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I realise the church burnt down.  I'm hoping my ancestor's records are available somewhere.  Supposedly intombed there.

JONATHAN TURNER HOUSTON sometimes recorded as TURNER HOUSTON.

Died between 1835 - 1945.

Most grateful for any information.

gabriel gurney

Wednesday 13th Oct 2021, 03:27AM

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  • Hi Gabriel,
    Died between 1835 - 1945.................
    Trying to help......a marriage....
    Parents.......
    Year of birth.....
    Occupation........

    Was he a Confectioner and was in Hawkins' Street in 1836?
    Possible marriage to a Lucy O'Haloran in 1825?
     Only death I found
    NameJOHATHAN HOUSTON
    Date of Death1870
    Group Registration IDN/RSR
    District/Reg AreaDublin South
    Deceased Age at Death50
    Returns Year1870
    Returns Quarter3
    Returns Volume No12
    Returns Page No452

    If you follow this link below you can get a copy, this will give more details. sorry but you would have to pay.
    Irish Genealogy

    Margot

    Margot

    Wednesday 13th Oct 2021, 09:50AM
  • Thanks Margot.  I'll purchase that document.  I can learn something from it.

    Jonathan's wife Lucy O'Halloran married Redmond Barrett, Dublin 1845.  Can't imagine Jonathan and Lucy divorcing.  Cork Examiner 2 July 1845, announced her marriage to Redmond and referred to "Lucy, relect of Jonathan Turner Houston Esq".  Could be another Jonathan Houston, but who knows what will turn up?

    Thank you for your help, I'm very grateful.

    The Ireland Reaching Out is just fantastic.

    gabriel gurney

    Thursday 14th Oct 2021, 06:50AM
  • In my haste the supposed date of death was from 1835 - 1845.  Last child I'm aware of died 1835 and then she married 2nd time 1845.

    Thanks Margot. 

    gabriel gurney

    Friday 15th Oct 2021, 01:32AM
  • Oh ok, Deaths are not officially listed until 1864. Some Parish books do have them but not that many.
    Do you know where they lived in Dublin?
    You would have to search the Graveyards in the area.
    Sorry I have searched other siteswithout any results.
    Margot

    Margot

    Friday 15th Oct 2021, 10:00AM
  • Margot

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    gabriel gurney

    Saturday 16th Oct 2021, 12:16AM
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    Hello Gabriel,

    To add to the information that Margo kindly provided…

    The Round Church you are referring to I believe is St. Andrew’s Church of Ireland, which is located in St. Andrew’s Street, Dublin City. It is no longer open for worship.

    Trinity Street T-junctions into St. Andrew’s Street as you can see in this Google Map View: https://is.gd/UPJkkM

    Here is a Google Street View showing the location of the church building in St. Andrew’s Street to the right. To the left in the view is Trinity Street: https://is.gd/z5si1V

    The church from Church Lane: https://is.gd/KqMY7S

    A Wikipedia article mentions that a former church in St. Andrew’s Street was called the “Round Church,” and was constructed in 1793, but burnt down in 1860, after which time the present structure was built.

    The Wikipedia article also mentions the cemetery:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Andrew%27s_Church,_Dublin_(Church_of_I…

    According to information from the ireland.anglican.org website’s, “The List of Church of Ireland Parish Registers,” baptisms for St. Andrew’s are available from 1877 to 1989, and marriages from 1845 to 1985. No burial or death registers are available. The list also shows that earlier records for St. Andrew’s were destroyed in the Four Courts Fire in Dublin during the Irish Civil War in 1922, but that the RCB (Representative Church Body) in Dublin has printouts of baptisms for St. Andrew’s from 1694 to 1803. These printouts are copies from a manuscript held by the Trinity College Dublin (TCD) Library.

    See the attachment for St. Andrew’s parish registers from the Ireland.anglican.org website.

    For more about the Representative Church Body, go to:
    https://www.ireland.anglican.org/about/about-us and https://www.ireland.anglican.org/about/genealogy

    Also attached to this reply is an Ordnance Survey Map of St. Andrew’s Street and Trinity Street. The map is from the 1837 to 1842 time period, and shows the “Round Church” in St. Stephen’s Street. Abbey Street is indicated by the red tear-drop marker on the map. You’ll see Trinity College nearby. The map is from the GeoHive website.

