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Richard and Mary Fitzgerald and daughter Margaret (b. 1914)

Good afternoon, I am searching for relatives of my paternal great-grandfather Richard Fitzgerald who lived in Kilmanihan, County Kerry, at the time he registered his daughter Margaret's birth (b 17.03.1914). Richard's wife was Mary, nee Lane. According to their daughter's birth certificate, Richard was a creamery engine fireman. (If anyone knows what that entailed, I would love to know.) Margaret's birth was registered in Brosna No 1, in the district of Tralee.

I believe Margaret left Ireland in 1939 and settled in London, where she married my grandfather (Leonard Walmsley) and my father was born a year later.

If anyone knows of any  descendants of Richard, Mary and Margaret, I would dearly love to hear from them as I have never known any of my father's family. I would also be grateful for any links to any censuses of that period.

Many thanks.

 

SueT

Tuesday 23rd February 2021, 01:18PM

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  • Sue:

    Richard and Mary married in 1908 and the names of their fathers are on this document    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_ret...

    Possible 1911 census record http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Kerry/Knocknagashel/Fea... (Mary would have been born before parent's marriage)

    Found a couple sisters to Margaret.

    sister Catherine 1920 seventh record   https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_return...

    sister Elizabeth 1912 second record   https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_return...

    I think Richard had various jobs on a creamery train.

    Let me know what questions you have.

    Roger McDonnell

    Castlemore Roscommon

    Tuesday 23rd February 2021, 03:10PM
  • Dear Roger, 

    Thank you so much for this information. I did have a look at the 1911 Census but was unable to pinpoint the right family. The link you sent threw up an error code, but I can keep looking.

    On Margaret's marriage cert it states her father was a 'railway worker', which ties in with his driving an engine at various times, so I am certain we have the right people.

    Only today I received  Margaret's birth cert, showing her d.o.b as being 17.3.1914, (which is two months out , according to her entry on the 1939 UK Register, but I suppose people often forgot their birthdays back then!) but her birth wasn't registered until 1916; however her parents married in 1908, so they were married when she was born. When I put Kilmanihan on some sites it doesn't seem to be recognised; should I be using Kilmaheen instead?

    I am very excited to learn Margaret had two sisters. I am going to put them on my tree on Ancestry.co.uk right now in case any Hints come up.

    I am so grateful for this and I will let Ireland Reaching Out know if I find any long-lost relatives. As I said in my first post, this family has been a mystery to me for so long and as my father is dead I can't ask him. In fact, he probably would not even have known these details himself. 

    My very best wishes,

    Sue 

     

     

     

     

     

     

    SueT

    Tuesday 23rd February 2021, 04:15PM
  • Dear Roger, 

     

    I am sorry to bother you again, but I am not familiar with Irish places names and am unable to hazard an educated guess!

    Would you be able to decipher the places of residence for Richard and Mary on their marriage record, please? And was it at the church in Brosna?  https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_ret...

    I have added Margaret's sisters to my tree on Ancestry and have had three matches for Elizabeth, so I am hoping to receive replies from the creator of her trees at some stage.

    Many thanks again,

    Sue Campbell

     

     

     

    SueT

    Tuesday 23rd February 2021, 06:04PM
  • Sue:

    Mary was from Knockafreaghaun townland in Brosna civil parish.

    Richard was from Millstreet Co. Cork  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millstreet  Looks like Two Greens as the location within Millstreet. See this link possible connection  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Glens_Arena

    Here is another try for the 1911 census. Richard was listed as a creamery hand   http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Kerry/Knocknagashel/Fea... The townland is Feavautia in Castleisland civil parish. 

    Roger

    Castlemore Roscommon

    Wednesday 24th February 2021, 05:32PM
  • Dear Roger, 

    Many thanks again for your help.

    The links worked and I accessed the pdf.

    I have also just been in touch with descendants of Richard's brother and it sounds as if they have lots of family details to share.

    Can you please tell me if my original message is on the Kerry message board or the general one? If it is not on the Kerry board I will move it on to there as well in case any of Richard's descendants see it in future.

    I am so grateful  for your research and help. 

    Best wishes,

    Sue

     

     

     

     

    SueT

    Thursday 25th February 2021, 09:09AM
  • Sue:

    Your message was posted in the "general" area. You could add tothe Kerry pahge and also Brosna civil parish.

    Roger

    Castlemore Roscommon

    Friday 26th February 2021, 02:07PM