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I realize this may be an insanely dumb question, but it has been driving me crazy. 

Looking on Wikipedia and other sources I see it labeled as being Church of Ireland, operating out of the North Transept of St. Patrick's cathedral, etc.  BUT- all the baptism/marriage/death records I can find are within the Catholic Parish Registries collection (  

Has anyone else gotten stuck in this loop,or have a clear answer?  


James E

Monday 4th Jan 2021, 10:35PM

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  • From Wikipedia...
    "The Church of St Nicholas of Myra (Without) is a Roman Catholic church on Francis Street, Dublin that is still in use today. The site has been used as a place of worship as far back as the 12th century. The current church was built in 1829 and dedicated to Saint Nicholas in 1835."
    I hope this helps!


    Monday 4th Jan 2021, 10:47PM
  • James:

    I asked our Dublin expert about your question and here is his response:

    like many other parishes and churches in Ireland, not just in Dublin city (St. Andrew, St. Michan, St. Audeon, St. Mary, St. Paul. etc), there's one of each covering similar areas - one Church of Ireland and another Roman Catholic. The 'Without' designation refers to outside the old city walls, there was a separate Church of Ireland parish, civil parish and church 'within' inside the walls on Nicholas Street, in addition to the Church of Ireland parish union of St. Nicholas Without and St. Luke which used part of St. Patrick's Cathedral as it's parish Church.


    The Without/Within designation is not usually used for the corresponding Catholic parish - these are based on the underlying civil parishes - the within section was split between the Catholic parishes of SS. Michael & John and St. Nicholas of Myra and the without portion roughly corresponded to the Catholic parish of St. Nicholas of Myra. The Catholic church and parish is generally referred to by Dubliners as 'Francis Street'.


    Roger McDonnell

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Tuesday 5th Jan 2021, 04:37PM

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