    Another Ordnance Survey Map from the 1888 to 1913 time period shows St. Andrew’s Church which was constructed after the Round Church burned down. This map also shows the location of Trinity Street, as well as Suffolk Street on the eastern side of the church. The map is from GeoHive.

    For a comprehensive description of the architecture of St. Andrew’s Church, and a slide presentation of the exterior of the church, go to the National Inventory of Architectural Heritage/Buildings of Ireland website link at: https://is.gd/e2AiI8

    A Google Satellite View of St. Andrew’s Church does not show an extensive cemetery. For the satellite view go to: https://is.gd/7ZW1c9

    There are only four submissions for people interred in St. Andrew’s cemetery at the Find A Grave website. There may be more people buried there whose information has not been submitted to Find A Grave. See: https://is.gd/bYTUur

    Also see another link at Find A Grave, which mirrors the Wikipedia article: https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/2664027/st-andrew's-church

    Margo had mentioned the marriage of Turner Houston and Lucy O’Haloran in 1825. This marriage, I believe, refers to your Turner Houston.

    The marriage took place in St. Peter’s Church of Ireland (COI) in Dublin on 14 June 1825. A transcription of the marriage was found at the free irishgenealogy.ie website’s Church Records collection.

    The transcription shows that Lucy’s parish church was St. Peter’s, which makes sense, as Irish marriages were/are traditionally held in the bride’s parish. But the marriage transcription also shows that Turner Houston’s parish was St. Anne’s.

    Turner Houston’s occupation is recorded as, “Gentleman.” No occupation is recorded for Lucy.

    The witnesses to the marriage were Nathaniel Gore and James Sloane. A copy of the original St. Peter’s marriage record has not been imaged, unfortunately. See the attachment of the marriage transcription with this reply.

    I also found the “Dublin, Ireland, Probate Record and Marriage License Index, 1270-1858,” for Turner and Lucy. This comes from the subscription Ancestry.com and is attached to this reply.

    According to a book by Brian Mitchell called, “A Guide To Irish Parish Registers,” there were two Church of Ireland parishes in Dublin named St. Peter’s. One was St. Peter’s and St. Keven, and the other St. Peter, Rathmines.

    The transcription from irishgenealogy.ie does not specify which St. Peter’s Church of Ireland parish the marriage took place in.

    Back at the irishgenealogy.ie website’s Church Records collection, I uncovered the baptisms for three children of Turner Houston and Lucy.

    The baptisms all took place in St. Andrew’s Church. I did a double take however, when I saw the denomination of the church where the baptisms occurred. The transcriptions show it was St. Andrew’s R.C. Church, Dublin, that is, Roman Catholic Church, not the aforementioned St. Andrew’s Church of Ireland in St. Andrew’s Street.

    Either Turner or Lucy may have been Catholic at the time of the marriage. I suspect Lucy was the Catholic, and wanted to raise their children to be brought up in the Catholic faith.

    The names and years of baptisms of the Houston children are:

    Joseph Houston, 1831
    Patrick CS Houston, 1832
    Mary Margaret Houston, 1836
    ____

    You’ll notice there are no baptism transcriptions for children of Turner Houston and Lucy O’Haloran between the year of their marriage in 1825, and the year 1831. I’m not sure why.

    The baptism transcriptions from irishgenealogy.ie are attached to this reply.

    The transcription for Joseph does not give a day or month in 1831 for the baptism. You’ll see a question mark ? after the father Turner’s first name, indicating that the person who transcribed the baptism for irishgenealogy.ie, (likely from a copy of the original), wasn’t sure if the first name of the father was Turner.

    Also, the baptism transcription for Joseph does not record his mother Lucy’s maiden name, but does shows his “Sponsors,” meaning godparents, are Edward Stanley and Mary Connolly.

    Lucy’s maiden name is likely not recorded in a copy of the original St. Andrew’s Catholic baptism record for Joseph.

