffith's Primary Valuation records and all the burial addresses for the Patridges are in Ardagh Parish.

     

    I note that Patrick Patidge or Honor (Fitzpatrick) Patridge do not apear in the Ardagh and Moydow burial records, although Honor (Fitzpatrick) Patridge could have been one of the two Widow Patridges recorded from Keeloges. Coud they have emigrated to the US ?.

     

    Hoping this helps further

     

    David Leahy, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘︎

    Friday 22nd Apr 2022, 10:34AM
  • David!

    Thanks for the information! I will look into Owen  a bit more, I feel there is a connection there just have to find the missing link. Question so do you think that Patrick and Ellen were married at St Bridgets? or St Patrick's ? The reason is we will be close to the area on day nine of our trip. We are supposed to go and have a drink at Sean bar before heading to Galway. We were thinking we might take a taxi up to Ardagh & Moydow to visit the church where my ancestors were married then head back to Athlone hope a train to Galway to meet up with our group again. So I am trying to pinpoint the church or the graveyard to visit! I am a bit confused on all the chuches and parishes or is the church they married in not around anymore?

    I found something a bit intriguing!  Another Patrick Partridge from Co Longford!!

    Patrick Partridge

    BIRTH1810

    County Longford, Ireland

    DEATH24 Aug 1870 (aged 59–60)

    Cincinnati, Hamilton County, Ohio, USA

    BURIAL

    Price Hill, Hamilton County, Ohio, USA Saint Joseph Irish Cemetery

     

    I reached out to my friend Robert who is the general manager at the Cemetery to see if he has any information on him. He has to be a relative maybe his brother??  Cousin? I'll leet you know when he gets to me. I am very intreseted to see if I am related to him . It seems a large chunk of my family is buried at this cemetery!

     

    I went on find a grave to look for Peter or Honors name to see if they did come over then they would have been buried in Ohio close to Patrick. I did not find them but found this treasure of this new Patrick.!

    There are a lot of Partridges in Ohio  a few  born in the early 1700 in Medfield  Massachusetts then moved to the Cleveland area of Ohio, I believe all the Partridges in this area all came from the same family in Medfield. A relative was a revolutionary war soldier, so it could be the case he was given land in the area and he and his family settled the land. Another branch outside of  Columbus Ohio, then my family farther south toward Cincinnati Ohio . I am goiing to go dig and see what I can find! 

    Thank you! 
    Jan

    Jan

    Saturday 23rd Apr 2022, 08:24PM
  • This may be our Owen  still looking ...

     

    https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/129549434/owen-mccormick

    Jan

    Saturday 23rd Apr 2022, 09:34PM
  • If you go to the link I gave you you will see that this Owen had two boys and a girl boys are Thomas and George which fits the names in the Partridge will. I bet this is the cousin to Peter Partridge that he talks about in his will.

     

    Owen Married a Mary Smith in Ohio

    Ohio, Marriages, 1803-1900

    Name: Owen McCORMICK

    Gender: Male

    Spouse: Mary Smith

    Spouse Gender: Female

    Marriage Date: 27 Jul 1856

    County: Highland

    State: Ohio

     

    Owen McCormack - Died: July 23, 1878 - Aged: 42 Years - (Quotation at bottom cannot be read - too worn) St. Joseph Cemetery is located at the intersection if Second & Spring Streets in Greenfield, Ohio. Not to be confused with Greenfield Cemetery which is on N. Washington St. There is no tombstone for his wife the former Mary Smith who died in 20 Jul 1920 Highland Co. Her death certificate says she was buried Greenfield Cemetery. I do not believe she is buried in the much larger Greenfield Cemetery. They were a Catholic family and I would expect her to be buried St. Joseph. Perhaps there is just no tombstone for her.

    https://images.findagrave.com/photos/2014/128/129549434_1399687937.jpg

     

    I am going to see if I can track down his death certificate

     

    Jan

    Saturday 23rd Apr 2022, 09:50PM
  • Jan

    Saturday 23rd Apr 2022, 10:08PM
  • David,

    bummer nothing on the other Patrick Partridge just got this from Robert,

    Janis, he is in the system spelled "Partridge"

    Only information we have is he was from Longford ,no paretns listed 60 years old

     

    Jan

    Saturday 23rd Apr 2022, 10:24PM
  • Thinking about Owen McCormick, since he was born in 1831 he must be or could be the son of the Owen who was a witness to Ellen and Patricks wedding which could explain the second cousin comment in the will I will see if I can get anything more on him from the State or the county clerk office

    Jan

    Jan

    Saturday 23rd Apr 2022, 10:43PM
  • Attached Files

    found Owen's death record no luck on Parents, darn!

    Jan

    Saturday 23rd Apr 2022, 10:56PM
  •  

    Jan,

     

    That's a pity we cannot find Owen McCormick parent's names or his Townland, Parish or County of birth so that we can look for his baptism record in Ireland.

     

    I note that the list showing the following details:

    Owen McCormick, died 2 June 1873, married, aged 42, born in Ireland, Labourer

    Owen McCormick, died 11 January 1874, single, aged 2 years - 11 months - 4 days, born Greenfield (looks like Owen McCormick sen.'s son)

    is headed 'Record of Deaths, Probate Court, Highland County, Ohio, 1874

     

    Hopefully there is a state or county death certificate for Owen McCormick sen. which may provide some background information on him.

