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 I  would like to know something about where my great grandfather, Thomas Cochrane, was born and something of his birth family. I know very little and I wondered if there is anyone who might know something of a family named Cochrane in KIlkenny. I am not even sure where he was born. I do know that he was married in Castlecomer in 1868.  

Here is a little of what I do know:

 

 

Thomas Cochrane, my great grandfather married my great grandmother, Anne Ryan (1839- 1877) in 1868 in Castlecomer. Anne was born in Castlecomer and she was the sister of Sir James J Ryan who became a famous railroad contractor in Philadelphia PA. 

 

 Anne's parents were Margaret Comerford (died in ~1853) and Laurence Ryan (died in ~1873). The Comerfords and the Ryans lived on Barrack Street in Castlecomer.

 

Anne and Thomas's 1868 Irish marriage record named 2 men, one was Laurence Ryan and the other was named Robert Cochrane. Laurence was Anne's father so I believe that Thomas’s father’s name was Robert Cochrane. Actually Anne and Thomas's  oldest child was Robert (1869- 1883), perhaps named after Thomas's father. 

I also know:

Thomas Cochrane and his wife Anne were Master and Mistress of the Castlecomer Workhouse. Anne died from childbirth (pre eclampsia) in 1877 at about 37 yo. Anne never came to America. Quite a while after his wife Anne died, Thomas came to America (specifically Philadelphia Pennsylvania) with his children Margaret Cochrane, Anna Cochrane, Laurence Cochrane, Ellen Cochrane Gillis (my grandmother) in about 1891. They stayed with James J Ryan (brother of THomas's late wife Anne Ryan Cochrane) and his wife Hannah Cusack Ryan. Thomas died and was buried in Philadelphia in 1895.

 

A few thoughts:

 

 I am wondering if there is some information about Thomas in some records from the Castlecomer Workhouse somewhere that might give me a hint as to when and where Thomas Cochrane was born, and who his parents and siblings were. I do not know if he was Master of the Workhouse before he and Anne married. Was the Master of the Workhouse normally a British subject or were they normally Irish?

 

I was also wondering where my great grandmother Anne Ryan Cochrane (died 1877) and her eldest child Robert Cochrane (died 1883) and other children who died might be buried and maybe knowing this might help me learn more about Thomas's family. I have done some investigation on the idea that Anne may be buried in the Workhouse graveyard but I learned that they only have the names of a very few of the many who were buried there.  The other thought is that she  (or her son) might be buried in the Castlecomer church graveyard. Is there a way you can find out if there is a Cochrane grave in the Castlecomer church yard?  

I did start to investigate a Cochrane family who came from Guernsey that met some of what I was looking for but was unable to confirm if this was his family.

 

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks!

Marge Gillis

Marge

Thursday 14th Sep 2017, 01:47PM

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  • Marge:

    Welcome to Ireland Reaching Out!

    Have you seen this site http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Castlecomer/  They suggest the main library in Kilkenny as a source and possibly the branch library in Castlecomer can assist you.  http://www.kilkenny.ie/kids_life_directory/community/library_service

    We now have an XO Chronicles site where you can add your ancestors stories. https://www.irelandxo.com/ireland-xo/history-and-genealogy/ancestor-dat…

    Roger McDonnell

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Thursday 14th Sep 2017, 06:21PM
  • We have a Thomas Cochrane, b. C. 1839. in Castlebar. Have you taken a DNA test on Ancestry or are you on Gedmatch, to see if there's a DNA match? Thank you.

    Maria

    Monday 20th Aug 2018, 01:13AM
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    I have seen the workhouses website and did not get much from them. I contacted the library at castlecomer via email and after a very long time (months) I got this response:

    Apologies for not getting back to you sooner. I have had a quick look at our local history stock. There is a reference to Master T Cochrane in 1874 regarding a raise in salary from £20 to £30 from the board of the Castlecomer Workhouse. There is also reference to a Nurse A Cochrane. It doesn’t state if they are husband and wife. These items are recorded in a Reference Only book called Castlecomer Connections by Tom Lyng which is no longer in print.  

    There are a number of local history reports on the workhouse but I need to check for copy write to see if I can scan in some pages to forward on to you.

     

    For general books on Irish workhouses you might try Kennys online bookshop. www.kennys.ie or O’Mahonys at www.omahonys.ie

     

    Regards the Workhouse Graveyard, I am not sure exactly what information is held on this but a good starting place would be the Ossory Diocese at www.ossory.ie

     

    I hope this is of some help and do let call into the library if you come to Castlecomer and we will show you the items we hold in our reference section.

     

    Regards

     

    Sophie

     

     

    Thomas Coogan Library,

    Kilkenny Street,

    Castlecomer,

    Co. Kilkenny

    castlecomer@kilkennylibrary.ie

    Tel: 056 4440561

    The bookstore websites were nice references but I am lookin for some very specific people and the books I reviewd I am not sure would contain what I was looking for. 

    After that I did email the diocese regarding the burial ground and got no response. 

     

    Regarding the other reply that a Thomas Cochrane b 1839 in Castlebar was found. Was  the father of this  Thoms Cochrane named Robert?

    I submitted a DNA test but not to Ancestry. I am awaiting the results.

    Thanks 

    Marge

    Marge

    Monday 20th Aug 2018, 08:23PM
  • I found the Thomas Cochrane b 1839 in Castlebar and his father is John Cochrane. I do not believe this is my great grandfather.

    Marge

    Monday 20th Aug 2018, 08:58PM

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