    Concerning Patrick CS Houston, no day or month of his baptism is found in the St. Andrew’s transcription. His mother Lucy’s maiden name isn’t recorded either.

    His godparents are Nehemias ? Sands and Mary Coulter. See the transcription.

    There is no day or month in 1836 for Mary Margaret Houston’s baptism. Her mother Lucy’s maiden name is not recorded. Only one godparent is recorded. He would be Mary Margaret’s godfather, Wm (William) Fitzsimon.

    During the years the three Houston children were baptized, St. Andrew’s Catholic Church was in Townsend Street Dublin, but later a new St. Andrew’s was constructed in Westland Row, Dublin, where it remains today. The church in Westland Row didn’t open until 1842, and so the Houston children may have been baptized in the old church in Townsend Street. For mor information about St. Andrew’s Church, go to the church website link at: https://www.standrews.ie/parish/about/

    The home page for the church can be found at: https://www.standrews.ie/parish/

    For exterior and interior photos of the church go to the archiseek.com website link at: https://www.archiseek.com/2010/1843-st-andrews-church-westland-row-dubl…

    The attached Ordnance Survey Map of Dublin from the 1837 to 1842 time period shows the location of the “R,C, Chapel” in Westland Row, indicated by the red tear-drop marker. The map is from GeoHive.

    Knowing that the three Houston children were baptized in the Catholic Church, rather than a Church of Ireland parish, placed a new light on finding copies of their original St. Andrew’s Catholic Church baptisms.

    The National Library of Ireland, in Kildare Street, Dublin, has digitized baptisms, marriages, and available burial/death records for many Catholic parishes in the 32 counties of Ireland. Most of the registers are for the 19th century, but some Catholic registers go back to the 18th and even 17th centuries.

    St. Andrew’s is one of the Dublin Catholic parishes that has registers from the 18th century available to access for free at the National Library of Ireland website.

    St. Andrew’s Catholic baptisms and marriages commence on 1 January 1741, about 100 years before the new church was built in Westland Row. See
    https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0493

    Based on the baptism transcriptions from the irishgenealogy.ie website, I found copies of the original St. Andrew’s baptism records for Joseph, Patrick, and Mary Houston.

    The copy of the original baptism for Joseph Houston shows he was baptized on 2 February 1831. His baptism record is attached, and is the 4th entry down from the top of the page, after the baptism of Elizabeth Gahan.

    Patrick C.S. Houston was baptized on 27 March 1832. His baptism is the 4th one down from the top of the transcription.

    Mary Margaret Houston was baptized on 6 May 1836. Her baptism is the 2nd entry down from the top of the attachment.

    Once you open the three baptism attachments, you’ll be able to enlarge them to see them more closely.

    Margo had mentioned finding information about Turner Houston being a confectioner living in Hawkins Steet. I found Turner Houston recorded in a Dublin directory for 1836. He is employed as a confectioner whose residence was 1 Hawkins Street. This comes from an ancestry.com collection, “Ireland, City and Regional Directories, 1836-1947.” The directory listing is attached.

    Turner Houston was recorded in the directory the same year his daughter Mary Margaret was baptized in the St. Andrew’s Catholic Church, Westland Row.

    A Google Map shows that Hawkins Street, just south of the River Liffey, is an 8 minute walk to St. Andrew’s Catholic Church in Westland Row: https://is.gd/S5dJiQ

    For a Google Street View of Hawkins Street, see: https://is.gd/RnSOWF

    Concerning St. Andrew’s Catholic Church, I could not find any information about a Catholic cemetery attached to the church, Westland Row. A Google satellite image of St. Andrew’s Catholic Church does not show an area around the church where a large cemetery would be situated: https://is.gd/qCTGXr

    The civil registration death index for Jonathan Houston that Margo uncovered at irishgenealogy.ie’s “Civil Records” collection, would not be the Turner Houston who married Lucy O’Haloran in 1825.

    The index shows that Jonathan’s death was recorded in the Dublin South Registration District in the 3rd quarter of 1870. At the time of death Jonathan was 50 years old. The full death record can be found in Volume 12, Page 452 of the General Register Office (GRO) death records.