     

    The denominations of land in Ireland are generally made up of Townlands, Parishes and Counties.

    There are Roman Catholic Parishes and Civil (or Church of Ireland) Parishes. Each religion had their own churches and kept their own parish records.

    Ardagh and Moydow Roman Catholic Parish essentially equates to the combined Ardagh Civil Parish and Moydow Civil Parish.

    There are two Catholic Churches in Ardagh and Moydow Parish, one at Ardagh (St. Brigid's or St. Bridget's - built c1881) and one at Moydow (St. Mary's - built c1840).

    https://www.buildingsofireland.ie/buildings-search/building/13312031/st….

    https://www.buildingsofireland.ie/buildings-search/building/13401812/st…

    St. Patrick's Church in Ardagh is a Church of Ireland

    https://www.buildingsofireland.ie/buildings-search/building/13312032/st…

     

    As the Patridges were recorded at the eastern end of Ardagh and Moydow Catholic Parish at the time the 1825 Tithe Applotment Books and at the time of the 1854 Griffith's Primary Valuation and as they appear in the Ardagh and Moydow Catholic Parish registers, it is likely that they attended Ardagh Catholic Church for baptisms, marriages and funerals. There is an old church (now in ruins) and adjoining graveyard to the north of the village which could have been the old Catholic Church.

     

    Luke Baxter's book 'Our Roots in Stone - Memorial Records - Ardagh, Co. Longford 1646 - 1910' contains an index to those buried in the Old Lower Churchyard, Ardagh, County Longford and those buried in St. Patrick's Churchyard, Ardagh, County Longford. Neither record a Patridge tombstone. However, the following on page 111 in St. Patrick's Churchyard, may be of interest:

    Mary Farrell alias Peatradge, departed 18th May 1840, aged 44

    Erected by her husband James Farrell of Lisduff

     

    Mary Peatradge Farrell is of an age to be a possibility for the Mary Petridge baptised in 1796, daughter of Peter Petridge and Honor Fitzpatrick.

    Interestingly, an Honor Petridge appears as a sponsor for her son Edward Farrell's baptism on 27th August 1834.

    It was not uncommon for grandparents to be sponsors for their grandchildren in that era and so Honor Patridge could be Honor Fitzpatrick Patridge.

    https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632362#page/82/mode/1up

     

    Page 1 to page 6 and other pages in the following book should be of interest to you as they relate to Ardagh:

    Records relating to the Diocese of Ardagh by Very Rev. John Canon Monahan (1886)

    https://www.askaboutireland.ie/aai-files/assets/ebooks/169_Record-Relat…

     

     

     

     

    David Leahy, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘︎

    Sunday 24th Apr 2022, 05:07PM
  • Hi David! 

    I am gathering information before I leave for Scotland/Ireland this Saturday! I was able to get an appointmet at the :

    You have booked Appointment 1 with Public Office Appointment 2 Hours at 21-07-2022 10:00 AM. 

     

    So I only have two hours to get a lot of information. On my list is the Partridge family, looking back at our conversation we can safely say the Peter and Honor were my great grandparets. SO I want to try and trace what happen to them at the Public office. The Griffiths valuation has the two listed John and Daniel. Are they realted to my Peter, is the first question and to prove it. Two I am tryig to trace the other childern of Honor and Peter.

    I have started with Mary b 1796. We thought that she could be the one in the grave yard with the last name of  Farrell. I found a marrage document of a Mary and a Pat Ferrell

    First name(s) Maria

    County LongfordLast name Farrell Or PetridgeCountry IrelandBurial year 1840Repository National Library of IrelandDeath year 1840National Library of Ireland register http://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632362#page/1/mode/1upDeath date 20 May 1840Register BurialAddress LisduffRecord set Ireland Roman Catholic Parish BurialsParish Ardagh and MoydowCategory Birth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)Alternative parish names Ardagh, MoydowSubcategory Parish BurialsDiocese ArdaghCollections from Ireland

    I stronly suspect that this is her, if so then maybe John or Daniel are or could be her children?  

    I will look into Honor, Pete and Bridget. I don't have any death information about them or the parents . So the question was did they leave for , which I don't think so. The other childern could have left like my ancestor did , but I think Mary stayed and married the Ferrell and maybe she was the one to take care of the parents? Could the parents be buried in another grave yard close by or on their land?

     

    Thank you for all your help!

    Jan

    Jan

    Wednesday 29th Jun 2022, 05:18PM
  • David ,

    two things in the messge above I relized that you already made the connection to the Mary marriage to a Farrell but to a Edmund he was the spouce who put up the grave marker. The marriage date that I have for a Mary and Pat is after the baptism that you have her mother as godmother . 

    Also looking at the names at names on the other documents that you thought could be potintal relatives I fell safe to think that this is my family.

    1825 - James Patridge and Daniel Patridge, Widow Patridge, James McGrath & John McLoughlin

    Keeloges Townland, 31 Acres - 0 Roods - 0 Perches, Owner: The Primate / Edward O'Farrel Esq. - Tenant / John? O'Farrell

    http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/reels/tab//004587398/004587398_00091.pdf

     

    But how are they related to each other and dto the John and Danile of the Griffiths of 1854

    Jan

    Jan

    Wednesday 29th Jun 2022, 06:00PM

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