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I am trying to find any records of the Royal Irish Constabulary that might be held related to persons from this parish. I dont seem to be able to make a link through Ancestry.com, although at some point that was the direction in which I was pointed. The reason - my great great grandfather Matthew Gleeson lived in Clonlara and his family emigrated to Australia in a couple of batches in the early 1850's and late 1850's, including his wife. But he has disappeared without a trace. And there was no anecdotal information about him handed down except one now deceased person said she had heard he was a policeman. So I am trying to establish where the nearest barracks would have been to Clonlara and if there are records of who in the local community signed up. Given they were civil records I suspect they went up in smoke in 1922. Thanks and regards, Laurence J Gleeson

 

 

lozzagee46

Monday 18th May 2020, 04:02AM

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  • Hi

    The records are available in the National Archives in Dublin   www.nationalarchives.ie  and in Kew, Sussex, England. 

    The libraries are closed at the moment, but hopefully they will be open in a few weeks time. I am wating for the opening to do some research myself.

    You should check with your local library for "The Royal Irtish Constabulary" by Jim Herlihy. It contains the names of those who joined from 1816 to 1922

    I will check to see if there is a "Matthew Gleeson" native County Clare.

    Regards,

     

    McCoy

    Monday 18th May 2020, 08:18AM
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    Dear lozzagee:

    here is a link to Kew which you might find useful.  https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/royal-irish-constabulary/

    As McCoy stated, Jim Herlihy's book is the bible for RIC information in Ireland.  He does have a FB page which you might useful if you are on FB.  Here is another link which you might find helpful.

    http://www.royalirishconstabulary.com/index2012.html

    I have also just come across a forum where there is a list of RIC barracks compiled in County Clare.  You should definitely take a look at this site:  https://irishconstabulary.com/clare-t630.html

    If you need any further help, please let me know.

     

    All the best,

     

    Jane

    Jane Halloran Ryan

    Wednesday 20th May 2020, 10:11AM
  • I hope I have not posted this message 3 times now. I have touched something on two occasions and lost this window and all the typing!! So i just wanted to say thanks for the two fabulous replies. There is a copy of the book mentioned in the State Library of Victoria in Melbourne, but I will not be going up to the 'big smoke' for a while as I am in the bad outcome risk age group for this COVID.

    In relation to some general stuff about links, I live near Koroit district in Victoria which had a big Irish settlement starting in the 1840's. See below. As Jane HR said the Irish often gathered in locations as there was the comfort of family links, the brogue and the Faith and the support that these brought in a strange land. For my generation I just wondered what it meant to leave and never see your home or native ground again.

    This book may be of interest to your readers as many of the families came from East Clare. The historian who compiled the work was Helen Doyle.

    Church on the Hill: A Centenary History of St Brigid’s, Crossley, and its Irish-Australian Community

    This is a richly illustrated history of St Brigid’s Crossley, in south-west Victoria, which traces the origins of its immigrant settlers who arrived in the district from the 1840s onwards, and the development of what likely became the most concentrated Irish Catholic settlement in Victoria. The book traces the development of community life, as well as farming life and the Catholic faith. It investigates an ongoing Irish influence in the area and the part this Irish identity played in relation to some of the prevailing issues of the day, such as the cessation of funding of Catholic schools in 1873 and the debate over conscription during World War I. This book includes over 100 short family histories of many of the families who settled at Crossley, Killarney and Tower Hill.

    https://www.garrattpublishing.com.au

    lozzagee46

    Thursday 21st May 2020, 03:31AM
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    Hi Lozzagee46,

    Many thanks for your kind comments and the information you have supplied. Being pre-computer, I too have this problem occasionally!

    I spent 14 nights in Melbourne September 2007, took the Ghan from Adelaide to Alice Springs for 3 nights and returned via Ayres Rock and took in the Sunrise after a night in the open. An enjoyable trip.

    Regards,

     

    McCoy

    Friday 22nd May 2020, 07:03AM
  • Hi Lizzie:

    Many thanks for your nice reply and for the information about the book which I think would be of great interest to some of our members.  Your sharing that information is much appreciated.

     

    As you will not be travelling soon, will you contact me directly at:  jhalloranryan@irelandxo.com.  I may be able to pursue another avenue for you.

    Stay safe and well.  Your beautiful country is on my bucket list!

    All the best,

    Jane

     

    Jane Halloran Ryan

    Friday 22nd May 2020, 10:41AM
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    Good hunting

    Patricia Smith

     

    GOTO ANCESTRY.COM.  They have a listing of the RIC

     

    patriciasmith9

    Sunday 7th Jun 2020, 12:08PM
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    Good hunting

    Patricia Smith

     

    GOTO ANCESTRY.COM.  They have a listing of the RIC

     

    patriciasmith9

    Sunday 7th Jun 2020, 12:08PM
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    Hi Lozzagee46

    I have checked the RIC index by Jim Herlihy. There are five Martin Gleeson, but no "Matthew".

    Griffith Valuations - www.askaboutireland.ie - has a record of a "Matthew Gleeson" in Clonlara in 1852. He is leasing a house there.

    A Matthew Gleeson married Bridget Rahilly on February 22nd 1835. He is recorded as being from Doonass parish and she from Bridgetown parish.

    I will try and forward a copy to you. Their Numbere is 270 on the page.

    Best Wishes,

    McCoy

    Wednesday 10th Jun 2020, 12:11PM
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    Hi Lozzagee46,

    Further to previous post the following are shown to have been member of the Irish, later Royal Irish Police: Native County - Clare

    Name    Age at Joining   Year of Joining

    John Sheehan  18  1836

    John Sheehan 18  1840

     James Sheehan  20  1845

    Michael Sheehan  24  1851

    Thomas Sheehan  21  1856  Died  1872,

    John Sheehan  19  1865

    Thomas Sheehan  19  1867

    John Sheehan  17  1873

    Those Members could be from any part of County Clare, so you will have to decide which are most likely to be of interest to you.

    Credits: www.ancestry.co.uk

    Regards,

     

    McCoy

    Wednesday 10th Jun 2020, 06:54PM

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