    The full death record will provide the date and place of death, and aside from Jonathan’s age, gender, and marital status, will also provide his occupation, the cause of death, and the name of the person who was present at the death and who reported the death to the Dublin South district registrar. The death record will not tell you where Jonathan was buried.

    At 50 years old in 1870 Jonathan would have been born in 1820. Turner Houston and Lucy O’Haloran were married in 1825 when Jonathan would have been only 5 years old. Even if Jonathan’s age was short by a few years, he still would not have been old enough to marry in 1825.

    If interested you can order the full death record from the General Register Office (GRO) in Ireland.

    You can download the form to order his death record electronically from the GRO. Copies of birth, marriage, and death records are 5 Euros, but you will be billed for the cost. You won’t have to provide credit card information with the application form, which can be downloaded from: https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/images/content/www.genealogy.ie_form.pdf

    On the application form make sure you include the Registration District where the death was recorded (Dublin South) and the Volume (12). You can also include the Page Number (452).

    CIVIL REGISTRATION RECORDS

    Civil registration began in Ireland in Ireland on 1 April 1845. At this time however, only Protestant marriages, as well as civil marriages were recorded by the government.

    Civil registration of births, marriages and deaths for all religious denominations in Ireland began in 1 January 1864. Today, copies of original births, marriages, and deaths can be accessed for free at the irishgenealogy.ie website’s Civil Records collection. Copies of original birth records are available at the site from 1864 to 1921. Marriages are available from 1845 to 1945. Copies of original death records at this time are only available from 1871 to 1970. Before 1870, only death indexes, like the one for Jonathan Turner who died in 1870, are available. Irishgenealogy.ie plans to have copies of the original death records from 1864 to 1870 placed online sometime in the future.

    CEMETERY RECORDS

    At this point in the research I went to the Dublin Cemeteries Trust website links at:

    https://www.dctrust.ie/
    https://www.dctrust.ie/genealogy/about-the-archive.html
    https://www.dctrust.ie/genealogy/how-it-works.html

    At this website you can search for the burials of five Dublin cemeteries, two of which were founded in the 19th century. These two cemeteries are Glasnevin and Goldenbridge, both founded by the “Liberator,” Daniel O’Connell.

    You can search for indexes of burials at the website for free, but have to purchase credits to obtain more information about a person’s burial through a Standard Search or the more expensive Extended Search.

    I found the burial index for Jonathan Houston, showing he had died in 1870 and that he is buried in the Glasnevin Cemetery, Dublin. You can access the index at:
    https://is.gd/v7Yfy5

    If you purchase credits for an Extended Search, you’ll be able to find out who else is buried with Jonathan Houston in Glasnevin.

    At the Dublin Cemetery Trust website I also looked for the burials of Turner and Lucy Houston, but didn’t find them. I’ll have more about Lucy and ordering burial records from the Dublin Cemeteries Trust, toward the end of this reply.

    I read your reply to Margo, where you mentioned that Lucy Houston had married Redmond Barrett in Dublin in 1845. I found a transcription of their marriage linked to a copy of their original marriage record at irishgenealogy.ie’s Church Records collection. Redmond and Lucy were married in the St. Nicholas Catholic Church, Dublin on 12 June 1845.

    The person who transcribed the marriage from a copy of the original thought that Lucy’s last name was “Hanston,” instead of Houston. First names in the marriage record are from the Latin. For instance, Redmond is “Redmundus.” Lucy is “Lucia.” The priest who married the couple was M Farrington. The witnesses to the marriage were Gulielmo Redmundo Barrett and Eleonora Kelly. Gulielmo is the Latin for William.

    A copy of the original St. Nicholas marriage record is attached to this reply. The marriage is the 4th entry down from the top of the register page. I had to enlarge it enough for it to readable, but because of the handwriting, it could still be difficult to make out. You’ll be able to see why the transcriber for irishgenealogy.ie may have thought that Lucy’s last name was Hanston, instead of Houston. As you’ll see a portion of the last name of the priest M. Farrington who married Redmond and Lucy is cut off in the transcription.

    The full name of the parish church where they married was St. Nicholas of Myra Without. The Dublin Civil Parish where the church was located was also called St. Nicholas Without, but there was also a Civil Parish named St. Nicholas Within.

