Setting up Townlands

Hi Steve:

I have done something similar to what you have done.  However, I did not upload the Griffith's Valuation pages, as it is listed through our web page under the Clare County Library web site.

I also did not put in the 1911 census, but I think that that is a good idea.  I will put in the link.

My townland list includes name & meaning where known, acreage, distance from town, any monuments in the townland, names listed from Griffith's Valuation and 1901 Census.

One important thing that I did (maybe only important to Tulla) is list the Electoral Division that the townland is located in.

This came about through queries from a person who couldn't find the townland in the 1911 Census index due to the fact that it falls under the Electoral Division  as opposed to townland. 

Take a look at my page and tell me what you think.

Unfortunately, I'm not an expert at Google maps yet, but I hope to be able to put the location on Google Maps as you have done!

Jane.

I like the lists of surnames. While I have this information in the Griffith's Valuation, it does not show up as text. The text list will work better with search engines. Perhaps, over time, I'll do the same.

In some cases placing the place name in the google maps fields. Other times, it is not so simple. With some I had to find the townlands on ordinance maps, then go to Google Earth to find corresponding landmarks, find the latitude and longitude to enter into the map.

I'd like to be able to find the placename origins and landmarks for my townlands. Any suggestions? I'm doing this from the US and don't have that local knowledge.

Steve

Evening,

You may already know these sites but just in case - very useful on placenames and townlands:

1. Placenames Database of Ireland - Placenames Commission: http://www.logainm.ie/
2. IreAtlas Townland data base (1851 Townlands Index): http://www.seanruad.com/
3. Irish Times Ancestor area: http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/
4. Townlands for the civil parish of Duagh: http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/fuses/townlands/index.cfm?fuseaction=TownlandsInCivil&civilparishid=1117&civilparish=Duagh&citycounty=Kerry

regards

Dolores

Hi Dolores?

I have seen them in passing, but I need to bookmark them!

Thank you!

Steve

Hi Steve,

Townland names evolved over time and even between 1901 & 1911 some misspellings are found.  In Tithe's Applotment books you can see that townland names were created from the grouping of several townlands and can see the actual townland names found in the notes.  Even names in the Civil Registration can be unique but were the names in use by the occupants.  See Lackarunoe for instance in Co Clare Tithe's which is a grouping of at least 8 townlands if I remember correctly. 

I have been working on a cross reference lists for east county Clare but never seem to finish and sometimes have a hard time to determine which ones correspond.  When you go back far enough, some variants are striking:

- TEAKILL-FEAKLE-FEIKLE

- SKARIFE-SCARRIFF-SCARIFF

and my favorite ones from my own ancestry:

- CLOUTHA-CLONTE-CLONTY-CLOONTYCONNAUGHT-CLOUNTY

- LAKAROE-LACCAROE LOWER-LECARROW LOWER-LACARROW LOWER 

Yes, some are just misspellings but none the less, such a list would be invaluable just to know you are checking the right placename in each record group.

Some other townlands have disappeared and only thanks to the locals in Ireland can we know where it was near and that it is gone.

Jane, DEDs are important when using the filmed census records as that is the basic organized by district.  However, with the ability to search the records online, that becomes less of a need.  I still llike to keep track of the DEDs though.

Best,
James

Steve,

I forgot to say that the GRO Phamplets of 1885 townlands by PLU is a great tool as well.  For your area of interest you end up with a short 2 to 4 page list of all the townlands, sub-grouped by parish.  George B Handran first published this and it is now available on CD from Archive CD Books Ireland.