Death Certificate of William Closs: he died 19 October 1890 in , widower of Mary Donaldson, born 1830 in Ireland to John Closs (labourer, deceased) and Jane (deceased, maiden name illegible).
He is listed in the Scotland censuses of 1851-1881 in New Monkland and then Bathgate.
In 1851 William is 19, living in New Monkland with his brothers James (170 and Alexander (14), all coal miners, all born in Ireland, in the Nicol house.
William's father John Closs was born 1794 in Lreland to Thomas Closs (farmer) and Jane Hutton. He died 1871 in Lanarkshire Scotland.
William and Mary Donaldson were married 7 Jan 1854 acc. to the old parich record in New Monkland. They had John J (my 2nd great grandfather), Isabella, James, Margaret, William, Mary, Thomas and Jeanine from 1855-1873. The family is listed in the Scotland censuses 1861-1881
Mary Anne Donaldon was born 1836 in Ireland. (I found a Mary Anne Donaldson baptized 2 Nov 1836 in Clones, Monaghan, but have no further eveidence that this is "my" Mary)
Death Certificate of Mary Anne Donaldson: She died of "natural causes" 9 March 1880 in Armadale, married to Wm. Close, born to Thomas Donaldson (miner, deceased) and Mary Nesbit (deceased).
Religion: Protestant? William and Mary Anne's marriage is recorded in the old Parish records of Airdrie/New Monkland. Their son John J Close married Eliabeth McClay in the United Presbyterian Church of Avonbridge, Scotland.
Can anyone help me locate these families in Ireland?
Friday 28th Dec 2012, 03:37PM
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Hi,
Thank you for our message. You obviously have done alot of work on your family history!
It may be difficult to locate these families without knowing a more specific area of Ulster that they came from. Do you have any documentation that mentions any placenames in Ulster? Have you looked at the baptism cert for Mary? Did her parent's names match also?
The family names seem to vary also, so this will make your search a bot more difficult aswell.
Perhaps you could try contacting the Ulster Historical Foundation for help, however they may charge a fee for their services. Here are their contact details:
Ulster Historical Foundation,
49 Malone Road,
Belfast BT9 6RY,
Northern Ireland.
Phone: +44 (0) 9066 1988 Email: enquiry@uhf.org.uk
I hope that this helps.
Kind regards,
Genealogy Support
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Hi once again.
I have come across another message on the Ahoghill, Co. Antrim page. This message is also asking about Closs ancestors in Northern Ireland
The anscestor being researched is John Edward Closs, born 1778. He emigrated to Canada. Do you know if any members of your Closs family emigrated to Canada or was it just Scotland?
It may be a longshot that this John Edward is related to your family, but I thought I would give you the link to the message anyways.
http://www.irelandxo.com/group/ahoghill-antrim/messages/information-john-edward-closs
Kind regards,
Genealogy Support
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I do not have the original baptism certificate, just a record from both Ancestry and Family Search. Her parents names match, as does the birth year, but honestly, how many Mary Annes were born to a Thomas and Mary Donoldson in Ireland in 1836? Aren't those very common names?
I do not have any Irish information or Irish documents at all from these folks who came from Ireland to Scotland. In fact, until I researched this part of my tree last year, and found actual proof in the forms of birth, death and marriage certificates, I didn't even know that anyone in my family was FROM Ireland.
I was afraid to tell this to my mother, who was so proud of her Scottish heritage, but then I did. Her reaction was delight: "I knew there was a reason I've always loved St. PAtrick's Day" she said.
However, now I am stuck with eight lines of great grandparents who immigrated from Ireland to Scotland in the mid 1800s and I have absolutely no idea of their Irish origins.
The other lines are Peffer/McGee/Rae/Matson, all born 1800-1815, all moved to the Lanarkshire area of Scotland in the 1830-1840 time frame, all miners, all Protestant. I'll put a post out for these folks, as well.
Thank you for your help!
Rebecca Lynch
USA