    The “Without” designation means the church used to be located outside the old Dublin City walls.

    St. Nicholas of Myra Without is located in Francis Street, Dublin, and is still open for worship.

    According to a Wikipedia article, the present day structure was opened in 1834, 11 years before Redmond and Lucy were married there. Go to Wikipedia for more information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_St_Nicholas_of_Myra_Without,_(R…

    More details about the history of St. Nicholas of Myra in Francis Street can be found at the church website at: https://www.francisstreetparish.ie/history_myra.html

    For a Google Map of St. Nicholas of Myra Catholic Church go to: https://is.gd/OOg1W4

    For a Google Street View of the church see: https://is.gd/HnCpU2

    Lucy was married 9 years after the baptism of her daughter, Mary Margaret Houston was baptized in 1836. This means that her first husband Turner Houston would have died between 1836 and 1845.

    You had mentioned that the marriage of Redmond and Lucy was recorded in the Cork Examiner, which referred to Lucy as the “relict” of Jonathan Turner Houston Esq. The word relict in this instance, and also on some gravestones, means the wife of the deceased did not remarry. In this instance Lucy did not remarry until her marriage with Redmond Barrett in 1845. See the gravemistakesblogspot.com link at: http://grave-mistakes.blogspot.com/2014/01/a-widow-vs-relict.html

    I now wanted to see if Redmond and Lucy had any children, though I suspect by 1845 Lucy would have been in her late 30s or perhaps early 40s. I located the baptism transcription at irishgenealogy.ie’s Church Records for Redmond Barrett, son of Redmond Barrett and Lucy. Redmond was baptized in St. Andrew’s Catholic Church in 1847. The sponsors or godparents were John Rose Byrne and Eleanor Kelly. The baptism transcription is attached to this reply.

    I found Redmond’s baptism record at the National Library of Ireland’s website for the Catholic Parish of St. Andrew’s. Redmond was baptized on 26 April 1847. His original baptism record is attached to this reply, and is the 4th baptism down from the top of the page.

    In a post to Ireland Reaching Out dated Wednesday, 21 January 2005, you had mentioned that Lewis O’Halloran was Lucy’s father, and that Lucy was born in 1806. You also mentioned that Lucy died in 1889.

    With this information I looked for Lucy’s baptism at the irishgenealogy.ie website and found the transcription, which shows that Lucinda O Hallaran was baptized in the St. Michael’s and St. John’s Catholic Church, Dublin, on 17 May 1804. Her father is Lewis and her mother is Mary Duffy. The godparents are John Miller and Anne Donivan.

    Instead of attaching the baptism transcription to this reply I went right to the National Library of Ireland website to locate Lucinda’s baptism record in the St. Michael’s and St. John’s Catholic registers.

    The baptism register entry for Lucinda is attached to this reply. Her baptism is the 5th entry down from the top of the page.

    I next located the marriage transcription for Lewis O’Halloran and Mary Duffy at the irishgenealogy.ie website, showing they were married in the St. Michael’s and St. John’s Catholic Church on 7 November 1803.

    A copy of their original marriage record is attached to this reply. It is the 5th entry down from the top of the register page.

    Lucy was born in May 1804, just 6 months after her parents were married, which is an indication that Lewis and Mary had married when they did so that their daughter would not be born out of wedlock.

    I next found a transcription of Lucy Barret’s death at irishgenealogy.ie’s Civil Records collection. I don't know why there isn't a copy of her original death record at irishgenealogy.ie, as her death took place after 1870, on 1 August 1889. At the time of death she is recorded as being an 80 year old widow. The address where she died was 1 Ontario Terrace in Dublin. The cause of death was, “Senile Fever. Some Months. Exhaustion. Some Days.”

    The person who was present at Lucy’s death and who reported the death to the district registrar was Ellen Murray, of 1 Ontario Terrace. The transcription doesn’t say if Ellen was related to Lucy, but she may have been Lucy’s daughter, or another relative, or a caretaker.

    Lucy’s death was recorded in the Rathmines, Dublin South Registration District on 12/08/1889, by the registrar, Rich Tho Hearn.

