Scariff as birthplace/baptismal place

Hi Barbara:

Thank you for your post to the Ireland Reaching Out message board.

Firsty, Scariff is the name of the Roman Catholic parish but it is part of both the civil parishes of Moynoe and part of Tomgraney (small corner).  

If the child that you referred to as being born in 1866 was located in the Scariff Regiwstration District, this district covers more than just the catholic parish of Scariff and the civil parishes of Moynoe and Tomgraney.  Where was the residence of the child born in 1866?  That will most likely be listed as a townland and its location will indicate what parish the child was born in.

You also refer to the parents being in Killaloe and there being connections with County Tipperary.  That would not be surprising as Killaloe was on the border of Tipperary even though it was part of County Clare and many families in that area would have links to both counties. 

The Scariff Workhouse was located at the edge of the village of Scariff and very closely to the civil parish boundary of Tomgraney.  As was the case in the villages, there was often very rudimentary huts constructed by families who were evicted, and a kind of shantytown existed throughout these small villages at the edge of town.  Many rural people often moved closer to the village looking for any kind of work if they did not have any land to farm.  As people were so self-sufficient, having a small patch of land, allowed for a garden and food for the family.  If a family had no garden whatsoever, they would have to move closer to an area where there might be some work for family members who were able to do so.  

I believe that Mike Mac may have replied to your earlier queries and I will copy this post to him for further reference.  

If you were unable to find a baptism reference in Ogonneloe, it might be worth looking at adjacent parishes:  Moynoe, Tomgraney/Kilnoe, Killaloe.  There are a number of gaps in the registers and many of them are very difficult to read.  

Finally, Col Windham owned a lot of land throughout East Clare and owned a large portion of land in Tulla where he moved 200 families out of a townland to Canada just before the Famine.  He also had significant lands in the Killaloe area,and it may be that the Storan family worked for him on one of his estates and they may have been moved from one farm to another, or have been evicted.  His descendant, Lord Egremont was in Clare several years ago and met with a group of local historians (including myself).  His family has preserved a lot of the estate papers through the Petworth Collection which is available to visit in the U.K.  

If you need further help, please let us know.  

Kind regards,

Jane

Thank you. That information was helpful. It’s good to have context and background.

I have found an explanation of the hierarchy of various civil and religious jurisdictions to try and understand the citation information. 

One question, though. When you see a location, for example, what I have for my great-grandmother is Annacarriga, Clare, Ireland. And one version also included Scariff after Annacarriga. 

For her siblings, it is Temple Kelly, Ballina, Tipperary, Ireland. I have these as presented to me from Ancestry or FindMyPast  in an order that I expect follows a standard for citations.

Is there a naming pattern that identifies if it is civil or religious? One of the responses suggested that Ogonelloe was the religious parish (if I understood that correctly). I am not sure how I would have gotten to Ogonelloe without someone pointing it out. 

Do I just keep the placenames list handy? Thanks.