    See the transcription below:

    SR District/Reg Area - Dublin South
    Death of Lucy Barrett in 1889

    Name Lucy Barrett
    Date of Death 01 August 1889
    Age at Death 80
    Sex Female
    Civil Status Widowed
    Place of Death 1 Ontario Terrace
    Cause of Death Senile Fever. Some Months
    Antecedent Cause 1 Exhaustion. Some Days
    Deceased Occupation Widow of Gentleman
    Informant Forename Ellen
    Surname Murray
    Qualification Person Present at Death
    Address 1 Ontario Terrace
    Signature Ellen Murray

    Other Information
    Group Registration ID 3185498
    Registrar Rich Thos Hearn
    Registration District/Office Rathmines
    Registration SR District/Reg Area Dublin South
    Registration County Co. Dublin
    Date of Registration 12/08/1889
    ____

    You will have to order the full death record from the aforementioned GRO.

    Elizabeth’s age of 80 years old at the time of death in 1889 means she would have been born in 1809. However, her baptism record shows she was born on 17 May 1804. In August of 1889 she would have been 85 years old. You cannot always trust the accuracy in death records, or other records, such as a person’s age in census enumerations and burial records.

    Also at the Civil Records collection I uncovered the death transcription for Redmond Barrett, who died in 1865. No month or day of death is found in the transcription. At the time of death he was 66 years old. His death was recorded in the Dublin South Registration District for the 1st quarter of 1866, and can be found in Volume 2, Page 732 of the GRO death registers:

    SR District/Reg Area - Dublin South
    Death of REDMOND BARRETT in 1865

    Name REDMOND BARRETT
    Date of Death 1865
    Group Registration ID N/R
    SR District/Reg Area Dublin South
    Deceased Age at Death 66
    Returns Year 1865
    Returns Quarter 1
    Returns Volume No 2
    Returns Page No 732
    ____

    Redmond’s full death record will also have to be ordered from the GRO.

    Earlier I had mentioned the Dublin Cemetery Trust website. I went back to this website to see of I could find the burial indexes for Redmond and Lucy Barrett.

    The search was successful for both Redmond and Lucy, who are buried in Glasnevin Cemetery, Dublin.

    The index for Redmond shows he was 66 at the time of death in 1865. His address at the time of death was Rathmines, Dublin. See the index at: https://is.gd/rV3yFK

    The Dublin Cemetery Trust burial index for Lucy Barrett gives her age at death in 1889 as 70. She would have been 15 years older. Her address is just listed as Dublin, but we know from the transcription seen earlier, that she died in Rathmines, where Redmond had also died. The burial index for Lucy ca be accessed at: https://is.gd/LmzuWH

    I also came across the Dublin Cemetery Trust burial index for a Mary Houston who died in 1840 at the age of 4. This may refer to the burial for Turner and Lucy Houston’s daughter, Mary Margaret Houston who was baptized in St. Andrew’s Catholic Church in1836. See the burial index at: https://is.gd/zTNvFW

    For more information about purchasing Standard and Extended Search credits to obtain the full burial records at the Dublin Cemetery Trust, go to the link at: https://www.dctrust.ie/q/GEN0001

    Also see: https://www.dctrust.ie/genealogy/how-it-works.html

    You may want to consider exploring the Dublin Cemetery Trust website to see if you can find any other burials for people in your direct and collateral lines of descent.

    CONCLUSION

    I didn’t find any evidence that St. Andrew’s Church of Ireland, the “Round Church,” was Jonathan Turner Houston’s parish church. That doesn’t mean that at some point he and his family were not communicants there. There is always the possibility that I missed finding records of his belonging to St. Andrew’s Church of Ireland in Dublin when he was younger.

    Based of the baptism records for Tuner and Lucy Houston’s children however, St. Andrew’s Catholic Church in Westland Row, Dublin, is associated with the family. It’s possible that information you uncovered in your research pertains to the St. Andrew’s Catholic Church, rather than the Church of Ireland by the same name.

    With Best Wishes Gabriel,

    Dave Boylan

    SOURCES

    Reply to Gabriel from Ireland Reaching Out volunteer Margo
    Google Maps
    Google Street Views
    Wikipedia
    ireland.anglican.org
    Representative Church Body, Dublin
    Trinity College Library Dublin
    Ordnance Survey Maps
    GeoHive
    National Inventory of Architectural Heritage/Buildings of Ireland
    Google Satellite Images
    Find A Grave
    irishgenealogy.ie
    Ancestry.com: Dublin, Ireland, Probate Record and Marriage License Index, 1270-1858
    Mitchell, Brian, A Guide To Irish Parish Registers
    St. Andrew’s Catholic Church, Dublin website: https://www.standrews.ie/parish/about/ and https://www.standrews.ie/parish/
    archiseek.com
    National Library of Ireland
    Ancnestry.com: Ireland, City and Regional Directories, 1836-1947
    General Register Office (GRO)
    Dublin Cemeteries Trust
    St. Nicholas of Myra Church website: https://www.francisstreetparish.ie/history_myra.html
    Cork Examiner
    gravemistakesblogspot.com
    Ireland Reaching Out

    davepat

    Saturday 16th Oct 2021, 08:04AM
  • Dave Boylan, you have gone to a great deal of trouble and I am thoroughly amazed and grateful.  THANK YOU.

    The information will keep me occupied for months.  THANK YOU TO YOU AND MARGOT.

     

    gabriel gurney

    Saturday 16th Oct 2021, 09:42PM
  • You're welcome Gabriel, and many thanks for your reply. It is very much appreciated.

    With Kind Regards,

    Dave

    davepat

    Sunday 17th Oct 2021, 03:09AM
  • Dave

    You very generously helped me in the past.  I'm 74 and could be over this family research lark.  I can't make head nor tail of the Web site.  I thought I sent it a month ago but it doesn't seem to have been successful.  Please could you forward the following on to Ireland Reaching Out Limerick.

    My name is Gabriel known as Gaye, I'm from north of Sydney, Australia.

    I would be very grateful if you could give me any information re

    1. Lewis O'Halloran's parents & birth.

    2. Timothy O'Halloran's, parents & birth

    Timothy married Margaret Fitzgerald, 24 August 1827, St John's Limerick.

    I have a DNA match to Timothy, but I don't know how I'm distantly related to him.

     

    Lewis O'Halloran (Roman Catholic)

    Born no details

    1803 7th November, married Mary Duffy, St Michael & St John Dublin

    1804 May, daughter Lucy, Bapt. St Michael & St John Dublin. My G. G. Grandmother

    1805 6 August, son Lewis, Bapt. St Michael & St John mother Mary Neill

    1825 June, Lucy O'H married Jonathan Turner Houston, St Peter Dublin

    1845 June, Lucy O'H Houston, married Redmond Barrett, St Nicholas of Myra Without.

    The Cork Examiner 2 July 1845

    “June 12, Redmond Barrett Esq, of Lower Mount Street Dublin, to Lucy, relect of

    Jonathan Turner Houston Esq, daughter of the

    late Lewis O'Halloran Esq of Limerick and

    Grand Niece of General Sir Joseph O'Halloran and of

    Dr. O'Halloran, author of “History of Ireland”.

     

    Dr Sylvester O'Halloran 1728 - 1807, his son Joseph Clanfergal O'Halloran 1763 - 1843

    There is a problem with the details in this newspaper marriage notice.

     

    I can find no information linking Lewis to either Sylvester's or Joseph's or any O'Halloran family tree and I would be grateful to find that link.

     

    June 2022, hopefully, my husband Noel and I will be in Limerick for 3 days before joining a

    Globus Coach Tour of Ireland. I intend visiting if possible:

    Sylvester O'Halloran Bridge

    Merchants Quay

    Change Lane

    St Munchin's graveyard, Killeely

    Six Mile Bridge

    Can you suggest any other places of interest particularly related to my elusive O'Hallorans?

    Thank you to Ireland Reaching Out, the information and articles are always interesting and helpful.

    Thank you in anticipation. Gaye Gurney.

     

     

    gabriel gurney

    Thursday 5th May 2022, 05:13AM

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